9 million, not 600 grand

HanD

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AbeBeta;2579208 said:
Are you seriously saying that our hit would be another 9 mill if we let TO go? If so, you need to stop whatever engineering work you are doing b/c you are a danger to society. Our hit is 9 mill IF we keep him and 9.6 if he isn't here.


I know, as an engineer, your short sleeve shirt and tie combo limits your ability to think about real world issues like this. But what those #s mean to most people is that you increase your cap hit a tiny bit by releasing the player.

just stop. obviously you aren't understanding what i'm typing. i said your cap is hit by an additional amount (YOU assumed that i meant something i didn't and then ran with it) bottom line....

we keep him 9 mil this year including his roster bonus.

we cut him before june, 9.6 mil on this year's cap. thus a 600k cap hit (600k more than if you had just kept him like i originally said and you did nothing but repeat).

we cut him after june, spread that cap hit over two season. done. it was you that didn't like the wording of cap hit and said it was a stupid way to look at it.

you were wrong in your assumption of my post and even went as far to say i'm bad at my job and don't understand the real world? wow. and for the record, instead of trying to make a personal attack, maybe you should read more carefully instead of understanding what you want to. and if you want to go the personal attack route...i'd be more than happy to....just don't assume that i'm some stereotype because i got a first rate education and a valuable degree. you'd be sadly mistaken...and wrong again.
 

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wileedog;2579056 said:
Whoa whoa whoa, lets be clear. I don't even remotely lay this all on TO.

I have been very consistent, if you read my posts, in that ultimately what I want is Wade and this horribly lax culture gone. My real problem with the team of NO ACCOUNTABILITY is that an ego like TO runs amok and just causes exponentially more damage.

Again, bring in a Shanny or a Schottenheimer and I reverse course on TO big time. Give me someone who sets the tone in the locker so that TO can't. Give me someone that will stand up to TO - and more importantly to Jerry - when they are telling the OC to get him the ball more to the detriment of the team.

You keep Wade in place, you keep Garrett castrated by his own GM/Owner, you keep the culture of players rule the roost here and TO stays, we will be here crying about all the same damn things this time next year. I guarantee it.

Rip out the circus atmosphere here and put a real football staff in place, I'm totally with you on that. And then find ways to sensibly utilize TO, not just Jerry telling Garrett to throw him the ball more.

Where do people get this idiotic idea that this occurs?

If Owens is really telling the OC (Garrett) to get him the ball to the detriment of the team, he's clearly NOT LISTENING. Owens is coming off a 69 catch season, over 16 full games...his lowest reception total since 2005, when he only played 7 games. If you throw that year out, it's his lowest total since 1999 (when he had 60 over 14 games).

Since 2000, throwing out the 2005 season, prior to this year, he averaged 87.6 catchers per season.

Just last year, he caught 81 balls (in only 14 1/2 games).

So if Owens HAS actually been doing this, then we have no way of knowing whether it would be "to the detriment of the team" or not, since the team underachieved badly this year and Owens was the least involved in the offense that he has been since he had to play with a Steve Stenstrom/Jeff Garcia platoon in 1999.

Perhaps doing a better job of "appeasing" Terrell Owens might serve the team well then, huh?

It certainly seemed to serve the team well in 2007.
 

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9m is pointless we don't spend all our cap $$$ anyways.

we don't need players we need coaches and a GM. double our cap limit and we'd have wasted the 2008 season anyways

WE HAD CAP $$$ FOR A LEGIT BACKUP QB

this highlights again how STUPID of a GM jerry is - sorry vela and any other shill for jerry - but nonetheless a MISTAKE the fans of jerruh's team will pay for :(

RoadRunner;2578752 said:
http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/011509dnspoarcher.3e7b74f.html


Owens would cost us 9 million on our cap if he is cut next year for an empty roster spot. The 600 thousand misleading figure that the cut TO people have thrown around is only the difference in his cap hit if he stays or goes.

If Ownes is cut, it will be 9 million dollars wasted on an empty roster spot. Jerry isn't getting out of the 9 million. It is NOT as if we have been lead to believe by some on here that cutting TO will only mean 600 grand cap hit. It will mean 600 grand more on top of the nearly 9 million he is getting. you cut TO and you still have to pay that money.

TO isn't going anywhere.

Edit: fixed link.
 

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Hostile;2578909 said:
I don't know why this is so hard to grasp.

If he isn't cut, he will cost approximately $9,000,000.00 against the 2009 Cap.


If he gets' cut, he will cost approximately $9,600,000.00 against the 2009 Cap.


Hence why the thinking that the cap hit is only $600,000.00. In other words, to do it only costs that amount more than not doing it.
Economic logic can be deceptively difficult. It's not just math when there's money involved.
 

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BTW Owens is due a $3.1 million roster bonus and $2.67 million base salary in 2009.

Jerry saves $5.77 MILLION CASH in 2009 WHEN HE DUMPS THIS CRYBABY.

That's almost SIX MILLION REASONS why TO will be DUMPED ;)
 
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