All Draft picks signed, 8.6m under the cap

jazzcat22

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Wasn't he cut by Baltimore a couple weeks into the season. Most people here didn't want him at all. Same with Eric Winston the OT.

Dallas has had the space to sign anyone, just not the desire. Like Xwalker said, Spencer tagged at 10.6m was the big signing last year and then they extended Romo and Lee which required reserving future space. The cap penalty hurt and so did setting the cap at 123m coming out of the CBA, but they were never in trouble, even last year with all the injuries. They even managed to roll-over 1.2m to this year.

It's just the same old song and dance around here. The lazy media writes the "Dallas in cap hell" story every year. The members here that hate Jerry run with it to confirm their biases. Several posters. like myself, spend countless posts explaining how they are wrong, but they don't want to listen. Now that the cap is really good shape I will miss those back and forths.

I wonder at times what are a persons definition as cap hell or cap heaven is. Maybe that's another thread. Some aren't happy unless we will be 25 million under and never spend any of it.
Then they will whine because we never sign any top FA's with the money we have, but then whine they overpaid a player and have no cap room at 8 million under to be able to sign a top FA.

To me going into the season at 8 million under is a lot.
 

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In my opinion where this team finds itself challenged against the cap is the second-tier player contracts. They are limited in being able to do short-term but mid-money deals with players like Seattle did with Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril.

Melton's deal is pretty much that. Structured a little differently but he's basically here on that sort of deal.

Saying that we are challenged on short term deals seems odd as we had the ultimate short term deals in 2012 and 2013, a player on a franchise tag.

Of course, Seattle has more flex as they are one of a handful of teams who have a franchise QB that is still on his rookie deal. A Super Bowl winning QB who made the probowl in both his seasons with a 100 passer rating is going to cost them some serious money
 

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Do your research. It was several guys that was brought in , but Dallas didn't have the cap room. There was a couple of these guys that Dallas tried to get the players to wait until after June when they would have some cap money available. IIRC, Michael Hamlin was one of the players that was brought in. It doesn't matter anyway. You have never thought that the salary cap could limit teams anyway. I bet you still think the Texans could have afforded keeping Mario Williams on the roster . I never will forget that debate. You against the whole board. You cap knowledge wasn't so good on that one. You might want to check your facts on the Cowboy's cap history and see how it has limited them from time to time before you crow about them getting things right after all these years of mismanagement. To the team's credit , they are finally catching on. Now, if they can figure out how to maintain a high level if talent while staying under the cap, they will be running the team as it should be.

We didn't have the cap room? Funny we had the cap room to sign Melton. We've had the cap room to use the franchise tag several times. We've had the cap room to sign every 2nd contract guy we've ever wanted to keep.

When you say bad cap management you need to look at teams who lose those great players they draft. What drafted players that we've wanted to keep have we let get away? I can't think of a guy we didn't lock down with a second contact.

This off season we brought in Jared Allen but didn't sign him. That's not a cap issue. That's an issue of how much we are willing to pay they guy. Those are different issues.
 

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We didn't have the cap room? Funny we had the cap room to sign Melton. We've had the cap room to use the franchise tag several times. We've had the cap room to sign every 2nd contract guy we've ever wanted to keep.

When you say bad cap management you need to look at teams who lose those great players they draft. What drafted players that we've wanted to keep have we let get away? I can't think of a guy we didn't lock down with a second contact.

This off season we brought in Jared Allen but didn't sign him. That's not a cap issue. That's an issue of how much we are willing to pay they guy. Those are different issues.

as usual you never want to admit you might be wrong.
 

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as usual you never want to admit you might be wrong.

The team might as well spend every penny they have and keep restructuring contracts every year. That was working out great. Have four of five high paid players and the rest of the roster full of jags. That seems to be what the fans want .
 

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The team might as well spend every penny they have and keep restructuring contracts every year. That was working out great. Have four of five high paid players and the rest of the roster full of jags. That seems to be what the fans want .

As opposed to this year when we have .... Romo, Witten, Carr, Lee, and Scandrick as the big contracts? I count 5 right there. It'll get even more lopsided when we pay Smith and Bryant.

And honestly, most of those restructured deals were designed to be restructured. As Stephen Jones has said several times "we don't like to sit around with cap space free" - what he meant by that is he's going to write deals that have higher cap hits in year 2, 3, etc. that are designed to restructure if everything is going well. If a guy has a questionable year, like Brandon Carr we generally don't use that option as it frees space if we decide to cut the player. Of course, you could just write a large single signing bonus as your guarantee and have zero flexibility down the line. That'd certainly be simpler for those who don't understand the cap.
 
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