According to our favorite source, WR Matt Jones may be looking for a home

[Gryphon]

Jerry Porter Injuries Achilles...

Wow! According to the Jags board members, WR Jerry Porter has suffered an Achilles injury but the extent is unknown from what they are saying.

There are reports that they may cut Matt Jones but may keep him around if Porter's injury keeps him out for a long period of time.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

One thing that I have not seen mentioned as it pertains to Matt Jones is that he would not have the luxury of putting in a half-hearted effort with TO and Witten on the practice field. If he came here, there would be immense pressure on him to perform just because the all-pros at the pass catching positions would demand it.

 

[Stash]

Jerry Porter Injuries Achilles...

Wow! According to the Jags board members, WR Jerry Porter has suffered an Achilles injury but the extent is unknown from what they are saying.

There are reports that they may cut Matt Jones but may keep him around if Porter's injury keeps him out for a long period of time.

That figures!

Keep me posted on Porter's status if you can.

 

[Stash]

One thing that I have not seen mentioned as it pertains to Matt Jones is that he would not have the luxury of putting in a half-hearted effort with TO and Witten on the practice field. If he came here, there would be immense pressure on him to perform just because the all-pros at the pass catching positions would demand it.

Not to mention what a fresh start and opportunity can do for a guy.

 

[iceberg]

And notice that all of Jacksonville's receivers are poor?

Ever wonder why that is?

Maybe all of the blame doesn't go solely on Matt Jones?

He led the team in receiving in 2006.

Despite a down year in 2007 where Del Rio deactivated him for several games, his overall production was better than that of Austin, Hurd, and Stanback combined.

the trouble is, you seem so "pro - jones" that any negatives you tend to wash away with any seemingly valid reason. i have no ties to matt at all. don't like him, don't hate him - he's just the color beige on a long beige wall to me. pretty generic.

he's a qb convert, a longshot experiment that didn't work. garrard is coming on and looking solid and the other wr's seem to improve but did jones?

24 receptions last year. 317 yards. led the team in 2006? with a whopping 643 yards? let me get back now lest i'm crush in the rush to get this guy.

that made them #24 in the league. i'm sure this props up "well how can they all be bad" so it must be the qb, but i find that convenient to an argument.

to me it looks like the turdbowl situation. maybe he was the shinest turd in the bowl that year but he was still a turd.

sorry man - i know you really like the kid, but i just don't see how can he can help us at this point.

 

[AbeBeta]

What has Matt Jones ever done to even warrant giving up a 7th round draft choice?

He grew to 6'6"?

 

[Stash]

the trouble is, you seem so "pro - jones" that any negatives you tend to wash away with any seemingly valid reason. i have no ties to matt at all. don't like him, don't hate him - he's just the color beige on a long beige wall to me. pretty generic.

I tend to think that I try to present both sides of the argument, both good and bad. I'm not guaranteeing Jones would flourish here, I'm just showing how he could. At the cost of a late round draft pick.

he's a qb convert, a longshot experiment that didn't work. garrard is coming on and looking solid and the other wr's seem to improve but did jones?

One that didn't work in Jacksonville. Plenty of other receivers haven't worked there either as of late. I wouldn't call a mediocre bunch 'improved'. I'm saying there's a pattern in Jacksonville and it doen't begin and end with Matt Jones.

24 receptions last year. 317 yards. led the team in 2006? with a whopping 643 yards? let me get back now lest i'm crush in the rush to get this guy.

Again, it's Jacksonville we're talking about here. He led the team despite few starting opportunities. Those numbers are still better than Hurd, Austin, or Stanback's. And despite leading the team in receiving in 2006, somehow that doesn't get him a starting role. That strikes me as a bit on an agenda there.

that made them #24 in the league. i'm sure this props up "well how can they all be bad" so it must be the qb, but i find that convenient to an argument.

I'm not placing blame on the quarterback, but more on the schemes and the coaching (or lack thereof) that the receivers are getting. When it's just one guy, blame him, when it's all of them, look at the team.

to me it looks like the turdbowl situation. maybe he was the shinest turd in the bowl that year but he was still a turd.

sorry man - i know you really like the kid, but i just don't see how can he can help us at this point.

If that's the term you'd prefer, he still shines brighter than the 'turds' the Cowboys have behind Owens and Crayton.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

He has a lot more TDs, receptions and yards than Hurd and Austin combined.

