A few quick points...

[YosemiteSam]

and quite frankly I'm not sure the strong genes of my family could overcome such a large deficit.

Ron White is my hero........You can't fix stupid.

I'm not sure your genes are that strong based on the bolded quotes! :laugh2:

 

[ndanger]

This thread gets better & better with every post. Thank goodness because the first one was a cluster****.

I know ,huh. My hope for humanity hasn't been this low since that whole Miss America's explanation about geography and maps incident. That was pretty scary as well, she was relatively hot, and that leaves little doubt about her ability to bear children.All we can hope for is, some of these guys look like Steve Irkle or Michael Jackson, therefore greatly reducing their chances of passing their suspect genes onto future generations.

 

[mmillman]

I agree that Barber needs a change of pace back, but I think someone with speed, hands and is shifty would be a good compliment to him and the offense.

Barber had a bad second half because NY adjusted to his excellent 1st half. You guys harping on his second half stats are cherry picking. I blamed Garrett for not adjusting. He kept on running Barber on first down and the Gints were stuffing him putting the offense in a continual long yardage situation.

 

[Hostile]

I remember an era where fans wanted to be Roger or Joe Willy in the back yard as kids. It scares me to think what some of these guys wanted to be as kids in the back yard. Seriously ,it scares me Hos., Not because I'm afraid as a man. I have two Daughters and if I don't continue to do my due diligence as a Father, there's a possibility of her mating with something like that ,and quite frankly I'm not sure the strong genes of my family could overcome such a large deficit. Ron White is my hero........You can't fix stupid.

I blame text messaging and standardized tests. We've diluted all challenges to the point that excelling at anything is a miracle rather than a goal.

 

[ndanger]

I'm not sure your genes are that strong based on the bolded quotes! :laugh2:

I have no problem with you questioning my family genes, simply because I know where I came from. I have to draw the line on Ron White though. Anyone who doesn't think that guy is funny has absolutely no sense of humor or is in a borderline coma or maybe hasn't found anywhere to get stupid fixed yet.You do understand I'm just trying to inject a little humor, right? Might be kinda lame, but in a rock,paper, scissors type contest, lame trumps ******** every time.I'm just sayin'.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I have no problem with you questioning my family genes, simply because I know where I came from. I have to draw the line on Ron White though. Anyone who doesn't think that guy is funny has absolutely no sense of humor or is in a borderline coma or maybe hasn't found anywhere to get stupid fixed yet.You do understand I'm just trying to inject a little humor, right? Might be kinda lame, but in a rock,paper, scissors type contest, lame trumps ******** every time.I'm just sayin'.

Don't get me wrong, I like Ron White. I just think promoting him to hero status is kind of scary!?!? :laugh2:

Now, you may return to being "Drunk in Public"

 

[ndanger]

I blame text messaging and standardized tests. We've diluted all challenges to the point that excelling at anything is a miracle rather than a goal.

All I know is that the dna pool has become so diluted and cloudy that there is no telling what all lurks at the bottom. Bear in mind, as bad as things seem now,they will continue to get worse.Yikes! By the way I lived in Arizona for ten years and have to say you've got it better than most, great state, great people.Be watchful though they are headed your way!

 

[djtavo]

So how long u guys think he took to write this BS ?? lol

 

[ndanger]

Don't get me wrong, I like Ron White. I just think promoting him to hero status is kind of scary!?!? :laugh2:

Now, you may return to being "Drunk in Public"

Yeah I guess I see your point. I was merely trying to emphasize "you can't fix stupid". After some of these threads, I may need to go in for repairs myself.

 

[EPL0c0]

Question
1. Marion Barber is a...
a. Proven Back
b. Unproven Back
c. Proven change of pace Back

2. Barber never got the start because
a. Parcells and Minnesota have no idea what they are doing
b. Julius Jones is that good
c. Barber is just a change of pace back

3. Trading Barber would be stupid because
a. We need an unproven back who makes starter money
b. We need a proven back who makes starter money but can't play a full 4
c. You just want to be different and say McFadden isn't good

1) B. He's still an unproven back. We still don't know if he can be the kind of RB to carry the load.

2) D. Jones appeared to be better at pass blocking and picking up blitzers

3) D. Even if a #2 RB, he's a helluva #2 RB. Being there can lessen the wear and tear on a starter (if he's not the starter)

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I blame text messaging and standardized tests. We've diluted all challenges to the point that excelling at anything is a miracle rather than a goal.

Those things weren't the beginning of the end, this was...

 

[Primetime0201]

Let's see, in your signature you're using 10 carries in one half of 1 game as proof that Barber can't be a starting RB.

How has T.O. done in the second half against the Giants?

vs. Giants: 0 catches for 0 yards

How has Tony Romo done in the second half of the past two playoff games?

vs. Giants: 9-22 for 110 yards 0 TD and 1 INT

Oh no! They're not worthy of being starters when you look at their stats in a one game vacuum! Notice the ineffectiveness of our three star players in the second half, perhaps they all suck or perhaps it had something to do with our offensive line/improved play by the Giants d-line.

You readily make the assumption that all Cowboys fans think that all Cowboys players are the best in the league, but just look around this board and you see criticism of almost any player/coach.

