Aaron Rodgers (last night) vs. Dak (against the Cards)

[waldoputty]

I don't think he's Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers, so I have an agenda? lol, ok.

dak beat brady's int record while not dinking last year.
he seems more mobile than rodgers and probably more physically than rodgers.
while his mobility helps with his passing, he is already a better passer than cam.

before we see the dak of last year, the offense needs to adapt to the way denver played us.
it is a team game, and that means improvement at LG and adapting the receivers package.
going to cooper may actually help the OL in the running game.
unfortunately switzer may be behind on the routes/experience due to his injury.
switzer's availability would create NE like packages for dak.

 

[SDCowboy]

Good stuff as always, Trouty.

 

[Trouty]

Good stuff as always, Trouty.

Thanks, SD.

Just making some content to get us by till Sunday. Wasn't meant to turn into what this thread became -- a big pissing contest and an abstract of Dak

SD, brother, thank you

 

[Future]

Yeah I don't know. His ball protection skills are elite and it's not because everything's a dump-off, given his strong YPA. Can you accomplish that without being a thinking man's quarterback?

The things we put on this kid as a rookie. The amount he was able to absorb. Would it all have been possible if he weren't a cerebral QB?

The RPO you keep referring to. That's the definition in my view of attacking the opponent with a cerebral passing game: one that requires the QB to make split second live-action reads and decisions that determine whether we'll pass at all and, if not, whether he'll hand it off or take off himself.

Think you go too far with your focus on his admittedly impressive physical abilities.

I'm not saying he isn't smart. He is. But he's not going to sit at the line every play and create easy matchups.

Yes you have to be smart for RPO in the moment, but it's generally just two reads. And it's based on the fact that he is a good runner. You don't run it if you're Tom Brady.

This whole thing has gotten way skewed. All I have ever said is that I don't think he's Tom Brady and it's gotten spun into me not liking him lol

 

[Future]

It's more than that, brosefus. You comp'd him wildly wrong and have **** on him in subtle ways. When proved wrong, you say "I don't care blah blah blah"

GTHO

You didn't prove me wrong on anything. You're saying that the opinion of a trainer and 8 games makes him the next Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers. You don't even know the definition of rpo or how it makes Dak different than Brady lol.

I've been a member of this board since like 2004. Thank you for reminding me why I stopped posting.

 

[waldoputty]

You didn't prove me wrong on anything. You're saying that the opinion of a trainer and 8 games makes him the next Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers. You don't even know the definition of rpo or how it makes Dak different than Brady lol.

I've been a member of this board since like 2004. Thank you for reminding me why I stopped posting.

The problem is you comped Dak to McNabb and Cam.
The biggest similarity between Dak and NcNabb/Cam are that they are black and they are big tough guys.

I am not going to look up stats for this but Dak is clearly a superior passer to those 2.
The super low INT rate and the high completion rate separates him from most QBs, not just McNabb and Cam.
Furthermore, Dak makes decisions like top QBs and do not give in to making stupid risks.
Dak also is the type of QB you are confident in leading you in the 2 minute drill.
The coolness and competence he plays with in a 2 minute drill is perhaps the most like a Brady and Rodgers - nevermind the body, passing comparisons.

 

[Trouty]

You didn't prove me wrong on anything. You're saying that the opinion of a trainer and 8 games makes him the next Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers. You don't even know the definition of rpo or how it makes Dak different than Brady lol.

I've been a member of this board since like 2004. Thank you for reminding me why I stopped posting.

Who cares how long you've been a member here. Here's your cookie, brother.

If you want to turn this into your thread, make your own. And good riddance if it means you "stop posting". Is that a threat? Prove it! Lol

"Wah wah wah, I can't get the last word and my opinion is crap, I won't post then. That will show Trouty"

20 games gives me a good indication he is very similar to Brady, further establishing my take 8 games into his career.

Never said he was similar to Rodgers, buddy boy, you did, if anyone in this thread has.

Go cry in your corner. Now that you know me, put me on ignore and don't go in my threads. I will always defend my stance.

 

[Cowboys_22]

Aaron -- 18-26, 69.2 Comp %, 179 YDs, 4 TDs., 128.0 QB Rating. 6.9 YPA

Dak -- 13-18, 72.2 Comp %, 183 YDs, 2 TDs, 1 rush TD. 141.7 QB Rating. 10.17 YPA

Dak played against a shutdown corner and a superior D. Aaron played against a lesser D, with admittedly a better D Coordinator in Fangio.

Dak is just getting started. As Cowherd pointed out, look at the QB leaders through three weeks of the 2000 season. It was Griese and Couch.

Dak is arriving.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RodgAa00.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01.htm

Great post Trouty!

I wouldn't trade Dak for any QB out there that's for sure.

Go Cowboys!

 

[Trouty]

Great post Trouty!

I wouldn't trade Dak for any QB out there that's for sure.

Go Cowboys!

Thanks, RGV!!!

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Best young QB in the league. Wouldn't trade him for anything.

