All Draft picks signed, 8.6m under the cap

[Setackin]

That's the great thing about people who are wrong. They really hate to hear they are wrong and act all indigent when people point it out

Its funny when ppl give advice... its usually advice they could do with.

 

[Blackspider214]

What's so hard to understand that this team was in cap hell and are working their way out of it?

Did somebody say we were in cap hell for the remainder of this franchises existence?

This. We were in cap hell. No way around it. We still have a few bad contracts like Romo. But this offseason, Jerry either got smarter (doubtful) or started listening to his people (probable) and got rid of all the older players and the players who did not perform or would be in the future. Went younger and cheaper.

 

[BigStar]

This. We were in cap hell. No way around it. We still have a few bad contracts like Romo. But this offseason, Jerry either got smarter (doubtful) or started listening to his people (probable) and got rid of all the older players and the players who did not perform or would be in the future. Went younger and cheaper.

I hear that and think XWalker was more stating the "new cap way of cap hell" is quite manageable after a couple of hefty vet contracts are dealt with (Ware). No major FAs were brought in, and the reason given by the org @ the time was the team was too snug against the cap given the current contracts on the team. I think it lies somewhere in the middle. 8.6 in current cap room shows the team had even more wiggle room then they liked to let on during FA. During FA, we didn't hear much about Dez/Tyron, we heard about maintaining status quo and going through the draft. That is a team that is at the minimum, in "semi rebuilding mode".

 

[big dog cowboy]

If they cut Orton

Told you earlier this week that isn't going to happen.

 

[AsthmaField]

What did I say...

Well, x is a variable... so you must have said "variable".

 

[big dog cowboy]

We still have a few bad contracts like Romo.

No it isn't. It's not a great contract either but when you have a franchise QB they are going to get an huge contract. It's the price you pay for having one.

 

[zack]

No it isn't. It's not a great contract either but when you have a franchise QB they are going to get an huge contract. It's the price you pay for having one.

In addition, If had he hit FA, he was going to get paid big time.

 

[daveferr33]

No it isn't. It's not a great contract either but when you have a franchise QB they are going to get an huge contract. It's the price you pay for having one.

The problem with Romo's contract (if it is a problem) isn't that we paid the going rate for a franchise QB, its that we did so with future dollars, and we did so (prematurely) for the most part to get out of the cap problems we were having at the time.

Here's what its like to crow (on June 20, 2014) that we are not in cap hell:

Person A says the Kitchen is a mess.

Person B says no it is not.

Person C comes in and cleans the kitchen.

Person B says see I told you so, its not a mess.

 

[AbeBeta]

Getting rid of high priced players and replacing them with rookies, players coming off injuries and JAGs can really improve the Salary cap overnight. Lets see how it works out.... first.

Lost: DWARE, Austin, Hatcher, no more franchise tag for Spencer

Gained: Z Martin, DLaw, Melton, short term deal for Spencer, Mincy, McClain...

Really? I read on this board that restructured deals would haunt us for years

 

[Maxmadden]

We have never been in cap hell the last few years. If you want to know what cap hell is like ask Dave Campo. We have been close because when JG became head coach the first thing he started doing was trimming the fat. Yes he got rid of nearly the whole offensive line and the OL sucked for a few years. Don't look now but we have a pretty good OL. This past year we trimmed the DL.

If we had attempted to do it all at once we would have been in cap hell and rebuilding from scratch. We are rebuilding, but we are staying competitive while we do it. If we haven't signed some high priced free agent it's not because of the cap, but because he didn't fit the long range plan. Now we are almost out of the dead money and focusing on the DL and the future is actually looking up. We are putting a young talented team together and being fiscally responsible. Just part of the process.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

No it isn't. It's not a great contract either but when you have a franchise QB they are going to get an huge contract. It's the price you pay for having one.

As I've said many times to no one particular, people have some pretty powerful crystal balls to judge a contract that hasn't even started yet.

 

[Nightman]

I hear that and think XWalker was more stating the "new cap way of cap hell" is quite manageable after a couple of hefty vet contracts are dealt with (Ware). No major FAs were brought in, and the reason given by the org @ the time was the team was too snug against the cap given the current contracts on the team. I think it lies somewhere in the middle. 8.6 in current cap room shows the team had even more wiggle room then they liked to let on during FA. During FA, we didn't hear much about Dez/Tyron, we heard about maintaining status quo and going through the draft. That is a team that is at the minimum, in "semi rebuilding mode".

They also have Witten's and Carr's contracts that could have been restructured for another 10m.