Roy Williams = Sucks.
Bobby Carpenter = Bust.
Terrell Owens = Can't Catch and a Distraction.
Wade Phillips = Can't Win Playoff Games.
Flozell Adams = Too Many False Starts.
Kyle Kosier = Just Avergae.
Patrick Crayton = Gives Up on Routes.
Anthony Henry = Always Injured.
Greg Ellis = Cry Baby.
Akin Ayodele = Just Average.
Marcus Spears = Bust.
Tony Romo = Starts Too Slow, Can't Throw Deep, INT Prone.
Marion Barber = Overrated.

My God, how were we 13-3 last year?

You say you want to look at facts but then you stereotype Cowboys fans views and use ONE game as a reference to show that a player doesn't have the ability to start. You say barber has NEVER been that starter which isn't true, not including the playoff game. You say you bring up Barber's stats as a starter, but you don't. You bring up Barber's starts from one half as a starter. What about the first half of the Giants game? What about the 127 yards 2 TD game as a Starter vs. Arizona in 2005? No we should probably throw those out because they don't fit your agenda.

You call Barber unproven and then advocate drafting another unproven player who would cost both of our first round picks and a large portion of our cap. Trading one unproven for another that costs more and who's acquisition would hurt the teams ability to improve at other positions...that makes sense to you? That kind of logic is supposed to convince people that you're making reasonable arguments? Not a whole lot of people on this board want to see Barber taking 350+ carries next year, people realize that he needs a running mate and there are active debates going on about who that player should be. I'm not even against taking a 1st round RB to help Barber out, but using both our firsts in order to make a move for an unproven guy like McFadden would be even more foolhardy than signing a more proven, but still relatively unproven, guy like Barber to a contract.

It's clear you're working an agenda here so please, before you post next time, check your bias at the door.

Nope you got it wrong. I used his second half numbers of the only game he started to see if he could hold up for all 4, and HE CAN'T! He is nothing but a good change of pace back so get over you little crush and move on.

 

[Primetime0201]

Okay I expected all of you to act like Barber is the next Emmitt Smith (And he is no where near that BTW) But none of you have given proof that he is in fact a proven back.... Is he proven or not? Or can all you do is make insults because you don't know what else to say. How about you compare Barber to another running back rather then a WR or QB. I mean lets make it fair.

 

[Stash]

As soon as you admit that you're actually an Eagles fan.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I am sorry... I couldnt read the whole orginal post. I kept reading and reading and it all seemed to be about the ONE New England play.

Give me a break.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

can all you do is make insults because you don't know what else to say.

We can say plenty, it's just more fun to insult you.

 

[skinsscalper]

I try to make a point to learn something every day. Some times it's big other times it's a snipet of trivia.

Yet it never fails, I come to the Zone and open a POS like the original post and BAM! I've ******** myself. When you finish reading a post and the only real thought that it provokes is the fact that you want that 5 minutes of your life back, it's a true indication of how there really is no cure for stupid.

Now I've got to learn double for the day.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

CASE

Or can all you do is make insults

POINT

I come to the Zone and open a POS like the original post and BAM! I've ******** myself.

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

Okay, you asked for something to "prove" to you that Barber could start. Now remember, Barber has started from what I remember one game. The playoff game. I did notice, however, that you didn't mention Barber's first half stats, but as a hater, I can understand why you wouldn't want to do that. You also dismiss the fact that the Giants DL was playing phenomenal, just ask the Patriots.

So, I took a look at some of this year's teams that ran a two-back system for one reason or another. Here's some food for thought:

Dallas
Barber 975 yds, 4.8 ypr, 10 Tds
Jones (the starter) 588, 3.6, 2

Giants
Jacobs (the starter) 1008, 5.0, 4
Ward 602, 4.8, 3

Green Bay
Grant 956, 5.1, 8
Jackson (the starter; injured) 267, 3.6, 1

NE
Mauroney (the starter; injury at beginning of season) 835, 4.5 6
Morris (injured during season) 385, 4.5, 3

Jax
Taylor (the starter) 1202, 5.4, 5
Jones-Drew 768, 4.6, 9

Vikes
Taylor (started the season and games after Peterson injury) 844, 5.4, 7
Peterson 1341, 5.6, 12


So, of the starters listed, only Jacobs and Taylor outgained our backup. Of the backups, only Peterson, the ROY, outgained MBIII. He was also 2nd on this list in TDs.

I'm sure you'll do some more 2:30 a.m. research and come up with another reason why Barber shouldn't be considered the starter. And that's OK; you're entitled to your opinion, regardless how stupid it is.

Good thing BP saw past Romo's lack of experience and made him the starter. Took him four years, but he did it. MBIII would've been his starter, too.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Okay I expected all of you to act like Barber is the next Emmitt Smith (And he is no where near that BTW) But none of you have given proof that he is in fact a proven back.... Is he proven or not? Or can all you do is make insults because you don't know what else to say. How about you compare Barber to another running back rather then a WR or QB. I mean lets make it fair.

Nor have you given proof that he is NOT a #1 back, which is your entire premise.

The thing is, the burden of proof is on YOU, not those of us who think he can become a solid #1 RB in the NFL. You're the one claiming he will never amount to more than a nice backup, and yet you've provided nothing more than stats from his first start against the eventual SB champion as "evidence". I believe he can and will be a #1 back in this league, and I just have to sit back and let his play in years to come do my talking for me. You are the one who has to convince me otherwise. You can't just say he will never amount to anything and then challenge ME to prove YOU wrong, it doesnt work that way Mensa.

Now, either prove to me he won't ever be a solid #1 RB, or crawl back into that disease-ridden crevice from which you emerged and spare us your endless barrage of incompetence and nonsense.