After 5 Games, How Confident Are You in Garrett?

[jnday]

Love him. Thanks for checking in again.

Yeah, but your expectations are not as high as most fans lol. 8-8 makes you happy every year.

 

[Idgit]

Love on a scale of 1-10?

As I stated in the first thread, the purpose of having more than one is to gauge his progress in confidence throughout the season, since it is a process and all.

Is this a continuation of that thread where you told us how your confidence went from a 2 to a 3 or whatever, because we won a game in the preseason or something?

Confidence is kind of a binary thing, either you are, or you aren't. Is a '6' on a confidence scale actually confidence? It's really just a measure of your relative uncertainty. He's a good coach, and he's doing a good job under difficult circumstances. Our problems aren't with coaching.

 

[Idgit]

Yeah, but your expectations are not as high as most fans lol. 8-8 makes you happy every year.

It doesn't.

I'm capable of understanding the reasons why we go 8-8, though. And I'm not so much in favor of changing things that aren't broken just because my unrealistic expectations aren't met.

 

[Zordon]

the process is stuck in neutral....3 years in.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Is this a continuation of that thread where you told us how your confidence went from a 2 to a 3 or whatever, because we won a game in the preseason or something?

Confidence is kind of a binary thing, either you are, or you aren't. Is a '6' on a confidence scale actually confidence? It's really just a measure of your relative uncertainty. He's a good coach, and he's doing a good job under difficult circumstances. Our problems aren't with coaching.

I don't buy your dichotomy. I've never been a fan of false dilemmas.

I would disagree. I think it all comes down to coaching. To me it's the minor things that end up making a big difference.

But, hey, you're confident in Garrett. I guess you're stuck with being "confident" in Garrett and in denial about what our problems are until he's gone or enough time passes where you can distance yourself from that confidence.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Is this a continuation of that thread where you told us how your confidence went from a 2 to a 3 or whatever, because we won a game in the preseason or something?

Such a great thread.. lol.

 

[jnday]

It doesn't.

I'm capable of understanding the reasons why we go 8-8, though. And I'm not so much in favor of changing things that aren't broken just because my unrealistic expectations aren't met.

I don't think it is unrealistic to expect an improvement in the number of wins. I don't think moral victories are a sign of improvement and in year three of a three year plan, I think it is very realistic to expect better results. It is good you understand the reasons that this is an average team, but it seems to me that you would want the reason for the average teams held accountable. Garrett is the head coach and he is where the buck stops when it comes to failures on the field that he has direct control over. How many more average seasons will you be willing to understand?

 

[Idgit]

I don't buy your dichotomy. I've never been a fan of false dilemmas.

I would disagree. I think it all comes down to coaching. To me it's the minor things that end up making a big difference.

But, hey, you're confident in Garrett. I guess you're stuck with being "confident" in Garrett and in denial about what our problems are until he's gone or enough time passes where you can distance yourself from that confidence.

This post makes it clear that you're really not checking up on anything at all. This is a poorly disguised complain-some-more-about-the-head-coach thread. Which is fine, if that's your thing. Just be honest about it.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

For the record, I'm at around a 2..

lol

Noted. Thanks so much for the rehash.

 

[Tricericon]

You ask this question all the time. The people that never liked the hire like me are going to have the same answer, which is not much. The people waving pom poms are going to gonna say it's a process. Same ole, same ole.

I liked the hire at the time, but I have not liked what I have seen since then. Too many games given away, due to (ironically) bad process.

My opinion has been stable in that respect for a couple years now.

 

[Idgit]

I don't think it is unrealistic to expect an improvement in the number of wins. I don't think moral victories are a sign of improvement and in year three of a three year plan, I think it is very realistic to expect better results. It is good you understand the reasons that this is an average team, but it seems to me that you would want the reason for the average teams held accountable. Garrett is the head coach and he is where the buck stops when it comes to failures on the field that he has direct control over. How many more average seasons will you be willing to understand?

I don't disagree with any of this. And I think the team needs to perform this season. And I expect it's going to.

The NFL is about wins. If Garrett can't win, he'll be let go. But he's right that it *has* been a process. And we had significant work to do from the point he took over to the point we're at now. Not all 8-8 seasons are equal; this team has gotten better over the last three years.

 

[Idgit]

Such a great thread.. lol.

It *was* pretty impressive.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

On a serious note.. we're about to be 3-0 in our division. Make sure you check in again in 2 weeks.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

On a serious note.. we're about to be 3-0 in our division. Make sure you check in again in 2 weeks.

Promise?

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

This post makes it clear that you're really not checking up on anything at all. This is a poorly disguised complain-some-more-about-the-head-coach thread. Which is fine, if that's your thing. Just be honest about it.

Once again, you're off-base. I really want to be more confident. I hope that after 10-12 games that I have come around. I made some progress, but that was stifled. Will I ever be confident? I hope so. But I just don't think it's in the cards. I don't think JG is playing with a full deck.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Is this a continuation of that thread where you told us how your confidence went from a 2 to a 3 or whatever, because we won a game in the preseason or something?

Confidence is kind of a binary thing, either you are, or you aren't. Is a '6' on a confidence scale actually confidence? It's really just a measure of your relative uncertainty. He's a good coach, and he's doing a good job under difficult circumstances. Our problems aren't with coaching.

..he did have us looking pretty good in the preseason. You gotta give him that much.

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

I think I'll have a better idea over the next few weeks.

If we take that aggressiveness we used against the Broncos into the next few games and come out ahead in most of them, my confidence will go up significantly.

If not? We're in for more mediocrity and it'll be time for him to go.

 

[Picksix]

If we win tomorrow, we're a .500 team. That's "if" (I think we can). I still don't see how he serves us better than any number of decent coaches out there. What does he bring that others wouldn't? I've yet to see that.

What I have seen is that he isn't prepared, himself, in games where having an experienced, prepared coach can be the difference in a win or loss. He's not thinking ahead, he's not trying to eliminate potential mistakes before they happen and he's definitely not running the ball with any consistency, which has been a problem for a long time.

I think that chances are, better than not, he won't be coaching in Dallas next year.

I like Garrett, but I try to ask myself how I would feel about him if I weren't a Cowboys fan. I'd probably feel like he was a decent head coach, but nothing really special. So to answer your question, at this point I'd give him a 6.

 

[kevm3]

You have got to wonder why we are not one of those 'bust-out teams'. Every year we lose to some team that eventually stands out and gets over the hump to their mediocrity, but never us. San Francisco, Seattle, and now Kansas City. I like Garrett's drafting process because we are stacked with talent, but the team never has the discipline for BOTH sides of the ball to play well together except on rare occasion like the Rams game.

Honestly, I could see Garrett being better in a GM, talent evaluating role than anything. He's too inexperienced as a coach in the NFL, but he seems to know how to get talent.

 

[Mansta54]

Love the guy and have much confidence in him.