He should. Most of the time when he does actually play he's the #2 WR while Hurd and Austin are the 3rd and 4th recievers, at best, for Dallas and have to watch the majority of the balls go to TO, Crayton, and Witten.

There is nothing in his 3 years in the league to make me believe that Jones is worth wasting money, and a roster spot, on unless you're simply taking him to be the #4 reciever instead of Hurd or Austin or Stanback.

 

[Stash]

He should. Most of the time when he does actually play he's the #2 WR while Hurd and Austin are the 3rd and 4th recievers, at best, for Dallas and have to watch the majority of the balls go to TO, Crayton, and Witten.

So he's Jacksonville's '#2 receiver', yet he's not better than Austin and Hurd? Yeah, that makes sense. Which is it?

Miles Austin has 5 freakin' career catches! Yet somehow because he plays for the Cowboys, he's irreplacable....

There is nothing in his 3 years in the league to make me believe that Jones is worth wasting money, and a roster spot, on unless you're simply taking him to be the #4 reciever instead of Hurd or Austin or Stanback.

#4?

Please let me know who #'s 1-3 are?

 

[AbeBeta]

24 receptions last year. 317 yards. led the team in 2006? with a whopping 643 yards? let me get back now lest i'm crush in the rush to get this guy.

to be fair, Jax throws the ball like never.

They were 20th, 29th, and 27th in pass attempts over Jones' three years there.

Their #1 WR last year caught 45 balls last year. Their top yardage guy last year had 629 yards.

I'm not saying he's great but the stat you present really need some context. You know, context, right?

 

[iceberg]

If that's the term you'd prefer, he still shines brighter than the 'turds' the Cowboys have behind Owens and Crayton.

the trouble is, the "turds" behind owens and crayton *do have* valid WRs in front of them and a TE jacksonville can't sniff in witten. you're giving jones limited stardom to show what he can do with other average wr's then compare him to our "turds" who have legit talent far in front of them prohibiting their opportunities.

stanback, austin, hurd, now our version of welker out there - we have valid competition here and i don't see room for a flyer on a "gamble" when we have in essense 3 already. is matt jones better than stanback, hurd and austin?

we don't know, we can only go with a gut feeling really. my gut says if you can't stand out on a poor team (and they have gotten a lot better, hence they're cutting players who they feel can't help them) you'll have a hard time standing out on a team of stars.

if we make a move for WR i would think it would be for a top flight one that's proven themselves on the field with more than hope and excuses. otherwise we stick with the "turds" we know vs. lobbing more turds on the wall.

 

[Stash]

to be fair, Jax throws the ball like never.

They were 20th, 29th, and 27th in pass attempts over Jones' three years there.

Their #1 WR last year caught 45 balls last year. Their top yardage guy last year had 629 yards.

I'm not saying he's great but the stat you present really need some context. You know, context, right?

Thank you for that sane contribution.

It seems that it's a foreign concept in some debates.

Again, if it were just Matt Jones underachieving, it's all on him.

But that's not the case.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I'm not real fond of adding a gutless and heartless player to a team that can't win a playoff game because they lack guts and heart. #4 and #5 WR's need to contribute on special teams to earn a roster spot. Has Jones ever contributed on special teams, or is there too much physical contact and other "yucky football stuff" involved?

 

[iceberg]

to be fair, Jax throws the ball like never.

They were 20th, 29th, and 27th in pass attempts over Jones' three years there.

Their #1 WR last year caught 45 balls last year. Their top yardage guy last year had 629 yards.

I'm not saying he's great but the stat you present really need some context. You know, context, right?

i'm not saying this isn't a valid point. it is. but maybe there's a reason they don't throw more. all the qb? garrard after a year and a half stepped up and did nicely and got his payday. so their qb is coming along now they would tend to focus on WRs. if jacksonville felt their use of the run was prohibitive to their WR growth, then simply throw more now. if they're going to cut jones then to me that speaks volumes of his "potential" on a team that could use some good WRs out there.

i just don't see it working here but we all have our dream players we'd love to see as cowboys and that's part of it too.

 

[iceberg]

Thank you for that sane contribution.

It seems that it's a foreign concept in some debates.

Again, if it were just Matt Jones underachieving, it's all on him.

