Adrian Peterson Sweepstakes ***Officially reinstated (again) and merged***

[Silver N Blue]

What I would like to see is more of the 'con' side make the effort to clearly define their positions rather than dealing in vague terms.

Well stash...after 124 pages I don't think there is much hope in that ^^^

 

[dallasdave]

Several reports have surfaced he is in excellent shape...when has AD never been in shape....the most recent report came from Alfred Blue last week who is training with him this offseason....stating..AD is in excellent shape and he would not want to be in his way...as for big contract..not one of the supporters on this thread have stated we support a big contract and it has not been reported anywhere that is what he is seeking....the only financial terms reported came from his agent and that statement included a willingness to rework his current deal IF traded. Sounds to me there is a willingness on the AD team to take less money for the right situation.

Well stated and well said, stay thirsty my friend.

 

[dallasdave]

What I would like to see is more of the 'con' side make the effort to clearly define their positions rather than dealing in vague terms.

Well stash...after 124 pages I don't think there is much hope in that ^^^

You said it, the cons are vague and in the dark.

 

[esloan]

What I would like to see is more of the 'con' side make the effort to clearly define their positions rather than dealing in vague terms.

Well stash...after 124 pages I don't think there is much hope in that ^^^

My position has been clear from the start. I do not want Peterson here unless he comes cheap. As in, $5-6 million a year and nothing higher than a third round draft pick. If he comes here under those conditions I will be happy to have him. If not, I fear that it hurts us more than helps.

 

[phildadon86]

Yes. I think it was worse in some ways. What Brent did was horrible, no doubt, but he did what thousands of people do nightly and drive after drinking too much. In addition, the person he killed also drank too much and chose to get in the car with him. It resulted in his death. It was bad but it was an accident.

What Peterson did was intentional. He beat a child so badly that marks were still present over two weeks after the beating. In addition, the child claims he punched him in the face, though that was not proven in court due to him pleading no contest.

So, yeah, I think what Peterson did was worse. It was intentional and it was to his own child.

As someone with experience in this matter. Let me start out by saying getting into a car drunk is just as intentional as hitting your child. How you can literally compare death and hitting your child as even acts is beyond me. Keep trying to prove your point. You won't.

 

[dallasdave]

Shot through the heart.

 

[KalEl]

My position has been clear from the start. I do not want Peterson here unless he comes cheap. As in, $5-6 million a year and nothing higher than a third round draft pick. If he comes here under those conditions I will be happy to have him. If not, I fear that it hurts us more than helps.

Right and murder isn't as bad as child abuse. We got it.

 

[spook930]

I don't see anything wrong with a player wanting out of a situation esp if he feel he wasn't treated right. A team can cut or trade players as they want right? They both agreed to the contract right? Why does one side get to do as they please? You can't really say AP is wrong for wanting out of minny because we will never know the full story. I get where people are coming from with it getting out of hand but I don't see the AP situation as wrong.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

We'll see how it plays out. But, giving it more consideration, I don't think AP is leaving Minnesota unless someone blows them out of the park with a trade scenario they can't refuse or if they ask for a first and get a first or get something close to what they're looking for.

I think they take best offer. I don't think he will play for them again.

 

[KalEl]

This is pretty pathetic that the argument now for not wanting AD is because of what he did in the past. The man made a mistake doesn't he deserve a second chance? He who is without sin cast the first stone!

Also, esloan to imply that what he did was worse than what Brent did is border line insane. Brent ended a life, ended a mans life!! He also could have ended several others when he became a weapon behind the wheel. What AD did was despicable, disgusting, and in excusable, but in no way shape or form the same thing or worse than what Brent did.

 

[Silver N Blue]

My position has been clear from the start. I do not want Peterson here unless he comes cheap. As in, $5-6 million a year and nothing higher than a third round draft pick. If he comes here under those conditions I will be happy to have him. If not, I fear that it hurts us more than helps.

I have been with Stash on this for a long time...cheap to me to have the best RB in the NFL would be 3 years and 25 million with 12-14 of that guareented. I am also on record being fine with 3 rd draft pick and trading Carr in the deal. However if it is more than that I will still be thrilled to watch AD play every Sunday. At this point he just belongs here.

