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As always, X...thanks.

Myself, for this running back, I think it will boil down to heart, dedication, and being intensely opportunistic when given a chance.
 

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Michael could be close to joining Cowboys backfield - San Antonio Express-News
Shuyler Dixon explains why the Cowboys could go with four running backs today.

It’s unusual for teams to carry four running backs on game day, but the Cowboys have a quirk in that No. 3 back Lance Dunbar has been used much more as a receiver so far. He has just two carries, and is the NFL leader among running backs with 21 catches for 215 yards receiving.

With receiver Dez Bryant sidelined with a broken right foot, Dunbar leads the team in yardage. And his presence could allow the Cowboys to carry one fewer receiver against the Saints.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2015...-notes-will-brandon-weeden-air-it-out-tonight
 

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Whether he is right or wrong, my point was he does/did push his agenda.

When one starts with s conclusion, it is surprising how often the research supports it

I really don't have an agenda in regards to Michael or the other RBs. I would be happy is Michael gets some carries and is great.

My only agenda is to see if people have some information that I'm missing. If people make unsubstantiated claims then I'm probably going to counter those claims to see if those people can do anything to support their claims.

At this point the thread is 4 pages and nobody has responded in terms of discussing what Michael actually did on the field in the NFL.

If you want to see bias, look at one poster's far fetched claims about why Michael didn't have success in Seattle. Then go back and look at how that poster bashed the current RBs before Michael ever got to the Cowboys.

As another poster astutely observed, I wanted to temper my own expectations after watching Michael in the NFL and comparing it to the hype that I've seen in regards to the player.

FYI, I didn't have an agenda on Parnell/Free other than what I saw on film. I don't know either player personally and I didn't follow either player in college. I was fueled to continually repeat my opinion on the subject because people argued against it. Most of those people were the ones that don't really study the games but love to make bold claims that certain players suck, etc.. It fueled me even more when media morons claimed that Weems would be the backup OT and that Parnell would be cut back at the beginning of the 2014 preseason. Looking back that was obviously completely not possible. Parnell proved successful when he had to start 7 games and got a big contract. Weems can't even win the backup job this year, then was cut and moved to the practice squad. They had to get a guy off the street to be the backup OT.

I also had no agenda during the preseason when I asked the cult of Gardner to tell me specifically which plays he made that caused them to exclaim that he was great. Again, I had high hopes for the player myself in the off-season but he was just not very good in the preseason based on studying the game footage. Despite the evidence the preseason, people argued emphatically that Gardner was indeed great and that he would definitely be playing on another team. In reality he was not even signed to a practice squad on any other team the last I checked.
 

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As always, X...thanks.

Myself, for this running back, I think it will boil down to heart, dedication, and being intensely opportunistic when given a chance.

Perfect summary.
 

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I really don't have an agenda in regards to Michael or the other RBs. I would be happy is Michael gets some carries and is great.

My only agenda is to see if people have some information that I'm missing. If people make unsubstantiated claims then I'm probably going to counter those claims to see if those people can do anything to support their claims.

At this point the thread is 4 pages and nobody has responded in terms of discussing what Michael actually did on the field in the NFL.

If you want to see bias, look at one poster's far fetched claims about why Michael didn't have success in Seattle. Then go back and look at how that poster bashed the current RBs before Michael ever got to the Cowboys.

As another poster astutely observed, I wanted to temper my own expectations after watching Michael in the NFL and comparing it to the hype that I've seen in regards to the player.

FYI, I didn't have an agenda on Parnell/Free other than what I saw on film. I don't know either player personally and I didn't follow either player in college. I was fueled to continually repeat my opinion on the subject because people argued against it. Most of those people were the ones that don't really study the games but love to make bold claims that certain players suck, etc.. It fueled me even more when media morons claimed that Weems would be the backup OT and that Parnell would be cut back at the beginning of the 2014 preseason. Looking back that was obviously completely not possible. Parnell proved successful when he had to start 7 games and got a big contract. Weems can't even win the backup job this year, then was cut and moved to the practice squad. They had to get a guy off the street to be the backup OT.

I also had no agenda during the preseason when I asked the cult of Gardner to tell me specifically which plays he made that caused them to exclaim that he was great. Again, I had high hopes for the player myself in the off-season but he was just not very good in the preseason based on studying the game footage. Despite the evidence the preseason, people argued emphatically that Gardner was indeed great and that he would definitely be playing on another team. In reality he was not even signed to a practice squad on any other team the last I checked.

XW, I usually like and appreciate your thoughtful posts because I think you are largely unbiased. However, we all have our blind spots

CM is bigger, faster and stronger than Randle and was highly touted coming out of college. He is also physical but has never had a real opportunity in the NFL

Out own RBs are are average in those areas and have proven to be ineffective in the first 3 games

Let's give CM the same opportunity that we gave to randle and McFadden

If he does not produce, then we can say he sucks

But first, let's give him a shot
 

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XW, I usually like and appreciate your thoughtful posts because I think you are largely unbiased. However, we all have our blind spots

CM is bigger, faster and stronger than Randle and was highly touted coming out of college. He is also physical but has never had a real opportunity in the NFL

Out own RBs are are average in those areas and have proven to be ineffective in the first 3 games

Let's give CM the same opportunity that we gave to randle and McFadden

If he does not produce, then we can say he sucks

But first, let's give him a shot

And that rubber has hit the road how many times in actual trials?
 

