According to a giants board, Phil Simms ripped Romo...

[theogt]

UT fans do not and did not hate Chris Simms, we did get very frustrated with him.

If I had a dime for every time I heard "Put Applewhite in ******!!!"

 

[big dog cowboy]

Or one of those "Scoreboard" cards

"Ballin'!!!!!!!"

 

[Hostile]

And said he was a product of "the system" and he just throws to his first read and doesn't check down. Is this true? Did Simms say anything like that about Romo?

Even if he did, I don't believe it. I think Romo is making the reads correctly and checking down when needed.

Phil Simms is a great analyst, but he's off base here. If a QB's first read is open, why wouldn't the QB throw that read the ball? That's stupid. We have good weapons who can get open.

I quit discussing QB mechanics on this forum because some posters take offense so easily and get stupid about it. I see something in Tony Romo that I have not heard anyone else talking about. Let me explain, or at least try to.

Too many people see a QBs helmet move and call that a "read" that he's reading the field. That isn't a "read" it's a "look." Reading the options involves more than just the head turning, the QBs feet must also be moving so he can set and his hips and shoulders must turn in that direction. It's about proper mechanics.

No QB can have his feet, hips and shoulders squared to the right and throw back left with accuracy. It cannot be done. Someone will say John Elway could throw back across his body and so can Brett Favre. But before they make those throws they turn their upper torso to square to that target. It's freakish how they do that.

What does this have to do with Tony Romo? Quite simply this kid makes great reads and he moves his feet, sets his hips, squares his shoulders, and is always in line to make an accurate throw. It is beautiful how well he does this. I have not been this impressed with a QBs sound mechanics on that aspect of the game in years. He is making 3 and 4 progression reads every game and faster than most QBs I've ever seen.

One more thing that I mentioned to a poster yesterday in a PM. Watch the kid when he scrambles out of the pocket. He never takes his eyes off of upfield. That is fantastic. It means he is always looking to make his reads.

Phil Simms is simply wrong on this one. Dead wrong.

 

[Doomsday101]

Guys your getting second hand news from a giants board don't treat it like it is fact.

 

[Hostile]

Guys your getting second hand news from a giants board don't treat it like it is fact.

I did do that. My apologies if Phil Simms did not say that.

 

[superpunk]

There's no way Simms said that.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I just don't believe SIMMS would say that about the BEST QB ROMO in the NFL without first helping his son out with all his sorry QB issues!

 

[DCBoysfan]

Link?????

 

[theebs]

I highly doubt simms said romo is a system quarterback.

He didnt say anything like that in the booth during the colts game.

One more thing, simms would know about system quarterbacks. When he was at the combine bill walsh told him that he would draft him and make him the number 1 qb in the nfl with the new high percentage offensive system he had. He was looking for a guy with touch and grace.

Simms however continued to throw every ball as hard as he could and walsh drafted joe montana instead, he became the best qb in the league. Simms had to fight to get on the field for a few years especially when parcells took over because he was a risk taker and he was stubborn.

Being labeled a system quarterback is misleading to me. I dont think if someone says that about romo it is an insult. I think some are taking it like romo could only play here. I mean seriously you think romo couldnt walk into one of the cozy west coast offenses that seattle or philly run and have success? Please, Jeff garcia has no arm whatsoever and look how good he looked monday.

So anyway, if simms did say this I dont think it was meant as an insult, but fans take it that way because they misunderstand. Not to mention in flies directly in the face of everything the cowboys wr keep saying about romo. For instance crayton said yesterday that romo throws it to the first guy open not the main read like bledsoe did.

no harm in a system qb comment to me.

 

[Zaxor]

He is making 3 and 4 progression reads every game and faster than most QBs I've ever seen.

Hos I have seen a lot of football and alot of football players in my time and at this time I cannot think of anyone I have seen that does it faster...perhaps some were as fast.... but still I would be very hard pressed to name a qb that was faster...

and as I have developed a reputation on this board of throwing around compliments to players like I would manhole covers... that is saying something

 

[Dangerous Dave]

Too many people see a QBs helmet move and call that a "read" that he's reading the field. That isn't a "read" it's a "look." Reading the options involves more than just the head turning, the QBs feet must also be moving so he can set and his hips and shoulders must turn in that direction. It's about proper mechanics.

