A Touch of Hostility... Week 14

[proline]

I havent seen one person talk about the corelation of the goal line stand and the loss of marty b.

And the loss of Columbo ...

 

[RS12]

I do agree, the group of "Fans" that love it when we lose and post here in bunches right after make me ill.

they always talk about all this generic crap and just basically intend to frustrate and tick off the rest of us.

I havent seen one person talk about the corelation of the goal line stand and the loss of marty b. they are all to busy firing all the coaches and saying how are players suck.

Dont you get it? Somehow, someway this team was going to find a way to lose today, just like they did last week. Stop with Ware and all the other excuses. Good teams win most of the games the Cowboys lost today and this season.

 

[peppersquad]

Isn't the ides of a month the 15th? Pretty sure

 

[Coakleys Dad]

great post Hos and pretty much a dead on snapshot.

 

[theebs]

Dont you get it? Somehow, someway this team was going to find a way to lose today, just like they did last week. Stop with Ware and all the other excuses. Good teams win most of the games the Cowboys lost today and this season.

I didnt use one excuse for the loss. I didnt even comment on the loss or offer my opinion.

My comments were on the fans that do nothing but complain but can not even point reasons why stuff happened nor do they care to learn.

Just whine baby.

 

[RS12]

I didnt use one excuse for the loss. I didnt even comment on the loss or offer my opinion.

My comments were on the fans that do nothing but complain but can not even point reasons why stuff happened nor do they care to learn.

Just whine baby.

How bout these three reasons 1) average talent 2) below average coaching 3) poor execution

 

[TheDude]

And the loss of Columbo ...

Who drafted and kept FREE as the alternative. Why dont you mention SD losing their starting gaurd for most of the game.. that backup had no problem on Ratliff, etc.

 

[theebs]

How bout these three reasons 1) average talent 2) below average coaching 3) poor execution

Generic as it gets. Why not just tell me we scored less points.

 

[Air Force One]

My comments were on the fans that do nothing but complain but can not even point reasons why stuff happened

^^third down defense


agree with the OP. I cant remember the last time a game was fun. I'm scared to death every week. It would just be nice to have some confidence in these guys

then again, I dont think they have a whole lot of confidence in themselves right now and I blame coaching at the end of the day

 

[Direwolf63]

I didnt use one excuse for the loss. I didnt even comment on the loss or offer my opinion.

My comments were on the fans that do nothing but complain but can not even point reasons why stuff happened nor do they care to learn.

Just whine baby.

In a earlier post you mentioned the loss of Bennett as the problem at the goal line. Maybe so. Maybe not.

But if losing a second string TE makes that big of a difference, then you have bigger problems. The last 2 teams we've faced, the Giants and Chargers, have more injuries than we do. They started their 4th string NT for crying out loud.

This team has some talent, but not enough to beat contenders, period. This team can beat 5-11 teams all year, but simply are not good enough or talented enough to beat the upper echelon teams in this league. The coaching doesn't help.

You may not like to read it, but sometmes the truth hurts.

 

[SuspectCorner]

Isn't the ides of a month the 15th? Pretty sure

It's the 15th day of some months and the 13th day of others (December being such a month)...

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

right...you're sick of tis decade, yet you still want Garrett to lead us into the next one. Giving 4th and goal to the lead back is like handing this mess over to Garrett. And Jones is dumb enough to do it, which would take us from a touch of hostility to a groping of insanity.

 

[theebs]

In a earlier post you mentioned the loss of Bennett as the problem at the goal line. Maybe so. Maybe not.

But if losing a second string TE makes that big of a difference, then you have bigger problems. The last 2 teams we've faced, the Giants and Chargers, have more injuries than we do. They started their 4th string NT for crying out loud.

This team has some talent, but not enough to beat contenders, period. This team can beat 5-11 teams all year, but simply are not good enough or talented enough to beat the upper echelon teams in this league. The coaching doesn't help.

You may not like to read it, but sometmes the truth hurts.

that wasnt a reason I think we lost. That was just a simple example of something someone could have used, one of these people that are on here running around complaining about the play calling and the goal line stand.

I was simply saying, at least someone could make a corelation between that struggle today and marty b being out or something like that instead of just screaming for people to be cut or fired.

I didn't say that is why we lost, nor have I made any excuses for it.

 

[Randy White]

I think we were even with the Giants, but San Diego is head and shoulders better than us. Unfortunately.

I don't think they're head and shoulders better than us. I said last week that we match up well with them because their defense like to gamble and we should take opportunity of that. We didn't. I don't know what's in Garrett's head, but I'm tired of defending it. His play designing is not the problem, his play calling is. Perhaps it's because he's on the sidelines instead of the press box and doesn't really get a complete feel and/or view of defenses, perhaps ( and this is the theory I support the most ) it's because there isn't a strong voice that keeps him in check, just like Jimmy Johnson did to Norv back in the SB days. 4th and 1 and call a double tight dive to the FB with Marion as the FB ? and hike the ball on first sound ? That's STUPID. If you're not sure, call a damn timeout and come up with something better. Here's an idea, come in with a 3 receiver, 1 TE, RB set, spread the defense and THEN hand the ball to Barber ?... I guess that's too complicated..

and defensively, yea, we played " ok ", but I also warned that if we didn't get to Rivers, he was going to cut us like fresh tuna in an iron chef show. Sure enough, we didn't get to him, and he got us at the most important times. I know the offense was incompetent, mostly because of the play calling, but my biggest beef is with the defense. I'm tired of watching Cowboys CB, particularly Terrence Newman, watch receivers streak by him, thinking the safety has him over the top, and making plays. I don't know if it's by design ( probably it is ), or just him doing " his thang ", but once and for all STOP THAT. If a receiver is streaking down the sideline: STICK WITH HIM. If he's just a decoy to vacate the area so a RB or TE can come in and catch a dump pass, then ADJUST the damn defense, but that DAMN receiver is making too many plays and he's a hell of alot more dangerous than some TE or RB catching a dump pass ( Brandon Jacobs notwisthstanding ).

