All Draft picks signed, 8.6m under the cap

[xwalker]

Just maybe, Jerry's little puppet (as some put it), might be guiding him through these darks times. The way Parcells and Jimmy did.

This hasn't been a 5 and 11 team the last 3 years (Campo type years), we been knocking on the door while setting up our future.

Accept it, Jerry is here for the long haul. One can only hope that there is a guiding light in there somewhere. Sure doesn't look like the work Jerry has been turning out the last 3 years. This has other finger prints on it.

Or

just go back to looking at the trees, there probably isn't a forest behind your trees anyway.

You have to understand the psychology of posters that continually make absolute type statements. It is known in psychology that people that focus on absolutes or dramatic type issues are trying to make the disscussion revolve around themselves and often don't really care that much about the actual discussion.

Somebody that tells everybody that end of the world is near is not doing it to help others, they're doing it to get attention for themselves. A nobody can feel like somebody if they can get people to believe that they see the signs of the apocalypse.

 

[jnday]

We get the same "bad shape" story every year and end up being able to do whatever we want every year

That is whee you are wrong. Every year there was mid-level free agents that they couldn't afford.

 

[AbeBeta]

That is whee you are wrong. Every year there was mid-level free agents that they couldn't afford.

Like who? Every deal has flex if you really want someone. Note - you wanting someone does not equal the team wanting them

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That is whee you are wrong. Every year there was mid-level free agents that they couldn't afford.

By mid level do you mean guys like Durant, Bernadeau, Livings, Connor, Orton, McClain and Mincey?

They always sign guys like that every year. You been living under a rock?

The meme should be that we can never make a splash in free agency but then you sign Carr and screw that all up.

 

[burmafrd]

By mid level do you mean guys like Durant, Bernadeau, Livings, Connor, Orton, McClain and Mincey?

They always sign guys like that every year. You been living under a rock?

The meme should be that we can never make a splash in free agency but then you sign Carr and screw that all up.

goblers will gobble. And calling that batch mid level is a joke.

Honest people call that dumpster diving

 

[JBS]

The guy who runs the cap for this team has said on multiple occasions that this team was strapped vs the cap

Give it a rest, my goodness

 

[jnday]

Like who? Every deal has flex if you really want someone. Note - you wanting someone does not equal the team wanting them

Do your research. It was several guys that was brought in , but Dallas didn't have the cap room. There was a couple of these guys that Dallas tried to get the players to wait until after June when they would have some cap money available. IIRC, Michael Hamlin was one of the players that was brought in. It doesn't matter anyway. You have never thought that the salary cap could limit teams anyway. I bet you still think the Texans could have afforded keeping Mario Williams on the roster . I never will forget that debate. You against the whole board. You cap knowledge wasn't so good on that one. You might want to check your facts on the Cowboy's cap history and see how it has limited them from time to time before you crow about them getting things right after all these years of mismanagement. To the team's credit , they are finally catching on. Now, if they can figure out how to maintain a high level if talent while staying under the cap, they will be running the team as it should be.

 

[Nation]

Like who? Every deal has flex if you really want someone. Note - you wanting someone does not equal the team wanting them

In my opinion where this team finds itself challenged against the cap is the second-tier player contracts. They are limited in being able to do short-term but mid-money deals with players like Seattle did with Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril.

 

[xwalker]

Do your research. It was several guys that was brought in , but Dallas didn't have the cap room. There was a couple of these guys that Dallas tried to get the players to wait until after June when they would have some cap money available. IIRC, Michael Hamlin was one of the players that was brought in. It doesn't matter anyway. You have never thought that the salary cap could limit teams anyway. I bet you still think the Texans could have afforded keeping Mario Williams on the roster . I never will forget that debate. You against the whole board. You cap knowledge wasn't so good on that one. You might want to check your facts on the Cowboy's cap history and see how it has limited them from time to time before you crow about them getting things right after all these years of mismanagement. To the team's credit , they are finally catching on. Now, if they can figure out how to maintain a high level if talent while staying under the cap, they will be running the team as it should be.

Michael Hamlin?

The only Michael Hamlin that I know of was a Cowboys draft pick that has been out of the league since 2010.

 

[jnday]

By mid level do you mean guys like Durant, Bernadeau, Livings, Connor, Orton, McClain and Mincey?

They always sign guys like that every year. You been living under a rock?

The meme should be that we can never make a splash in free agency but then you sign Carr and screw that all up.

They has been years that they couldn't afford to sign veteran players at the vet. min. I didn't say that every year they couldn't afford these mid-level players. I am not going to argue a point that even Jerry and Stephen has admitted to hurting the team. Have it your way, the cap has never been never been a problem in Dallas if that is the way you want it.

 

[jnday]

Michael Hamlin?

The only Michael Hamlin that I know of was a Cowboys draft pick that has been out of the league since 2010.