 

[Sarge]

Aaron -- 18-26, 69.2 Comp %, 179 YDs, 4 TDs., 128.0 QB Rating. 6.9 YPA

Dak -- 13-18, 72.2 Comp %, 183 YDs, 2 TDs, 1 rush TD. 141.7 QB Rating. 10.17 YPA

Dak played against a shutdown corner and a superior D. Aaron played against a lesser D, with admittedly a better D Coordinator in Fangio.

Dak is just getting started. As Cowherd pointed out, look at the QB leaders through three weeks of the 2000 season. It was Griese and Couch.

Dak is arriving.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RodgAa00.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01.htm

Those who don't believe by now don't want to believe.

 

[SlammedZero]

Thanks, SD.

Just making some content to get us by till Sunday. Wasn't meant to turn into what this thread became -- a big pissing contest and an abstract of Dak

SD, brother, thank you

I was picking up what you were putting down with the post Trouty!! Some people are so serious! haha

 

[perrykemp]

Those who don't believe by now don't want to believe.

I wonder if the Packers having to start their Offensive Tackle #6 and #7 had something to do with Rodger's low YPA last night. It looked like their strategy was to get rid of the ball fast.

 

[Melonfeud]

He is extraordinary rolling out.

From what I did see of the cards game,,, #4 looked exemplary and his right flank roll out,,,

 

[Corso]

You'd compare him to McNabb? He (McNabb) was horrible on short routes and had a cannon. Dak is finesse on short routes and doesn't have the arm strength.

Lazy comparison. Lazy.

And yes, mobile QB is every bit of the RG3's, Taylor's, Kaep's, Mariota's, Watson's. Dak's legs being a threat doesn't mean that Dak is a "mobile QB" in the same vein as the aforementioned. He isn't. He's a young Brady that can scramble and get you a first down. The former are players they rely on their legs. Dak doesn't.

I see that cherry picking is convienent when it suits your argument.

You should care about what Brady did in 2001 and 2002 when it's the crux of my argument. Again, you don't get to move this around to suit your lazy take, brosefus.

I'm not talking about a run game and Dak, bruh. This isn't about that. This is only about a similar game between Dak and Arod. How successful was Brady without a top-5 D?

Don't polute my thread with some agenda, son. PM me or make your own.

And Cam Newton, son? A dude with no touch and only an arm and RPO's every down?

Turn in your fan card. Or at least turn in your evaluation card. Just ban yourself.

This man makes me want to punch an Eagles fan in the jaw, with the ugliest look upon my face like I'm big sausage.
And then run away when it doesn't faze him.

 

[Future]

The problem is you comped Dak to McNabb and Cam.
The biggest similarity between Dak and NcNabb/Cam are that they are black and they are big tough guys.

I am not going to look up stats for this but Dak is clearly a superior passer to those 2.
The super low INT rate and the high completion rate separates him from most QBs, not just McNabb and Cam.
Furthermore, Dak makes decisions like top QBs and do not give in to making stupid risks.
Dak also is the type of QB you are confident in leading you in the 2 minute drill.
The coolness and competence he plays with in a 2 minute drill is perhaps the most like a Brady and Rodgers - nevermind the body, passing comparisons.

I didn't compare him to McNabb trouty did. It has nothing to do with them being black. It had to do with physicality. I mentioned a whole bunch of other guys too

 

[Trouty]

I didn't compare him to McNabb trouty did. It has nothing to do with them being black. It had to do with physicality. I mentioned a whole bunch of other guys too

Migosh, you are insufferable. I didn't compare him to McNabb, I stated they are polar-opposites.

Are you for real?

 

[Future]

Migosh, you are insufferable. I didn't compare him to McNabb, I stated they are polar-opposites.

Are you for real?

Go scroll back and see who brought McNabb up. You're an idiot

You don't even seem to realize that comparing two players doesn't mean that they have every trait in common.

 

[waldoputty]

I didn't compare him to McNabb trouty did. It has nothing to do with them being black. It had to do with physicality. I mentioned a whole bunch of other guys too

I am not going to get into a he-said-she-said.
having physicality does not mean he is a running QB.
he is a better and more complete QB than Cam and McNabb etc.

the point is that Dak has a low int rate and high completion rate.
furthermore he is the type of leader that is calm cool collected like a staubach, aikman, montana, brady, peyton manning.
with him at the helm, i sure feel a lot better than most QBs when we need a TD and got the ball on our own 25.
that includes Romo because you always worry about the big mistake.

that does not mean we will ever win a lombardi with him, but i like our chances with him than most young QBs in the league.
in fact, i cannot think of a better young QB with the it-factor.

just think about the playoff game last year.
dak took us to the score but it was the defense that led us down.

 

[Trouty]

Go scroll back and see who brought McNabb up. You're an idiot

You don't even seem to realize that comparing two players doesn't mean that they have every trait in common.

I didn't say I didn't bring him (McNabb) up. I said I didn't compare Dak to McNabb.

Nuances. Remember that word, big boy? Now, who brought that word up?

And let's leave insults at the door, mon frere. Come here and get your hug.