By the way, Keith Brookins, thanks for the inspirational leadership early in the season, but you showed why ATL didn't want to keep you. You've had a wonderful career, but unfortunately father time catches up to everyone. You can't play 10 games at full speed anymore, much less 16, without you losing alot of your game so if you're willing to become a part time player to help the your replacement ease up the transition, great, love to keep your leadership around 1 more year, if not, then thank you for your contribution, but it's time to see more of Jason Williams playing in your spot. James Brady: because of the season you had last year, you deserve the benefit of doubt, but be aware: in the offseason, you need to drop 10-15 lbs, you need to become quicker and you need to become SMARTER. You look heavier and slower than you did last year, but less physical and that's a NO-NO. You also better hit the film room more often because your reading and reacting has become just as slow as your footspeed.

After all that rant, it still comes down to leadership at the top and unfortunately, we don't have that. Cupcake needs to go.

 

[Hoofbite]

I do agree, the group of "Fans" that love it when we lose and post here in bunches right after make me ill.

I don't think anyone loves losing. I think a lot of negative backlash comes because many people who post dissenting views are instantly **** on by a large number of posters on this board.

I havent seen one person talk about the corelation of the goal line stand and the loss of marty b. they are all to busy firing all the coaches and saying how are players suck.

One goal line trip isn't enough to draw any sort of conclusion.

I have to agree with you hos. this place has actually turned for the worse and it just makes the losses more hard to handle. the fans of this team never stand up for their team, they just want to move on to the next hot name or topic.

This place is what you make it. Look at Slate. I give him **** all the time but somehow, be it drugs or alcohol, he makes this place a good spot for himself. Nobody is forcing anyone to read anything. Nobody is calling anyone to arms to fight off the mob.

Losing sucks. it really sucks that a place as large as this just makes the losses worse.

I think you'd see a lot few of the negative reactionary threads if people would refrain from rubbing **** in other people's faces. Which reminds me,

The "Realists" and the "Optimists" should probably both shut the **** up because ya know what, the truth lies somewhere between the two.

 

[Direwolf63]

Generic as it gets. Why not just tell me we scored less points.

Execution.

On the goal line, their LB (Siler?) blew through gaps 3 times to stuff Barber. Three times!! Somebody continually blew their assignment. Was it Free? Was it Davis? Gurode? At the end of the day, they blew it.

Folk whined about his holder. He got a new one and guess what? He missed another kick. On the CBS broadcast said it best: "who is he going to blame for this one?".

Penalties. Mental lapses. Brain farts. Missed assignments. Poor coaching. Poor GMing. It's all there.

It may be generic, but it's the truth.

 

[Direwolf63]

that wasnt a reason I think we lost. That was just a simple example of something someone could have used, one of these people that are on here running around complaining about the play calling and the goal line stand.

I was simply saying, at least someone could make a corelation between that struggle today and marty b being out or something like that instead of just screaming for people to be cut or fired.

I didn't say that is why we lost, nor have I made any excuses for it.

I have no issues with the play calling. I think Garrett will be the next HC and I'm OK with that. But this team does not or cannot execute because they are not as talented as many people think they are.

 

[SuspectCorner]

right...you're sick of tis decade, yet you still want Garrett to lead us into the next one. Giving 4th and goal to the lead back is like handing this mess over to Garrett. And Jones is dumb enough to do it, which would take us from a touch of hostility to a groping of insanity.

I don't think it's so much a problem with the play call as a lack of execution. My understanding was that, leading up to this game, the interior of San Diego's line was 'soft'. A quick hit up the middle is per 'the book' on that defense.

I haven't seen the replay but one of the other posters, possibly in another thread, pointed out that Davis whiffed on his man.

That would be the problem. Player execution - not the play call.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

that wasnt a reason I think we lost. That was just a simple example of something someone could have used, one of these people that are on here running around complaining about the play calling and the goal line stand.

I was simply saying, at least someone could make a corelation between that struggle today and marty b being out or something like that instead of just screaming for people to be cut or fired.

I didn't say that is why we lost, nor have I made any excuses for it.

After the game, the Chargers called us predictable. That speaks volumes about the incompetency of the coaches calling the kinds of plays that give players an advantage in execution. In fact may opponents have called us predictable in these kinds of late-season games - this season and past. If you want a direct correlation between a reason and losing then you can go pull this one out of your calculator.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

I do agree, the group of "Fans" that love it when we lose and post here in bunches right after make me ill.

they always talk about all this generic crap and just basically intend to frustrate and tick off the rest of us.

I havent seen one person talk about the corelation of the goal line stand and the loss of marty b. they are all to busy firing all the coaches and saying how are players suck.

I have to agree with you hos. this place has actually turned for the worse and it just makes the losses more hard to handle. the fans of this team never stand up for their team, they just want to move on to the next hot name or topic.

I always find it ironic that the same fans who post on here who complain about the fans in the stadium actually have the exact same crappy attitude as the people they are complaining about. I always get the feeling these people would be the ones in the stadium yelling and screaming about firing coaches and benching players during the game....

Losing sucks. it really sucks that a place as large as this just makes the losses worse.

Agreed in totality.

It sucks twice as much for the Admins and moderators though. They don't have the liberty to stay away for a few days and they patrol every single ******** thread to keep the peace. You end up jaded after a few years of dealing with the fans that are so vocal, yet so generic.