According to our favorite source, WR Matt Jones may be looking for a home

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Matt Jones, WR Monday 5/26, 4:12 PM CT

Following up on an earlier report, it's been confirmed by RotoTimes sources that unless former first-round pick Matt Jones does something he hasn't done in his first three professional training camps, the Jacksonville organization plans to release him.

Our View: Jones, selected by Jaguars in first-round (21st pick overall) of 2005 NFL draft, was a reach to begin with. The college quarterback was drafted for his gifted physical skills and positioned as a wide receiver for his first three years as a pro.
 

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I expect Del Rio and the Jags to hold onto Jones until the final cutdown of preseason if they don't receive an offer for him.

A 6th or 7th round pick is a no-brainer to me.

This team is gearing-up to win a Super Bowl, I would hate to see it derailed by questionable wide receiver depth when you have the chance to add one.
 

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i would rather let hurd, austin and stanback develop than waste time on matt jones.
 

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What has Matt Jones ever done to even warrant giving up a 7th round draft choice?

He couldn't beat out the poor WR's that have been hanging around that roster for three years now.
 

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dcfanatic;2102719 said:
What has Matt Jones ever done to even warrant giving up a 7th round draft choice?

He couldn't beat out the poor WR's that have been hanging around that roster for three years now.

And notice that all of Jacksonville's receivers are poor?

Ever wonder why that is?

Maybe all of the blame doesn't go solely on Matt Jones?

He led the team in receiving in 2006.

Despite a down year in 2007 where Del Rio deactivated him for several games, his overall production was better than that of Austin, Hurd, and Stanback combined.
 

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He has a lot more TDs, receptions and yards than Hurd and Austin combined.
 

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They cut Leftwich, the face of their franchise, so Del Rio sure won't be afraid to cut another bad first round pick.
 

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stasheroo;2102729 said:
And notice that all of Jacksonville's receivers are poor?

Ever wonder why that is?

Maybe all of the blame doesn't go solely on Matt Jones?

He led the team in receiving in 2006.

Despite a down year in 2007 where Del Rio deactivated him for several games, his overall production was better than that of Austin, Hurd, and Stanback combined.

I agree and disagree with you. First off, how do you even throw Stanback in that argument when he hardly played last year. Go ahead and throw Glenn into that argument to make your point sound more valid.

Now, I know that Del Rio doesn't like Jones, and I wouldn't be surprised if he held on to him right till he absolutely had to get rid of him. Del Rio put Jones down as the emergency qb for a few games last year, and left him deactivated. So I don't think that Del Rio wants anything to do with Jones, but out of spite, he will keep him on the roster till there is no other option but to let him go. If Glenn isn't with the cowboys, then maybe we give Jones a look, but only if Glenn isn't here.
 

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If Jerry can find the key to unlock what's going on with Matt Jones', he might be a good addition. If anybody can find out what's wrong with him, it's Jerry with his extensive contacts at Arkansas. Apparently it's no secret that he desperately wants out of Jax. Matt Jones did catch 40+ passes in his rookie season (while converting from QB to WR); was only a little better in his 2nd year but not particularly good in his 3rd year when his HC deactivated him for several games. Admit I'm disturbed by the number of passes thrown his way in each of his 3 years with the Jax which he didn't catch for whatever reason. Wonder if we could get him from Jax for a conditional 7th rounder; Jax collect only if Jones is on the roster in the season opener.
 

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stasheroo;2102729 said:
And notice that all of Jacksonville's receivers are poor?

Ever wonder why that is?

Maybe all of the blame doesn't go solely on Matt Jones?

He led the team in receiving in 2006.

Despite a down year in 2007 where Del Rio deactivated him for several games, his overall production was better than that of Austin, Hurd, and Stanback combined.

most of it does however

I just don't see it, we have our projects at Wr, adding another one doesn't really do much to change the situation

of course his '07 production was above our young guys', because he's a 1st round pick, it would be almost stupid to not to try and get something out of him, by throwing to him
 

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jswalker1981;2102771 said:
I agree and disagree with you. First off, how do you even throw Stanback in that argument when he hardly played last year. Go ahead and throw Glenn into that argument to make your point sound more valid.

If people can count on Stanback in 2008, why not include him in the comparison?

The fact is that Stanback is a complete unknown at this point, yet some are talking about him being a key contributor at receiver. I don't think that's too realistic.

Now, I know that Del Rio doesn't like Jones, and I wouldn't be surprised if he held on to him right till he absolutely had to get rid of him. Del Rio put Jones down as the emergency qb for a few games last year, and left him deactivated. So I don't think that Del Rio wants anything to do with Jones, but out of spite, he will keep him on the roster till there is no other option but to let him go. If Glenn isn't with the cowboys, then maybe we give Jones a look, but only if Glenn isn't here.

I would take a closer look at what's happening.

