All 8 of the Cowboys SB teams won their season finale

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I wonder if JG decided EE would not play, or was he told to not play him by the jones boys??
He said the coaches would decide all that , but I wonder.

It was probably a collective decision.

I imagine the risk reward was taken into consideration and risking players health was not worth the reward which was basically nothing.
 

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Explain to me how the past is relevant.
When is the cutoff?

That's the same argument we had several days ago in another thread and it's already been explained. I'm still waiting for you to provide my post/quote so I can show how bad you twisted my comment. You have an agenda.
 

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Your stat is meaningless and stupid. This thread is about you and your need to push negatively. You know that and enjoy it. I enjoy helping you when I have the time. Sorry if I can't always be there.

That stat has gotten under your skin and it has you worried. That stat shows the Cowboys greatest playoff success has come from entering the playoffs with momentum, something Garrett preached was important but suddenly decided to go away from that and mail the season finale in resulting in our poorest performance all year. All you enjoy is looking for opportunities to make everything I post about me. You twist my comments and when you're challenged to provide my quotes you continue your attack. Go flame someone else I'm here to chat with level headed, mature adults not those who have an agenda.
 

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The other fact was each of those Super Bowl winning teams were healthy going into the playoffs. This one has been a good indicator of how the Cowboys will do.

We've had plenty of healthy teams entering the playoffs including our 2014 team and most of them never reached the SB. The most important factor to reaching the SB is playing your best football entering the playoffs and to do that you need to be riding a wave of momentum. Seeing some like to bring up other teams the 2010 Packers had a number of players on IR but won the SB because they peaked at the right time. The Giants won a SB with a backup QB in 1990. SB winning teams have suffered key injures heading into the playoffs but their replacements stepped up.

I don't care how healthy a team is, reaching the SB comes down to being sharp and playing great football. There's been a number of teams play it safe by mailing in the final game of the regular season not wanting to risk starters only to make a quick exit in the playoffs. Not saying this will happen to the Cowboys, we'll just have to see if the team looks prepared in a couple of weeks.
 

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Here you talk about 07 and its relevance because it's within the last 10 years. You leave out all the *** whippings we handed them in the 90's,70's etc

Yet you point to all our past teams and say that losing the last game, whether meaningful or not, is cause for concern going forward.

So I'm asking why and when the history is relevant and why in one thread you go back 10 years and why in another 40 or whatever.

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I've said several times when talking about the Giants/Cowboys you have to look at the Eli era and what's taken place while he's been the QB and they've gotten the better of us in big games the past 10 years. The butt whippings against them in the 70s and 90s were due to us having championship teams. When players and coaches come and go over the years things can change between two franchises and they have between us and the Giants. We owned them in the 70s and 90s but they've owned us ever since Eli became their QB.

They've won 2 SB's the past 10 years since we won our last one in 1995. They've been the better team over the past 10 years and their record against us proves it along with their 2 championships. We haven't made it past the second round of the playoffs since the 1995 season. The stat about our 8 SB teams winning their season finale has remained consistent despite 25 years between our first SB appearance and our last SB appearance. Our history has shown that we've had our best playoff success ending the regular season with momentum from a win.
 

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I'd be more concerned about situations where the season finale actually had meaning (Cowboys or otherwise, as the above poster says)

I'd be concerned if it was Dak out there flopping around out there and not Sanchez.
 

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The reward for playing is maintaining momentum, keeping players sharp, going into the postseason all systems go ready to play your best football. If somebody gets hurt in the process that's part of the game. Go cry about it.

Instead we chose safety. Which has never worked for this team yet people still line up in support of it when the team once again fails to show a backbone.

The Patriots don't do it. They must not be as "smart" as the Cowboys.
 

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The last 8 times it rained I was wearing my jacket. I'm going to wear my jacket today to make it rain.

Wear what you were wearing the last time the Cowboys made it to the SB, unfortunately it will be a diaper.
 

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Its almost like people forget that we have tied for the most regular season victories in our history at 13, with the other being in 2007. So in essence in all 8 of our Superbowl appearances we have not had more than 12 victories in a 16 game season.

Maybe thats why we won the last game, cause well...we needed to.

The last time we had 13 wins we never got past the divisional round of the playoffs. The last time we had 13 wins we couldn't win the game we needed to against a damn team we beat twice that season because we took a fiesta in week 17 when we were slumping and decided to embarrass ourselves against a division rival and weren't ready to play when it mattered most. While our QB and a few other players were in Cabo taking their minds off football the Giants were winning a playoff game.

Those 8 SB teams won the games they needed to, to reach the SB. They were no mailing in games with those teams and coaches. Having something to play for the final week of the season kept those teams focused and sharp for the playoffs. What's worked for this franchise is being motivated the final week, getting a win and heading into the playoffs with momentum. Mailing in games the final week of the season and taking a week off has yet to even lead to a playoff win for this franchise.
 

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The last time we had 13 wins we never got past the divisional round of the playoffs. The last time we had 13 wins we couldn't win the game we needed to against a damn team we beat twice that season because we took a fiesta in week 17 when we were slumping and decided to embarrass ourselves against a division rival and weren't ready to play when it mattered most. While our QB and a few other players were in Cabo taking their minds off football the Giants were winning a playoff game.

Those 8 SB teams won the games they needed to, to reach the SB. They were no mailing in games with those teams and coaches. Having something to play for the final week of the season kept those teams focused and sharp for the playoffs. What's worked for this franchise is being motivated the final week, getting a win and heading into the playoffs with momentum. Mailing in games the final week of the season and taking a week off has yet to even lead to a playoff win for this franchise.

So what you're saying is based on one single season you have determined that we can't win a superbowl?

