After cuts and restructures, how much Cap room can we have left?

[Common Sense]

He's not a liability though. Bring back Waters, if not draft a guard. Free and Parnell are good. Bern can backup guard and center, TFred and TSmith are anchors.

Bernie will count over $4 million against next year's cap. He'll either restructure to remain the starting RG (yeah, yeah, I know...) or be released. If the team brings back Waters or a similar vet free agent guard, Bernie is done in Dallas.

 

[TwentyOne]

They can easily get under the cap in 2014 and have room to sign some free agents.

I dont see it the way you do but then i havent put up the work myself to work out a restructuring/cutting strategy.

But even if you a rigth and we could get under the cap that far that we could sign some FAs. To me the most common mistake is to think to be under the cap means you are able to sign players. But thats not the case.

Even if you are under the cap you are in competition with others. The question is not how much money you can spend related to cap space. The question is how much money you can spend related to other possible buyers. And here we are constantly in a disadvantage because of our bad cap management. We are not competitive when it comes to buying expensive FAs.

 

[xwalker]

Bernie will count over $4 million against next year's cap. He'll either restructure to remain the starting RG (yeah, yeah, I know...) or be released. If the team brings back Waters or a similar vet free agent guard, Bernie is done in Dallas.

Only 2.75M of that is his 2014 salary. The remaining amount has already been paid. The Cowboys have paid backups similar money in the past. Montrae Holland and Marcus Spears both got over 2M as backups some years.

 

[xwalker]

I dont see it the way you do but then i havent put up the work myself to work out a restructuring/cutting strategy.

But even if you a rigth and we could get under the cap that far that we could sign some FAs. To me the most common mistake is to think to be under the cap means you are able to sign players. But thats not the case.

Even if you are under the cap you are in competition with others. The question is not how much money you can spend related to cap space. The question is how much money you can spend related to other possible buyers. And here we are constantly in a disadvantage because of our bad cap management. We are not competitive when it comes to buying expensive FAs.

That is not correct. I don't know why you have an opinion on cap issues if you have not analyzed the cap issues.

 

[TwentyOne]

That is not correct. I don't know why you have an opinion on cap issues if you have not analyzed the cap issues.

I didnt say i havent analyzed it. I have said that i did not work out a plan to get us under the cap. thats a big difference. knowing the problem doesnt mean you know how to solve it.

But i do listen to other writers and stephen also admitted we are in a tight cap situation this year. so even without analyzing our siutation i can have an opinion regarding our situation. wether my opinion is correct is something else.

But please be more specific about what of my post you think is not correct. I had a few points not only one.

 

[Common Sense]

Only 2.75M of that is his 2014 salary. The remaining amount has already been paid. The Cowboys have paid backups similar money in the past. Montrae Holland and Marcus Spears both got over 2M as backups some years.

Wait, isn't there some restructured money from this year on top of that?

 

[TheFinisher]

This team is cap hell from pushing all that money back in those restructures. We couldn't do anything in FA last year and won't this year because of bad contracts. Bet the house on a group of aging losers.

 

[TwentyOne]

Wait, isn't there some restructured money from this year on top of that?

yep. his base salary will be 2.7 mils in 2014. on top of that comes a 812k sb plus 511k from restructuring in 2013. thats a cap hit of 4mils in 2014.

if you cut him we'll have to take all of his sb and all of his rb. that would be 2.6mils in 2014.

if you'd restructure him to - say the vet min (8xxk) - then youd have to account the new resturcturing bonus into the cap amount. say we'd restructure him again over 3 years we could save 1.9 mils form his base salary but have to add another 650k to his cap hit. so we would save 1.2mils = 1.4 cap hit. on the backside cutting him in 2015 would be again more difficult.

 

[T-RO]

don't need to. The fact that you claim to know more is all anyone needs to know. You do realize most of us are laughing AT you, right?

I agree with burmafrd. We are laughing at you, bkight13. You haven't done your homework, have no regard for the teeth in the cap, and are making ridiculous claims.

 

[Nightman]

I agree with burmafrd. We are laughing at you, bkight13. You haven't done your homework, have no regard for the teeth in the cap, and are making ridiculous claims.

Wow another cap genius calling me out. I already dumbed it down for you guys. It's simple math and I don't feel like wasting my time to show you my homework.

 

[xwalker]

Wait, isn't there some restructured money from this year on top of that?

The difference between the 2.75M salary and the 4M cap hit comes from a combination of his prorated signing bonus and prorated restructure bonus.

His cap his is 4M to keep or 2.65M if cut. They only save 1.425M on the cap if he is cut. That's a trivial amount for a guy that has been playing well for the 2nd half of the season.

 

[Alexander]

We aren't going to be players in the market next off season.

Correct. It will be like it has been the last few years.

All kinds of cooking the books and shuffling money. By the time it is all said and done, there will be a few lower tier free agents coming on. But there is absolutely no possible way they will be able to be players in the market immediately when it opens.

 

[Nightman]

Correct. It will be like it has been the last few years.

All kinds of cooking the books and shuffling money. By the time it is all said and done, there will be a few lower tier free agents coming on. But there is absolutely no possible way they will be able to be players in the market immediately when it opens.

That's just not correct. Dallas had money last year, but chose to give it to Spencer. That was 10.6m in cap space. The Romo extension took a little longer to create more space, but they didn't plan on a big spending spree anyways last year. They can easily get under the cap and have plenty of space to sign FAs if that is the direction they want to go. It appears they want to build through the draft and not have to rely on FA as much. They should focus on a guy like Melton early and then fill the other spots with value and draft picks.

 

[cowboys1981]

The difference between the 2.75M salary and the 4M cap hit comes from a combination of his prorated signing bonus and prorated restructure bonus.

His cap his is 4M to keep or 2.65M if cut. They only save 1.425M on the cap if he is cut. That's a trivial amount for a guy that has been playing well for the 2nd half of the season.

I'll ask you since you have done your homework. Would it better to NOT restructure Romo this season to avoid a big hit later in his contract?

 

[xwalker]

I'll ask you since you have done your homework. Would it better to NOT restructure Romo this season to avoid a big hit later in his contract?

That is not possible. They can't get under the cap without restructuring Romo. The NFL does not allow teams to only have 11 players under contract which is the only way they could avoid restructuring Romo.

 

[burmafrd]

Wow another cap genius calling me out. I already dumbed it down for you guys. It's simple math and I don't feel like wasting my time to show you my homework.

no you flat out pulled garbage out of your rear end and tried to sell it as steak. And that is why we are laughing at you.

 

[Nightman]

no you flat out pulled garbage out of your rear end and tried to sell it as steak. And that is why we are laughing at you.

I don't know you at all, so I don't know if being this obtuse is your schtick or if you are really this dense. Please ignore me if you have nothing to offer.