A 7 year QB Starter should elevate a team

[Whirlwin]

I apologize. You didn't..exactly... lie.

However...you compare 1st round QB...HIGH 1st round....that usually have to go to crappy teams in desperate need of a good QB...hence the high 1st round designation.

Compared to Dak's lower round but STACKED team.

Not a lie but intellectually dishonest.

Thank you for correcting me.

And he took that stacked team to the playoffs. Only because Byron Jones didn’t get deep enough Green Bay won. And then you know what happen the next year Elliot hold out in the year after Dez Bryant, Jason, Witten, and the center.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

And he took that stacked team to the playoffs. Only because Byron Jones didn’t get deep enough Green Bay won. And then you know what happen the next year Elliot hold out in the year after Dez Bryant, Jason, Witten, and the center.

Yes okay....I mean....I'm not trying to make any nefarious point against Dak. You are starting to argue stuff I never said or insinuated.

Fact is...starting rookie Dak played on a far better team than most rookie QB's get to do. And any comparisons should consider the weighting factor.

That's it...that is all I am saying.

 

[diamonddelts]

One of the biggest concerns about Dak is his inability to elevate a team even when it's compromised. He's never really gotten over that hump and show that he's that dude. He's basically our version of Kirk Cousin's with a little more overall talent.
I will cut him some slack given the Oline injuries against Arizona but he needs to demonstrate it was an aberration and not a continuing trend or he will lose this fanbase pretty fast.
Dak's a cool dude but eventually the walk has to match the Talk.

Fanbase is not going anywhere. The same suckers complain yet tune in and drive in every year.

 

[basel90]

Why would an owner change that business model?

you have a point if the ownership is happy to just collect money . But i know jerry and co are sensing there may be a fan uproar if this latest experiment fails with MM and Dak . there is a reason jerry is booed anytime he appears on the big screen. But you are right . the fan base is gullible mostly.

 

[GINeric]

I apologize. You didn't..exactly... lie.

However...you compare 1st round QB...HIGH 1st round....that usually have to go to crappy teams in desperate need of a good QB...hence the high 1st round designation.

Compared to Dak's lower round but STACKED team.

Not a lie but intellectually dishonest.

Thank you for correcting me.

Again.... good quarterbacks are drafted to elevate and upgrade their offense. Dak is a 4th round drafted quarterback with expectations placed on him greater than 1st and 2nd rounders.

It's like you're giving these other quarterbacks built in excuses. If they're especially great quarterbacks, then they should elevate their teams.

I'll say it like this. Is this a team game or not?? Because other quarterbacks get the excuse of a bad team when they don't perform.... but I've seen Dak catch flack for losing in games when he had an average receiving group, an injured offensive line and a defense that helped this team lead the league in penalties, twice.

Oh it's a Dak loss when we lose and a team effort when we win. But when other quarterbacks lose, he's given excuses for the team around him.... cmon...

 

[GINeric]

yep, about time you got it. The team wins, dak loses. Yeah, I love it when the guys say I'm not a dak homer but go on to say, Dak gets the wins, but every loss is a team loss. "It's a team sport you low IQ noobs who never played football, qb don't lose games"

This last one is you. "I swear I love it when you fraudulent hypocrites show your double standard ways publicly."

Man you are all over the place. Do you even watch and understand football?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Again.... good quarterbacks are drafted to elevate and upgrade their offense. Dak is a 4th round drafted quarterback with expectations placed on him greater than 1st and 2nd rounders.

It's like you're giving these other quarterbacks built in excuses. If they're especially great quarterbacks, then they should elevate their teams.

I'll say it like this. Is this a team game or not?? Because other quarterbacks get the excuse of a bad team when they don't perform.... but I've seen Dak catch flack for losing in games when he had an average receiving group, an injured offensive line and a defense that helped this team lead the league in penalties, twice.

Oh it's a Dak loss when we lose and a team effort when we win. But when other quarterbacks lose, he's given excuses for the team around him.... cmon...

You are arguing stuff I never and things I actually agree with you about. In the weeds. Moving posts.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Man you are all over the place. Do you even watch and understand football?

But of course, if people don't see things precisely as you do....they MUST be stupid idiots.

That's not a healthy policy.