No QB can have his feet, hips and shoulders squared to the right and throw back left with accuracy. It cannot be done. Someone will say John Elway could throw back across his body and so can Brett Favre. But before they make those throws they turn their upper torso to square to that target. It's freakish how they do that.

Now that you mention it, Romo squared his torso right before he released the 42 yarder to JW to set up the winning FG. It was a beautiful throw.

 

[Hostile]

Now that you mention it, Romo squared his torso right before he released the 42 yarder to JW to set up the winning FG. It was a beautiful throw.

In my opinion, the best throw I have seen him make. I stood up out of my chair when I saw him set to make the throw because I knew it had to be deep down the field based on what you could see on the screen. He did a fantastic job. The kid has great mechanics and he's smart as well as accurate.

 

[cowboyed]

And said he was a product of "the system" and he just throws to his first read and doesn't check down. Is this true? Did Simms say anything like that about Romo?

Even if he did, I don't believe it. I think Romo is making the reads correctly and checking down when needed.

Yep they are dead on about Romo, and you know escaping the grasp of the defender, rolling to the left and throwing a laser to Witten in stride while two defenders are riding on his heels most definitely is a routine and designed play.

This is the bend over, I'll kiss my arse when I don't make the play with less than a minute to go. That is designed play calling 101, don't you know that guys. Romo has to rep that move at least 100 times a week in practices.

If he was a pure product of the system, he wouldn't be audibling or improvising on plays either. If you want to really split hairs everyone is a product of the system then, considering they are taught fundamental football and coaches ingrain offensive and defensive philosophy and strategy into the players.

Sour grapes of the extreme kind.

 

[Doomsday]

And said he was a product of "the system" and he just throws to his first read and doesn't check down. Is this true? Did Simms say anything like that about Romo?

Even if he did, I don't believe it. I think Romo is making the reads correctly and checking down when needed.

That is a bunch of BS Romo does a great job of going through his progressions, even his WRs were saying that they run all their routes harder knowing that Romo goes through his reads faster then Bledsoe and there is a chance they can get the ball on any play regardless of who is the primary target. I would tend to believe that more then a Giant homer.

 

[YosemiteSam]

And said he was a product of "the system" and he just throws to his first read and doesn't check down. Is this true? Did Simms say anything like that about Romo?

Even if he did, I don't believe it. I think Romo is making the reads correctly and checking down when needed.

I don't know what Phil Simms said, but he wouldn't bash him. Romo is in fact a product of the system though. He wouldn't be so prolific if he was playing for the Oakland Raiders. He has a Pro Bowl tight end, and (2) Pro Bowl receivers he is throwing to. An 8th ranked rushing offense thats 2nd ranked in rushing TDs.

Romo has A LOT of help making his job much easier. Anyone that would bash him would be a fool. Phil Simms is no fool.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

UT fans do not and did not hate Chris Simms, we did get very frustrated with him.

They didnt?

I can't think of a more divisive Longhorn topic then Simms/Applewhite.

- Mike G.

 

[SultanOfSix]

I don't know what Phil Simms said, but he wouldn't bash him. Romo is in fact a product of the system though. He wouldn't be so prolific if he was playing for the Oakland Raiders. He has a Pro Bowl tight end, and (2) Pro Bowl receivers he is throwing to. An 8th ranked rushing offense thats 2nd ranked in rushing TDs.

Romo has A LOT of help making his job much easier. Anyone that would bash him would be a fool. Phil Simms is no fool.

That's not the definition of a "product of the system."

 

[AmishCowboy]

Simms was gushing over him during the Colts game, so I doubt the truth in this.

 

[Zaxor]

That's not the definition of a "product of the system."

Funny ole Simms said Bledsoe was as close to Jesus in cleats as you can get...but Bledsoe couldn't get the job done with the same weapons and the same oline and the same defense

 

[YosemiteSam]

That's not the definition of a "product of the system."

To say "A product of the system" is in a since an ambiguous term. It actually does apply. First off, he spent 4 years in Dallas and learned. That makes him a product of the system. Also, if you have play making receivers, it makes it a lot easier to make plays. He isn't playing with Ron Brown and Stepfred Williams. If he had those receivers, it would make a world of difference. Having great play makers is also a product of the system.