A healthy Terry Glenn doesn't exist anymore, and the team has given him an ultimatum. Sign his split-salary contract or be released. I think Glenn's true intentions are to get paid, so I doubt he signs the deal and I think he'll be released in the next few days.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2102855 said:
most of it does however

That's a matter of opinion, or what % of blame you want to assign. It speaks loudly to me that Jacksonville as a franchise can't develop a solid receiver group despite its' best efforts. And keep in mind that the other receivers actually played receiver in college - now compare that to a guy trying to make a complete position change in the same situation. I'm surprised he's done what he has.

And think of what a receivers coach with Sherman's pedigree could do with a guy like Jones.

Bob Sacamano said:
I just don't see it, we have our projects at Wr, adding another one doesn't really do much to change the situation

I disagree. Jones has much better numbers than any healthy player on this team not named Owens or Crayton. At the least, he could be this team's #3 receiver and bring an element of speed the team might otherwise lack. While he is still a bit of a project, unlike Austin, Hurd, or Stanback, he's shown he can play at the NFL level.

Bob Sacamano said:
of course his '07 production was above our young guys', because he's a 1st round pick, it would be almost stupid to not to try and get something out of him, by throwing to him

It was stupid of them to deactivate him, yet they did. He led the team in receiving in 2006, but somehow, that didn't merit a starting role in '07? Figure that one out! I think I'd be a bit pissed too.

I think there's a guy in a bad situation in Jacksonville, but I don't place the blame solely on him. I think he's a guy who still has talent, and I think a better coaching staff and better surrounding talent might help that talent shine.

And I think it's worth a late round draft pick to find out.
 

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big dog cowboy;2102951 said:
If TG is going to get cut it won't be until July or August.

Sorry, I disagree.

Why do you feel that the team would wait?
 

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CrazyCowboy;2102953 said:
He is talented....maybe a new system would be great for him

And take a look at Ray Sherman's resume and track record.

I'd love to see what a guy who's worked with Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Donald Driver, Javon Walker, and many other great receivers could do with a guy with Matt Jones' physical talent.

And in the absolute worst-case scenario, Jones doesn't want to work at it and gets cut before the season starts?

What did it cost the team?

A 6th or 7th round pick?

Now think of the possible upside:

Isn't it worth it to find out?
 

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stasheroo;2102687 said:
I expect Del Rio and the Jags to hold onto Jones until the final cutdown of preseason if they don't receive an offer for him.

A 6th or 7th round pick is a no-brainer to me.

This team is gearing-up to win a Super Bowl, I would hate to see it derailed by questionable wide receiver depth when you have the chance to add one.

I know this is hard for you to fathom, but Matt Jones isnt going to make one iota's difference in this team (or any other teams) run for a super bowl

Matt Jones is not an improvement over anything currently here at WR

David
 

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stasheroo;2102971 said:
And take a look at Ray Sherman's resume and track record.

I'd love to see what a guy who's worked with Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Donald Driver, Javon Walker, and many other great receivers could do with a guy with Matt Jones' physical talent.

And in the absolute worst-case scenario, Jones doesn't want to work at it and gets cut before the season starts?

What did it cost the team?

A 6th or 7th round pick?

Now think of the possible upside:

Isn't it worth it to find out?

you still fail to comprehend that the guys you mention above all have outstanding talent FOR THE POSITION. Matt Jones does not, has not and never will have.

As for trading a 6th or 7th rd pick for him and it being a no brainer, no thanks...guys like Jay Ratliff and Patrick Crayton are eons better a player than Matt Jones will ever be, and they were 7th rd picks

David
 

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dbair1967 said:
I know this is hard for you to fathom, but Matt Jones isnt going to make one iota's difference in this team (or any other teams) run for a super bowl

Matt Jones is not an improvement over anything currently here at WR

David

And yet he still had better overall numbers than Hurd, Austin, and Stanback combined?

Funny how reality says differently.

Unlike you, I could bear to part with the 'great Miles Austin' and his '5 career catches' for Matt Jones instead.
 

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dbair1967 said:
you still fail to comprehend that the guys you mention above all have outstanding talent FOR THE POSITION. Matt Jones does not, has not and never will have.

What freakin' "talent for the positon" has Miles Austin shown? Or Stanbak for that matter?

Jack.

One guy has stuck around as a kick returner who can't catch the football. With the kick returners the team has added - along with Stanback - Austin's time has run out.

And Stanback hasn't shown a single thing to this point.

dbair1967 said:
As for trading a 6th or 7th rd pick for him and it being a no brainer, no thanks...guys like Jay Ratliff and Patrick Crayton are eons better a player than Matt Jones will ever be, and they were 7th rd picks

What about that 4th rounder on Skyler Green? How'd that one pay off?

We can argue hits and misses all day, but that merely distracts from the actual topic.

People have no problem with Erik Walden - a guy nobody ever heard of who may not even make the team - in the 6th round, but using a 6th or 7th on Matt Jones is somehow blasphemy?

Please.
 
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