But that's not the case.

is it sane because it is or because it's pro - jones? am i insane because i don't think a converted well to WR and wouldn't help us?

then i'm not sane. fine. while you didn't say it directly, i don't feel jones did anything to warrant the hype now. i'll walk over to that crowd of my own free will. we'll see what happens w/matt jones and let the people who do this for a living make the call and go from there. sanity need not apply.

 

[AbeBeta]

i'm not saying this isn't a valid point. it is. but maybe there's a reason they don't throw more. all the qb? garrard after a year and a half stepped up and did nicely and got his payday. so their qb is coming along now they would tend to focus on WRs. if jacksonville felt their use of the run was prohibitive to their WR growth, then simply throw more now. if they're going to cut jones then to me that speaks volumes of his "potential" on a team that could use some good WRs out there.

i just don't see it working here but we all have our dream players we'd love to see as cowboys and that's part of it too.

There are two reasons they don't throw more. Fred Taylor and Maurice Jones-Drew. If your RBs pair to give you 2000+ yards then you really don't need to throw.

 

[Stash]

the trouble is, the "turds" behind owens and crayton *do have* valid WRs in front of them and a TE jacksonville can't sniff in witten. you're giving jones limited stardom to show what he can do with other average wr's then compare him to our "turds" who have legit talent far in front of them prohibiting their opportunities.

stanback, austin, hurd, now our version of welker out there - we have valid competition here and i don't see room for a flyer on a "gamble" when we have in essense 3 already. is matt jones better than stanback, hurd and austin?

we don't know, we can only go with a gut feeling really. my gut says if you can't stand out on a poor team (and they have gotten a lot better, hence they're cutting players who they feel can't help them) you'll have a hard time standing out on a team of stars.

His numbers say he is. Though not what Jacksonville had hoped for when they reached for him.

My gut tells me that there's more to Jacksnoville's problems at receiver than Matt Jones.

if we make a move for WR i would think it would be for a top flight one that's proven themselves on the field with more than hope and excuses. otherwise we stick with the "turds" we know vs. lobbing more turds on the wall.

I would have no problem with that - if one were actually available. But as it now stands, they're not. And from all indications Matt Jones is.

Again, I think calling Jones a 'turd' is not only harsh, but it's also misinformed and inaccurate.

Despite any questions about him, his numbers clearly show that he's better at this point than Hurd, Austin, or Stanback.

And to me that shows that he would be an improvement for this team.

 

[Stash]

I'm not real fond of adding a gutless and heartless player to a team that can't win a playoff game because they lack guts and heart. #4 and #5 WR's need to contribute on special teams to earn a roster spot. Has Jones ever contributed on special teams, or is there too much physical contact and other "yucky football stuff" involved?

Again, I would ask, who are receivers 1-3 on this team?

 

[Gryphon]

Source: RotoTimes.com

Troy Williamson, WR Thursday 5/29, 11:10 AM CT

Troy Williamson fell out of favor in Minnesota due to poor concentration and frequent dropped passes, but he is reportedly holding on to the ball so far during the Jaguars' OTA sessions, according to Jaguars.com. He isn't impressing the team or flashing big-play potential, but his hands have seemingly improved.

Our View: He was a high first-round draft pick and has good size and speed to develop into an elite NFL receiver, but still has a long way to go to prove himself worthy of a solid role in Jacksonville.

Jerry Porter, WR Thursday 5/29, 7:51 AM CT

Jaguars.com senior editor Vince Ketchman advises that contrary to previous reports, wide receiver Jerry Porter has a hamstring pull, which caused him to miss some practice time in the recent organized team activities. There were reports surfacing that Porter had ankle, knee and achilles injuries.

Our View: At this time of the year, coaching staffs tend to err on the side of caution, so we aren’t too concerned about this situation at this early stage of the offseason.

 

[Stash]

is it sane because it is or because it's pro - jones? am i insane because i don't think a converted well to WR and wouldn't help us?

then i'm not sane. fine. while you didn't say it directly, i don't feel jones did anything to warrant the hype now. i'll walk over to that crowd of my own free will. we'll see what happens w/matt jones and let the people who do this for a living make the call and go from there. sanity need not apply.

Sorry if that came of as attacking or insulting, that wasn't my intent.

I apologize if it seemed that way.

I guess it's frustration due to some merely writing this guy off and not looking at the entire picture.

It's fine if someone is against trading for him. I can understand that. I only ask that someone take a look at the complete picture before they make up their mind.

Again, sorry if my post seemed to be attacking. That wasn't the intent.