Signed by Cowboys Alfred Morris is Back

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Wow. Massive overreaction on this board.

Simple facts are these: Zeke will report by August 6, new contract or not. He can't become a free agent without accruing another season. If he fails to report by August 6, he doesn't get credit for an accrued season. If he sits, he doesn't get paid, and doesn't get any closer to being able to sign somewhere else as a free agent. Yes, his sitting out would hurt the team, but that would be a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face. He will play this season regardless of the outcome of this current "holdout". Meanwhile, he enjoys Cabo and misses the grind of pre-season practice and meetings.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT ZEKE. HE'LL BE THERE.

This Morris signing is not about Zeke. I think it is simply that the Cowboys have seen enough of Jackson, Weber, and Chunn to know that Morris is still better than any of them. And, I don't think this is a temporary training camp only signing. I think Morris is here for the season.

These actually are facts, but opinions and some incorrect info.

It's your opinion that he'll be there by the 6th, he might not be.

Zeke could sit this year out, play on his 5th year option the season after that pays out much more than this year and would then be a UFA after having 4 accrued seasons.
 

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Now that New Orleans has successfully got Dallas to panic, watch them sign Ajayi.

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And that same year, Ajayi averaged 5.8 yards per carry with Philadelphia. Oh and he won a Super Bowl too.

There's more of a market for Ajayi than for Alfred Morris.

Jay Ajayi is a better RB when healthy. However, he is not healthy. He tore his ACL for the 2nd time in October last year. He has degenerative knees which is why he dropped to the 5th round in the draft. There is no guarantee that Ajayi could last one game before his knees blew out again. Then we would be stuck without a veteran RB and a hit on our salary cap for a guy sitting on IR collecting a check. BTW, where is this market for Jay Ajayi right now? I don't see teams bringing him in for visits. His knees are scaring most teams away.
 

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Depends on the subject lmao
These actually are facts, but opinions and some incorrect info.

It's your opinion that he'll be there by the 6th, he might not be.

Zeke could sit this year out, play on his 5th year option the season after that pays out much more than this year and would then be a UFA after having 4 accrued seasons.
They can franchise tag after the 5th year option tho.
 

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that's very true. Zeke's agent clearly thinks he has the team over a barrel and doesn't understand business.
He understands it that the nfl has the worst contract structures for players than any professional league in the world. The nfl gives players literally zero control over financial security in the most violent sport in the world. And zeke plays a position that has the shortest career average. As of right now I would tell zeke to sit until he can sign a big deal.
 

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Jay Ajayi is a better RB when healthy. However, he is not healthy. He tore his ACL for the 2nd time in October last year. He has degenerative knees which is why he dropped to the 5th round in the draft. There is no guarantee that Ajayi could last one game before his knees blew out again. Then we would be stuck without a veteran RB and a hit on our salary cap for a guy sitting on IR collecting a check. BTW, where is this market for Jay Ajayi right now? I don't see teams bringing him in for visits. His knees are scaring most teams away.

I'd be shocked if we signed ajayi, it's a reason why they drafted Pollard in the 4th round and so high on him contributing
Jay is a spot player at this point and you never know when those shot knees goes south during season.
I dont think cowboys believe they are that deprived of capable backup bodies
 

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Jay Ajayi is a better RB when healthy. However, he is not healthy. He tore his ACL for the 2nd time in October last year. He has degenerative knees which is why he dropped to the 5th round in the draft. There is no guarantee that Ajayi could last one game before his knees blew out again. Then we would be stuck without a veteran RB and a hit on our salary cap for a guy sitting on IR collecting a check. BTW, where is this market for Jay Ajayi right now? I don't see teams bringing him in for visits. His knees are scaring most teams away.
Actually the Saints picked up Rob Kelley, formerly of the Commanders.

Something must really be wrong with Ajayi's knees if guys like Kelley are getting in line ahead of him.
 