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XW, I usually like and appreciate your thoughtful posts because I think you are largely unbiased. However, we all have our blind spots

CM is bigger, faster and stronger than Randle and was highly touted coming out of college. He is also physical but has never had a real opportunity in the NFL

Out own RBs are are average in those areas and have proven to be ineffective in the first 3 games

Let's give CM the same opportunity that we gave to randle and McFadden

If he does not produce, then we can say he sucks

But first, let's give him a shot

I gave him a positive review and I said I would like to see what he can do here.

I'm just pushing back at the extreme hype that I've seen in regards to the player.

Also, I have yet to see any reason to bash the current RBs. Randle/McFadden have done reasonably well. The blocking has not been what it was last year and it's much easier for defenses to play the run when Romo and Dez are out of the game.

I'm more concerned about the blocking and the passing game than the current RBs. Hopefully Leary is back to 100% this week. Free is a big concern. Either his foot/ankle issues which required 2 surgeries in the past 20 months is a problem or he is just declining with age. He has really struggled. The backup OT wouldn't be any better from what I know about him so it's not a good situation. At a minimum it seems that Free might need more time to get healthy.

In terms of the "just see what he can do" concept, I would love to do that with Collins at RT. That might do more for the running game than a different RB.
 

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I gave him a positive review and I said I would like to see what he can do here.

I'm just pushing back at the extreme hype that I've seen in regards to the player.

Also, I have yet to see any reason to bash the current RBs. Randle/McFadden have done reasonably well. The blocking has not been what it was last year and it's much easier for defenses to play the run when Romo and Dez are out of the game.

I'm more concerned about the blocking and the passing game than the current RBs. Hopefully Leary is back to 100% this week. Free is a big concern. Either his foot/ankle issues which required 2 surgeries in the past 20 months is a problem or he is just declining with age. He has really struggled. The backup OT wouldn't be any better from what I know about him so it's not a good situation. At a minimum it seems that Free might need more time to get healthy.

In terms of the "just see what he can do" concept, I would love to do that with Collins at RT. That might do more for the running game than a different RB.
letting Parnell go and keeping Free might be the biggest offseason mistake the boys made. Outside of trying to find a better backup QB of course.
 

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Who said that's never been done? I never made a case for that. I'm talking specifically about CMike. CMike is crap.

That's the problem. That is nothing to substantiate your argument. Time will tell though.
 

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letting Parnell go and keeping Free might be the biggest offseason mistake the boys made. Outside of trying to find a better backup QB of course.

Are you aware of how bad Parnell is this year? I can bring up some All 22 clips but I hope you can take my word for it that he's been awful.
 

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Are you aware of how bad Parnell is this year? I can bring up some All 22 clips but I hope you can take my word for it that he's been awful.
yeah sure. you probably don't want to talk about what might all be involved there from atmosphere to coaching to who he is lined up besides. Its all his fault and no one elses at all.
 

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yeah sure. you probably don't want to talk about what might all be involved there from atmosphere to coaching to who he is lined up besides. Its all his fault and no one elses at all.

Burma, give him a little extra time to ask the preppie next to him...
 

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CMike isn't better than McFadden.

I tend to agree with the OP from what I've seen.
 
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That's the problem. That is nothing to substantiate your argument. Time will tell though.

Time will tell and time is not "nothing" so stop with your claim there is "nothing" to substantiate my argument. I speak the truth and in time you will know the truth too.
 

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Time will tell and time is not "nothing" so stop with your claim there is "nothing" to substantiate my argument. I speak the truth and in time you will know the truth too.

Well, that makes a lot of sense. :eek:
 

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yeah sure. you probably don't want to talk about what might all be involved there from atmosphere to coaching to who he is lined up besides. Its all his fault and no one elses at all.

Listen I get it but you can't sign that level of talent to the kind of contract he got in free agency. It would be nice to have Parnell but he's not worth the money he got.
 

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letting Parnell go and keeping Free might be the biggest offseason mistake the boys made. Outside of trying to find a better backup QB of course.

I still don't understand their logic. If Free had been super cheap, then maybe I could see it from that perspective, but they paid him 5M per.

Maybe the 5M would have been OK if he was 100% but he had just had his 2nd foot/ankle surgery at the time they signed him.

It seems that Parnell would have taken that same contract that Free signed because he didn't know what offer he would get in free agency.

It seemed as if Free was Garrett's guy and Parnell was Callahan's guy. Garrett stayed, Callahan departed; therefore, Free stayed, Parnell departed.
 

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Listen I get it but you can't sign that level of talent to the kind of contract he got in free agency. It would be nice to have Parnell but he's not worth the money he got.

I don't think Parnell would have turned down the contract they gave Free if they offered it to him before he hit free agency.
 
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