 

[Typhus]

Mike has been hinting at it for awhile. MIke, "I like smart quarterbacks" Game plan changes and one guy doesn't get the throw those bad picks anymore. shrugs.

Cant win with a dumb one, have to have at least communication skils, not sitting on the bench in a blank stare.

 

[Whirlwin]

Yes okay....I mean....I'm not trying to make any nefarious point against Dak. You are starting to argue stuff I never said or insinuated.

Fact is...starting rookie Dak played on a far better team than most rookie QB's get to do. And any comparisons should consider the weighting factor.

That's it...that is all I am saying.

And that’s all I’m saying. If it wasn’t for Byron Jones, who knows.

 

[GINeric]

But of course, if people don't see things precisely as you do....they MUST be stupid idiots.

That's not a healthy policy.

That's not necessarily true. The only people who are stupid idiots, are those who have different sets of rules for Dak than they have for the other 31 quarterbacks.

Especially the stupid idiots that blame Dak for team losses, even if he had a solid game.... Yet give excuses to other quarterbacks in the same type of team losses. With that said, some of our losses WERE Dak's fault, but not every loss his whole career like some of these stupid idiots will try to lead you to believe.

Just because someone disagrees with me doesn't make them a stupid idiot. A stupid idiot is the ones who are liars, hypocrites, and think they know more about football than the players, coaches and GMs.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

That's not necessarily true. The only people who are stupid idiots, are those who have different sets of rules for Dak than they have for the other 31 quarterbacks.

Especially the stupid idiots that blame Dak for team losses, even if he had a solid game.... Yet give excuses to other quarterbacks in the same type of team losses. With that said, some of our losses WERE Dak's fault, but not every loss his whole career like some of these stupid idiots will try to lead you to believe.

Just because someone disagrees with me doesn't make them a stupid idiot. A stupid idiot is the ones who are liars, hypocrites, and think they know more about football than the players, coaches and GMs.

And you...are the judge jury and executioner of it?

 

[Captain-Crash]

Cant win with a dumb one, have to have at least communication skils, not sitting on the bench in a blank stare.

should be easy to tell tomorrow how the game will end. If dak is pouting on the bench setting by himself, the game is over. Can you get better leadership from a guy sitting pouting on the bench? sheesh. He needs to go back to school and work on a master's in leadership.

 

[Flamma]

One of the biggest concerns about Dak is his inability to elevate a team even when it's compromised. He's never really gotten over that hump and show that he's that dude. He's basically our version of Kirk Cousin's with a little more overall talent.
I will cut him some slack given the Oline injuries against Arizona but he needs to demonstrate it was an aberration and not a continuing trend or he will lose this fanbase pretty fast.
Dak's a cool dude but eventually the walk has to match the Talk.

Dak has peaked long ago. Don't expect more. What you see is what you get. Don't expect him to step up under adversity. That's just not him. But he has some good stats.

 

[Captain-Crash]

he can't even elevate himself. When he has a bad game, he can be found sitting on the bench with his head down pouting. He leads his asp off when the team is up but when the team is behind, good luck.

 

[krs1bro]

My gosh....what else do we have to see? The forum is spot on here regarding Duck. 8 years and some games seams like he was just hatched that morning of the present game. Derrrr.....

 

[GINeric]

And you...are the judge jury and executioner of it?

Nope. I just speak on what I see. I will say on the internet and I will definitely say it in person.

I guess you have no problem with people who live by double standards, hypocrisy, and believing they know more about football than professional players, coaches and GMs.

That says alot, but im honestly not surprised.

 

[Rockport]

Did you miss the clearest example of him elevating the team last year when he came back from injury? Anemic offense to #1 in every major category when he came back.

Too many people are clouded in every aspect of football bc of recency bias. It is hillarious.

The complete stupidity displayed here by many is an embarrassment to the site.

 

[Rockport]

Man you are all over the place. Do you even watch and understand football?

He’s proved over the years he has no understanding of NFL football. None.

 

[Captain-Crash]

He’s proved over the years he has no understanding of NFL football. None.

yeah, I don't quit and give up on the team when the qb gets hurt. You sound like a casual fan, which is okay, but I'm not sure why you're here complaining since you don't take it seriously. shrugs, to each their own.