What if you're wrong? What happens if we do win the superbowl? Do you suddenly come back and pretend like this thread didn't exist?

The past is the past. We aren't in the 70's, 80',s or 90's, this isn't 2011 or 2014. The team will go as far as it will go, not because of whether or not they didn't win Week 17, but because of Dak, Zeke, the OL, The def, and the coaches. We made our 8 superbowl appearances because players stepped up when needed, not because they "Had something to play for in the last game"
 

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It's just something should be viewed as nothing more than coincidental.

It's a little more than coincidental because there's clearly a correlation between heading into the playoffs with momentum and reaching the SB. Everyone of those teams were peaking heading into the playoffs. The 1970 team finished the regular season with 5 straight wins. The 71 team finished the regular season with 7 straight wins. The 75 team finished the regular season with 2 straight wins. The 77 team finished the regular season with 4 straight wins. The 78 team finished the regular season with 6 straight wins. The 92 team finished the regular season with 2 straight wins. The 93 team finished the regular season with 5 straight wins and the 95 team finished the regular season with 2 straight wins. Everyone of those teams were riding winning streaks into the playoffs. Our current team was 3-2 in Dec after rolling through Sept-Nov with 11 straight wins.

This team is not playing it's best football of the season. After the loss to the Giants, the Bucs gave us all we could handle at home and Detroit put up 21 points in the first half before we woke up in the second half. Our last few games have me concerned. What impressed me was the team we were from weeks 5-10. Since then Dak has been figured out some and we're being put in a lot of long down situations, which has been an issue for him. We saw that in the limited time he was on the field Sunday, he got put in a 3rd and 15 and tossed an ugly pass to try and avoid the rush. We should have allowed him to get into more a groove before we sat him.
 

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I've said several times when talking about the Giants/Cowboys you have to look at the Eli era and what's taken place while he's been the QB and they've gotten the better of us in big games the past 10 years. The butt whippings against them in the 70s and 90s were due to us having championship teams. When players and coaches come and go over the years things can change between two franchises and they have between us and the Giants. We owned them in the 70s and 90s but they've owned us ever since Eli became their QB.

They've won 2 SB's the past 10 years since we won our last one in 1995. They've been the better team over the past 10 years and their record against us proves it along with their 2 championships. We haven't made it past the second round of the playoffs since the 1995 season. The stat about our 8 SB teams winning their season finale has remained consistent despite 25 years between our first SB appearance and our last SB appearance. Our history has shown that we've had our best playoff success ending the regular season with momentum from a win.
Ok. Have fun and enjoy the playoffs. I know I will. ;)
 

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So what you're saying is based on one single season you have determined that we can't win a superbowl?

What if you're wrong? What happens if we do win the superbowl? Do you suddenly come back and pretend like this thread didn't exist?

The past is the past. We aren't in the 70's, 80',s or 90's, this isn't 2011 or 2014. The team will go as far as it will go, not because of whether or not they didn't win Week 17, but because of Dak, Zeke, the OL, The def, and the coaches. We made our 8 superbowl appearances because players stepped up when needed, not because they "Had something to play for in the last game"

Dude, I'm not saying we can't reach or win the SB because of a stat. lol Some of you are reading the wrong thing into the reason I posted that stat. It's an interesting stat that I'm sure many weren't aware of but nowhere have I said or insinuated we can't reach the SB because of it...get real! We're going to have to buck a trend but it's certainly doable if we play well in the playoffs. Those 8 SB teams were riding a wave of momentum into the playoffs. Their play the final games of the regular season carried over to the playoffs. You can't flip a switch in the playoffs, you're either playing well or you're not.

If something worked for you in the past, you usually try and follow the same plan because it led to success. Mailing in the 2007 season finale to rest players didn't help us advance in the playoffs. The last time we finished the season strong it led to at least a playoff win but we decided to revert back to something that failed miserably for us. Doesn't mean it will fail again but I would have preferred to stick with what worked for us the last time we made the playoffs.
 

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Ok. Have fun and enjoy the playoffs. I know I will. ;)

As long as we play well, I'll enjoy the playoffs but if we don't play well I won't be hearing from you for a awhile. You won't care to rehash any of this discussion. lol
 

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Dude, I'm not saying we can't reach or win the SB because of a stat. lol Some of you are reading the wrong thing into the reason I posted that stat. It's an interesting stat that I'm sure many weren't aware of but nowhere have I said or insinuated we can't reach the SB because of it...get real! We're going to have to buck a trend but it's certainly doable if we play well in the playoffs. Those 8 SB teams were riding a wave of momentum into the playoffs. Their play the final games of the regular season carried over to the playoffs. You can't flip a switch in the playoffs, you're either playing well or you're not.

If something worked for you in the past, you usually try and follow the same plan because it led to success. Mailing in the 2007 season finale to rest players didn't help us advance in the playoffs. The last time we finished the season strong it led to at least a playoff win but we decided to revert back to something that failed miserably for us. Doesn't mean it will fail again but I would have preferred to stick with what worked for us the last time we made the playoffs.

You should have expected the reaction. Had the Cowboys been men and played through the entire season your stat would have been welcomed. Woo hoo. Go Cowboys. But you posted that stat right after they did what has always failed them.

That isn't going to go over well here.
 

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You should have expected the reaction. Had the Cowboys been men and played through the entire season your stat would have been welcomed. Woo hoo. Go Cowboys. But you posted that stat right after they did what has always failed them.

That isn't going to go over well here.

I figured posting it would ruffle some feathers and yes had we won last week everyone wouldn't be pissing on that stat. Stats and facts that don't favor our current team never go over well.
 
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