They have clearly gone through a major rebuilding without bottoming out. I think they have done a great job of competing for the Division while re-tooling. I think they are set up for a nice run to end Romo's tenure.

My plan would be to extend Dez, TSmith and Murray(to a degree) and go Defense heavy again next year in FA and the draft. I expect big improvements with Linehan and Marinelli running things and I like Garrett as the Head Coach.

 

[BigStar]

They also have Witten's and Carr's contracts that could have been restructured for another 10m.

They have clearly gone through a major rebuilding without bottoming out. I think they have done a great job of competing for the Division while re-tooling. I think they are set up for a nice run to end Romo's tenure.

My plan would be to extend Dez, TSmith and Murray(to a degree) and go Defense heavy again next year in FA and the draft. I expect big improvements with Linehan and Marinelli running things and I like Garrett as the Head Coach.

You had me grinning until the last half of your last sentence But agree with your outlook otherwise. As long as Romo stays healthy and productive, this team will never bottom out and remain a consistent division contender. I feel that Romo's best years may have been wasted, but the talent on the offense allows for "the shot" these next couple of seasons. I like Linehan's creativity in comparison and will assist in keeping the D's head above water until they can become formidable. Lawrence looks promising and like that he brings a little nastiness to his game. Melton is a great signing for this team and see no reason he won't come back from an ACL given his contract structure. I like Wilcox a lot as a player given his short time @ S and also has that aggressive trait similar to Lawrence. I like my defenders to be a little "off" as long as police cars aren't following them to practice

 

[Vanilla2]

What's so hard to understand that this team was in cap hell and are working their way out of it?

Did somebody say we were in cap hell for the remainder of this franchises existence?

Nobody said it outright but it was definitely implied.

 

[Fredd]

We have never been in cap hell the last few years. If you want to know what cap hell is like ask Dave Campo. We have been close because when JG became head coach the first thing he started doing was trimming the fat. Yes he got rid of nearly the whole offensive line and the OL sucked for a few years. Don't look now but we have a pretty good OL. This past year we trimmed the DL.

If we had attempted to do it all at once we would have been in cap hell and rebuilding from scratch. We are rebuilding, but we are staying competitive while we do it. If we haven't signed some high priced free agent it's not because of the cap, but because he didn't fit the long range plan. Now we are almost out of the dead money and focusing on the DL and the future is actually looking up. We are putting a young talented team together and being fiscally responsible. Just part of the process.

this is where I am at as well...I like to think that the FO had that as a plan once Garrett came in and that is why he hasn't even sniffed a pink slip....sure, he has game management issues, but perhaps during the interview process he said something like "if you let me build the roster my own way, and give me a coach or two that I want, then I am in"....this team bottomed out already and is on their way back up...all the while, the team stayed competitive...here's looking forward to the 2014 version of the Dallas Cowboys Football Team! (raises obligatory alcoholic beverage)

 

[Nightman]

As I've said many times to no one particular, people have some pretty powerful crystal balls to judge a contract that hasn't even started yet.

It was a 4 yr/68m extension. That is less than the going rate for a Top QB. If he stays healthy it's a very good contract. Time will tell.

 

[dbonham]

Can we extend Smith after his 5th year option activates? If so get Dez and Murray done this year and Tyron before 2015

 

[jnday]

I've argued over and over with people on this board about how we aren't in cap hell.

I get to crow a bit on this one.

No you don't things change and the team is finally working the cap as they should be. One year of running the cap right doesn't make up for many years of screw ups. A couple stupid contracts and they will be in the same bad shape.

 

[starfrombirth]

I've argued over and over with people on this board about how we aren't in cap hell.

I get to crow a bit on this one.

We aren't quite in cap hell because the team made the hard decisions and let some veterans go. If we had kept Ware, re-signed Hatcher, and kept Austin we would be way over so....

 

[Hoofbite]

Is the cap mess still being argued?

Jerry said it was in bad shape.

Stephen said it was in bad shape.

The team has almost no substantial contracts on the defensive side of the ball. Carr and Lee? That it?

They've watched players leave and cut others, only to replace them with rock bottom contracts.

The financials look good now and the team has written contracts in a manner entirely different than they had previously, but it took a complete bankrupting in talent on the defensive side of the ball to get there.

Nobody ever said there wasn't a way to fix it. Like the Commanders a year or two back, Dallas purged its roster. In fact, I think Washington had the "youngest roster" in the NFL for a season. Why? Because they couldn't afford vets and had to play a bunch of minimum wage players.

I thought it was pretty well accepted that cutting or letting all your talent walk would get you out of cap trouble. I didn't think anyone would actually thump their chest when it happened simply because it have the team cap space.

Unreal.