 

[superonyx]

I think they take best offer. I don't think he will play for them again.

It's looking like that. The reports are now that 6 teams are interested including the Cowboys.....
It sounds like the Vikings may be waiting until draft day after Gurley and Gordon are off the board. They feel teams will pay more once the draft only has committee type backs left on the board....however this mean the Vikings will be replacing Peterson with a 2nd tier back....

These guys are going to force me to watch the draft it seems....crap...

 

[Stash]

It's looking like that. The reports are now that 6 teams are interested including the Cowboys.....
It sounds like the Vikings may be waiting until draft day after Gurley and Gordon are off the board. They feel teams will pay more once the draft only has committee type backs left on the board....however this mean the Vikings will be replacing Peterson with a 2nd tier back....

These guys are going to force me to watch the draft it seems....crap...

I would think that a deal has to get done while the Vikings are on the clock at pick #11. At that point, they would be in the best position to deal Peterson while knowing who is available to replace him.

If Gurley makes it to pick #11, they could deal Peterson and draft his replacement within a 10-minute span.

 

[KalEl]

No way would I give them a pick and Carr. That's ridiculous. They aren't getting that much for AD. They have everything to lose. The clock is ticking for Minny. They have 10 days to move him after that they'll get absolutely nothing for him.

 

[tyke1doe]

I think they take best offer. I don't think he will play for them again.

You may be right. But I think they'd ship him off to an AFC team before they'd trade him to Dallas or Arizona.
If I'm being perfectly honest, and I were the owner or in the Vikings front office, I dang sure aint trading Peterson to Dallas or Arizona unless we're talking first round picks or two seconds and maybe a third thrown in. No way, I'm going to give either of those teams the final piece to a Super Bowl run. And if I had $13 million to spare, I'd probably let him sit. But he's not playing unless he plays with my team or unless someone is willing to pay up.

And stubborn as some of the posters here come across, I'm pretty convinced they'd do the same thing.

 

[Stash]

It seems like some of us are in good company:

http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sports/...s-i-think-we-ll-be-back-in-the-super-bowl.ece

 

[superonyx]

I would think that a deal has to get done while the Vikings are on the clock at pick #11. At that point, they would be in the best position to deal Peterson while knowing who is available to replace him.

If Gurley makes it to pick #11, they could deal Peterson and draft his replacement within a 10-minute span.

So it sounds like Gurley has no chance to end up in Dallas then? If we don't get AP I would want Gurley as the consolidation prize........
I keep thinking back to Romo on Jimmy Kimmell saying how he was making a case for Demarco....I believe that tells me the Cowboys won't go into next season with a late round running back and a group of underachievers....

 

[Stash]

You may be right. But I think they'd ship him off to an AFC team before they'd trade him to Dallas or Arizona.
If I'm being perfectly honest, and I were the owner or in the Vikings front office, I dang sure aint trading Peterson to Dallas or Arizona unless we're talking first round picks or two seconds and maybe a third thrown in. No way, I'm going to give either of those teams the final piece to a Super Bowl run. And if I had $13 million to spare, I'd probably let him sit. But he's not playing unless he plays with my team or unless someone is willing to pay up.

And stubborn as some of the posters here come across, I'm pretty convinced they'd do the same thing.

I would just like to point out the situation involving Andre Johnson and the Texans a year ago.

Johnson wanted out and the Texans wouldn't (or couldn't) trade him. They go through a season winning nothing, and release Johnson a year later - getting nothing in compensation.

After his release, Johnson went and signed with the division champ Colts within a week.

If the Vikings want to be stubborn, they can do the same.

And then they can look at paying Peterson even more money when he's a year older next year, or cut him and get nothing in compensation.

 

[Stash]

So it sounds like Gurley has no chance to end up in Dallas then? If we don't get AP I would want Gurley as the consolidation prize........

At this point, with his knee checking out fine? I can't see any way he last until #27.

I keep thinking back to Romo on Jimmy Kimmell saying how he was making a case for Demarco....I believe that tells me the Cowboys won't go into next season with a late round running back and a group of underachievers....

I can't see it either.

 

[dallasdave]

I think they take best offer. I don't think he will play for them again.

Peterson is not playing for Vikings again, sort of like that old song "Done Gone".