The Ex-Arwuders safety is who I was resign to remember. I knew my thinking wasn't right .?that was the reason for the IIRC. lol

 

[xwalker]

The Ex-Arwuders safety is who I was resign to remember. I knew my thinking wasn't right .?that was the reason for the IIRC. lol

Michael Huff ?

 

[Idgit]

Michael Huff ?

Ken Hamlin?

 

[xwalker]

That is whee you are wrong. Every year there was mid-level free agents that they couldn't afford.

By mid level do you mean guys like Durant, Bernadeau, Livings, Connor, Orton, McClain and Mincey?

They always sign guys like that every year. You been living under a rock?

The meme should be that we can never make a splash in free agency but then you sign Carr and screw that all up.

They has been years that they couldn't afford to sign veteran players at the vet. min. I didn't say that every year they couldn't afford these mid-level players. I am not going to argue a point that even Jerry and Stephen has admitted to hurting the team. Have it your way, the cap has never been never been a problem in Dallas if that is the way you want it.

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Going into free agency every year they could make cap space and sign significant free agents. They did max out in 2013, but they basically got the top free agent that they wanted by Franchising Spencer. If they didn't have cap space, they would have been forced to give him a long term contract to lower the cap hit.

Where they did limit themselves was by spending their budget early some years. In 2013 they spent their budget on the Spencer Franchise Tag and were not able to bid on the bargains that Seattle got with Bennett and Avril.

The change that I anticipate is that I believe that McClay is going to reserve some space and keep an eye out or bargains like Avril and Bennett later in the FA period. They brought in Davin Joseph a few weeks ago, probably just to see if he would be available at a bargain price. They brought in Okoye who will either be a bargain or will be cut at no cost. Spencer will either be a bargain or can be cut at no cost. The Melton contract is highly favorable to the team.

Summary: They were never really in true "cap hell"; however, they did limit their ability to find bargains late in the Free Agency period some years.

 

[xwalker]

Ken Hamlin?

He said a Safety that they did not sign.

 

[Idgit]

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Going into free agency every year they could make cap space and sign significant free agents. They did max out in 2013, but they basically got the top free agent that they wanted by Franchising Spencer. If they didn't have cap space, they would have been forced to give him a long term contract to lower the cap hit.

Where they did limit themselves was by spending their budget early some years. In 2013 they spent their budget on the Spencer Franchise Tag and were not able to bid on the bargains that Seattle got with Bennett and Avril.

The change that I anticipate is that I believe that McClay is going to reserve some space and keep an eye out or bargains like Avril and Bennett later in the FA period. They brought in Davin Joseph a few weeks ago, probably just to see if he would be available at a bargain price. They brought in Okoye who will either be a bargain or will be cut at no cost. Spencer will either be a bargain or can be cut at no cost. The Melton contract is highly favorable to the team.

Summary: They were never really in true "cap hell"; however, they did limit their ability to find bargains late in the Free Agency period some years.

This is basically right. We were at the high end of the cycle after signing the corps of the young players we had for the mini-run in 2007. We'd been restricted by the cap--and I believe that was the plan--the last few years. I do think the unexpected cap penalty for Austin's deal, along with the unexpected year-one cap pinch under the new CBA put us in a position we didn't expect to be in and, frankly, should not have been in.

In any event, we're out now, and after just one season, we'll be in great shape going forward. That's not too bad, all things considered.

 

[jnday]

Michael Huff ?

That's him,lol I have been in bed with a high fever all weekend and I am still trying to think straight.

 

[Nightman]

That's him,lol I have been in bed with a high fever all weekend and I am still trying to think straight.

Wasn't he cut by Baltimore a couple weeks into the season. Most people here didn't want him at all. Same with Eric Winston the OT.

Dallas has had the space to sign anyone, just not the desire. Like Xwalker said, Spencer tagged at 10.6m was the big signing last year and then they extended Romo and Lee which required reserving future space. The cap penalty hurt and so did setting the cap at 123m coming out of the CBA, but they were never in trouble, even last year with all the injuries. They even managed to roll-over 1.2m to this year.

It's just the same old song and dance around here. The lazy media writes the "Dallas in cap hell" story every year. The members here that hate Jerry run with it to confirm their biases. Several posters. like myself, spend countless posts explaining how they are wrong, but they don't want to listen. Now that the cap is really good shape I will miss those back and forths.

 

[conner01]

Can we extend Smith after his 5th year option activates? If so get Dez and Murray done this year and Tyron before 2015

the advantage of doing smith now is it clears more cap room. he has a very high salary in the 5th year option, we are certainly going to extend him so by doing so now you clear more room to sign dez. we don't have to extend him now but it clears more money if we do

 

[big dog cowboy]

It's just the same old song and dance around here. The lazy media writes the "Dallas in cap hell" story every year. The members here that hate Jerry run with it to confirm their biases. Several posters. like myself, spend countless posts explaining how they are wrong, but they don't want to listen. Now that the cap is really good shape I will miss those back and forths.

Exactamundo except I won't miss the back and forths.