Adarius Bowman...

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.....had a nice looking TD grab for the Saskatchewan Roughriders the other day. :confused:
 

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cowboyfan4life_mark;2118383 said:
Has anyone heard of why none of the 32 NFL teams even considered him as a UDFA?

Even more :confused: .
He was dismissed from the North Carolina because of marijuana. Then he was caught a few weeks before the draft with marijuana.

If he tears it up in the CFL, he'll likely be in the NFL next season, though.
 

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theogt;2118388 said:
He was dismissed from the North Carolina because of marijuana. Then he was caught a few weeks before the draft with marijuana.

If he tears it up in the CFL, he'll likely be in the NFL next season, though.

North Carolina?

Oklahoma.
 

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cowboyfan4life_mark;2118391 said:
North Carolina?

Oklahoma.
He started his collegiate career at North Carolina. After being dismissed he attended Oklahoma State.
 

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theogt;2118388 said:
He was dismissed from the North Carolina because of marijuana. Then he was caught a few weeks before the draft with marijuana.

If he tears it up in the CFL, he'll likely be in the NFL next season, though.

I don't believe he went to N.C.
 

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links18;2118380 said:
.....had a nice looking TD grab for the Saskatchewan Roughriders the other day. :confused:

...the field is 65 yards wide.

The biggest thing for receivers is gaining separation. In Canada any WR worth their salt can accomplish this. It's not a true indication of ability.

With the exception of Joe Horn, I can't recall another WR in the last (10) yrs who has come out of the CFL and found success at the NFL level.

CFL receivers tend to have sloppy patterns and are challenged to get in and out of their cuts to gain separation on a smaller NFL field. Up here there is very little press coverage due to the size of the field.

Doesn't take much to be "all world" with little press coverage and a field 110 by 65 yards with 25 yard endzones.

Not to mention the Roughriders do not have a very strong track record and monitoring program for players on it's roster. It doesn't take much to get in trouble in Regina.

For Bowman he's going to have to put alot of hard work and self discipline in to get back to the NFL.
 

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theogt;2118388 said:
If he tears it up in the CFL, he'll likely be in the NFL next season, though.

...a good indication of his ability to play WR in the NFL. Tucker was tearing up the league here in Canada and never got back.

Marc Boerigter also was burning up the field and never did much with the Broncos before running back to Canada.

WR is a big leap from CFL to NFL. The more plausible possibility is punter or place kicker.
 

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davidyee;2118426 said:
...a good indication of his ability to play WR in the NFL. Tucker was tearing up the league here in Canada and never got back.

Marc Boerigter also was burning up the field and never did much with the Broncos before running back to Canada.

WR is a big leap from CFL to NFL. The more plausible possibility is punter or place kicker.
Yeah, but this guy had a ton of potential coming out of college. He was almost a lock as a first rounder until he was injured and had a poor offseason. If he tears it up, it'll be viewed as just more evidence of his abilities. It may take more than a year, but I'm sure someone will eventually overlook his past transgressions.
 

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CrazyCowboy;2118404 said:
I don't believe he went to N.C.


Its been widely known he transferred to OK. State after being dismissed from North Carolina due to the Marijuana arrest.


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Adarius Bowman is a classic case of a player making the most of a second chance.


The former University of North Carolina prospect transferred to Oklahoma State after he was dismissed by the UNC staff due to an off-field incident. He chose the Cowboys to be reunited with the position coach who had recruited him at UNC, Gunter Brewer, son of former Mississippi head coach, Billy Brewer.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/adarius-bowman?id=194
 

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theogt;2118431 said:
Yeah, but this guy had a ton of potential coming out of college. He was almost a lock as a first rounder until he was injured and had a poor offseason. If he tears it up, it'll be viewed as just more evidence of his abilities. It may take more than a year, but I'm sure someone will eventually overlook his past transgressions.

...won't be a good indication that he's a good NFL receiver. There has been others with great CFL stats and physical measurables who have had trouble in the NFL.

Add to Bowman's situation of the mental aspect (ie. mary jane) and it's a more difficult hill for him to climb.

It's not impossible. but given what has happened in the past and the numerous posts about how much it takes to adjust the being an NFL WR the odds aren't in his favour. He will be playing in a wide open field with less press coverage than even the US college game.

Not good odds. Especially since there is criticism over his maturity due to alleged drug use before the combine.
 

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davidyee;2118455 said:
...won't be a good indication that he's a good NFL receiver. There has been others with great CFL stats and physical measurables who have had trouble in the NFL.