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He understands it that the nfl has the worst contract structures for players than any professional league in the world. The nfl gives players literally zero control over financial security in the most violent sport in the world. And zeke plays a position that has the shortest career average. As of right now I would tell zeke to sit until he can sign a big deal.
love ya man...but I just cant agree. His contract has 2 more years remaining. Why not play out this season THEN revisit the extension next year? Dallas and JJ has been extremely loyal to him. Don't you think he should return the favor and honor what he signed? Just a thought.
 

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love ya man...but I just cant agree. His contract has 2 more years remaining. Why not play out this season THEN revisit the extension next year? Dallas and JJ has been extremely loyal to him. Don't you think he should return the favor and honor what he signed? Just a thought.
It's not like he had a choice. He didn't have an opportunity to negotiate the contract he signed. I realize it's hard for some that don't work in a job that is performance based. I'm in sales and have been in places with poor pay structure or don't want to increase $$ even if you are outperforming your current starting structure. So what are my options and what did I do. I left to another company. He doesn't have that same option.
 

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Jay Ajayi is a better RB when healthy. However, he is not healthy. He tore his ACL for the 2nd time in October last year. He has degenerative knees which is why he dropped to the 5th round in the draft.

The ACL tear in October was the other knee.

There is no guarantee that Ajayi could last one game before his knees blew out again. Then we would be stuck without a veteran RB and a hit on our salary cap for a guy sitting on IR collecting a check.

Nope. There is no "guarantee" of anything regarding any player's health. Just like there is no "guarantee" he would get injured.

BTW, where is this market for Jay Ajayi right now? I don't see teams bringing him in for visits. His knees are scaring most teams away.

They're certainly a concern, as they should be. And I'm nit advocating putting all of our eggs in his basket. But Super Bowl winning teams have shown that committee running backs work, and Ajayi himself has specifically shown that.
 

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Actually the Saints picked up Rob Kelley, formerly of the Commanders.

Something must really be wrong with Ajayi's knees if guys like Kelley are getting in line ahead of him.

Or he's holding out for a bigger role somewhere?
 

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The ACL tear in October was the other knee.



Nope. There is no "guarantee" of anything regarding any player's health. Just like there is no "guarantee" he would get injured.



They're certainly a concern, as they should be. And I'm nit advocating putting all of our eggs in his basket. But Super Bowl winning teams have shown that committee running backs work, and Ajayi himself has specifically shown that.
I would have explored Ajayi over alfred morris. But you know the cowboys they like boring and familiar hence the same results for 23 years.
 

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It's not like he had a choice. He didn't have an opportunity to negotiate the contract he signed. I realize it's hard for some that don't work in a job that is performance based. I'm in sales and have been in places with poor pay structure or don't want to increase $$ even if you are outperforming your current starting structure. So what are my options and what did I do. I left to another company. He doesn't have that same option.
I used to be in sales as well..for years...so I feel you 100%. I also think SOMETIMES when your boss is very loyal to you, you stand by your agreement.Look at Amari. He is handling his business the right way. No fuss. Zeke will be here in the end. Im not worried really. I can relate to your analogy tho. Sales is peaks and valleys. BTW...HE HAS AN OPTION TO LEAVE his "company" , after he fulfils what he signed in good faith...but I think if he just played out the year,next year Dallas would make him the highest paid guy at his pos. He needs to be patient...come on young fella!!! BE PATIENT! lol
 

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I used to be in sales as well..for years...so I feel you 100%. I also think SOMETIMES when your boss is very loyal to you, you stand by your agreement.Look at Amari. He is handling his business the right way. No fuss. Zeke will be here in the end. Im not worried really. I can relate to your analogy tho. Sales is peaks and valleys. BTW...HE HAS AN OPTION TO LEAVE his "company" , after he fulfils what he signed in good faith...but I think if he just played out the year,next year Dallas would make him the highest paid guy at his pos. He needs to be patient...come on young fella!!! BE PATIENT! lol
If my boss was loyal to me he would pay me right? And show me my value to the company not in words but in compensation. He can't leave. The team picked up his 5th year option. So he would have to play 2 years. Then they could franchise him for the 3rd season. Then as a rb will hit the open market at 27 years old. How's that market for a 27 year old rb that's had trouble off the field. And god forbid he has any injuries in those previous 3 seasons that will effect his value as well.
 
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