Add to Bowman's situation of the mental aspect (ie. mary jane) and it's a more difficult hill for him to climb.

It's not impossible. but given what has happened in the past and the numerous posts about how much it takes to adjust the being an NFL WR the odds aren't in his favour. He will be playing in a wide open field with less press coverage than even the US college game.

Not good odds. Especially since there is criticism over his maturity due to alleged drug use before the combine.
I disagree to an extent. Performing will in the CFL in and of itself isn't necessarily a sign of a good player. But, if you're an NFL caliber player, you certainly should perform well in the CFL. Thus, for those that believed that Bowman was a good player coming out of college (and I'm sure all 32 teams did think he was worthy of at least a 1st day pick based on talent alone), it would be viewed as evidence of his abilities.
 

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theogt;2118460 said:
I disagree to an extent. Performing will in the CFL in and of itself isn't necessarily a sign of a good player. But, if you're an NFL caliber player, you certainly should perform well in the CFL. Thus, for those that believed that Bowman was a good player coming out of college (and I'm sure all 32 teams did think he was worthy of at least a 1st day pick based on talent alone), it would be viewed as evidence of his abilities.


I agree with that. If DeMarcus Ware went and played in canada he would definately do very well... but he would still be a star in the NFL.

If Bowman does have NFL ability, his first step in getting there has to be to dominate in canada.
 

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davidyee;2118424 said:
...the field is 65 yards wide.

The biggest thing for receivers is gaining separation. In Canada any WR worth their salt can accomplish this. It's not a true indication of ability.

With the exception of Joe Horn, I can't recall another WR in the last (10) yrs who has come out of the CFL and found success at the NFL level.

CFL receivers tend to have sloppy patterns and are challenged to get in and out of their cuts to gain separation on a smaller NFL field. Up here there is very little press coverage due to the size of the field.

Doesn't take much to be "all world" with little press coverage and a field 110 by 65 yards with 25 yard endzones.

Not to mention the Roughriders do not have a very strong track record and monitoring program for players on it's roster. It doesn't take much to get in trouble in Regina.

For Bowman he's going to have to put alot of hard work and self discipline in to get back to the NFL.


OK, I only caught the clip for a second, but it looked like a very tough grab in traffic, not something that resulted from soft coverage or the wider field. At any rate, it is still a mystery to me, even with the knuckle headedness, that not a single NFL team took an UDFA flyer on a WR who supposedly had 1st day talent. What does it say that the CFL was willing to take a chance on this guy, while the NFL wasn't? A more liberal attitude towards marijuana in Canada?

Ah yes, Jason Tucker and Chris Brazell; if nothing else at least we had 2 WRs from the Chan Gailey era that eventually went on to dominate, albeit north of the border!:laugh1:
 

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AsthmaField;2118465 said:
If Bowman does have NFL ability, his first step in getting there has to be to dominate in canada.
Getting and staying clean wouldn't hurt either.
 

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Ah a Chris "Razzle" Brazzell mention! He sure was fun to watch here at Angelo State!
 

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davidyee;2118424 said:
...the field is 65 yards wide.

The biggest thing for receivers is gaining separation. In Canada any WR worth their salt can accomplish this. It's not a true indication of ability.

With the exception of Joe Horn, I can't recall another WR in the last (10) yrs who has come out of the CFL and found success at the NFL level.

CFL receivers tend to have sloppy patterns and are challenged to get in and out of their cuts to gain separation on a smaller NFL field. Up here there is very little press coverage due to the size of the field.

Doesn't take much to be "all world" with little press coverage and a field 110 by 65 yards with 25 yard endzones.

Not to mention the Roughriders do not have a very strong track record and monitoring program for players on it's roster. It doesn't take much to get in trouble in Regina.

For Bowman he's going to have to put alot of hard work and self discipline in to get back to the NFL.

Have you been to Regina? It's not exactly "the Hood". Maybe Bowman 's going to whoop it up at the Curling Rink! ;)
 

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I promise not to do this all season, but Bowman had another sweet TD grab for the Roughriders yesterday.
 

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Phrozen Phil;2119604 said:
Have you been to Regina? It's not exactly "the Hood". Maybe Bowman 's going to whoop it up at the Curling Rink! ;)

...notorious dealings on Victoria Ave.

Remember the Rider who was jailed for infecting various women with AIDS?

I've seen alot of them at bars over the years in Regina. Let's wait on Bowman.
 
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