All-Pro teams announced... Ware and Ratliff

[Trendnet]

Great job, Rat. Not everyone can make All-Pro at a position they shouldn't even be playing.

You know... Ratliff should be playing DE.

Or so I'm told.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

You know... Ratliff should be playing DE.

Or so I'm told.

Yeah. If only we had a 350-lb fatbody in the middle, we could really go places.

 

[AdamJT13]

Miles Austin made third-team All-Pro. Witten, Davis and Spencer are on the fourth team.

 

[DFWJC]

Miles Austin made third-team All-Pro. Witten, Davis and Spencer are on the fourth team.

If Miles had had at least one full season under his belt prior to this year, he may have been 1st team this season. I just looked at his numbers and they would justify either 1st or second team b/c he has catches, yards, and TDs.

 

[joseephuss]

Miles Austin made third-team All-Pro. Witten, Davis and Spencer are on the fourth team.

And some wanted to replace Spencer with Butler early in the year. If that had happened Butler would be at least 2nd team All-Pro.

 

[Future]

Miles Austin made third-team All-Pro. Witten, Davis and Spencer are on the fourth team.

How on earth are there 3 tight ends considered better than Jason Witten?

 

[jobberone]

Kudos to Ware and Ratliff.

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

If Miles had had at least one full season under his belt prior to this year, he may have been 1st team this season. I just looked at his numbers and they would justify either 1st or second team b/c he has catches, yards, and TDs.

Miles was 15th in the NFL in receptions with 81.

He was 3rd in receiving yards(Andre Johnson had 1569, Wes Welker 1348, Miles 1320.

He was 4th in the NFL in TDs with 11(Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss, and Vernon Davis(TE) each had 13) Roddy White and Visanthe Shiancoe(TE) also had 11

Miles had 8 40+ yard plays. Only Desean Jackson(10) and Andre Johnson(9) had more.

There is no reason to believe if Miles had started all year he wouldn't have been #1 in the league in every receiving category except catches(Welker had 123 out of the slot)

I have no doubt he'll be an all pro next year. It's pretty scary to think about the numbers he may put up next year, in his first full year as a starter.

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

How on earth are there 3 tight ends considered better than Jason Witten?

Stats. Witten was 2nd only to Dallas Clark in receptions, and 3rd to Clark and Gates in yardage, but tied for 24th in TDs. Davis, Shiancoe, and Clark all had double digit TDs, and there were a few guys with 8 TDs.

Witten is probably never going to have as many TDs in a season as he used to, because we actually have weapons on the outside. Everybody still knows how great he is, but I'm sure the guys they chose at TE for this year's All Pro team deserved it too.

 

[Phoenix]

Miles Austin made third-team All-Pro. Witten, Davis and Spencer are on the fourth team.

Anybody have a link to these 1st, 2nd, etc. All-Pro team rosters...?

 

[Smiles Baustin]

Welker should not have been there above Fitz, Miles, Reggie Wayne...

And MJD should over Steven Jackson

N Cushing hasnt been better than spencer

 

[Future]

Stats. Witten was 2nd only to Dallas Clark in receptions, and 3rd to Clark and Gates in yardage, but tied for 24th in TDs. Davis, Shiancoe, and Clark all had double digit TDs, and there were a few guys with 8 TDs.

Witten is probably never going to have as many TDs in a season as he used to, because we actually have weapons on the outside. Everybody still knows how great he is, but I'm sure the guys they chose at TE for this year's All Pro team deserved it too.

I'm not saying they didn't have good seasons...but none of them are even close to being the complete TE that Witten is. I'd give Davis a nod over him this season, maybe even Clarke, but Shiancoe? Give me a break.

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

I think they probably only take one TE on the All pro team, and Davis and Clark both had better seasons than he did this year statistically, and Shiancoe had the TDs so he will probably end up on some lists, even though we all know he's nothing special.

 

[DFWJC]

How on earth are there 3 tight ends considered better than Jason Witten?

I agree if that's what All Pro meant....but All Pro is not a vote on who is the best player historically....it is who had the best season (or maybe even who was the best player that also had the best season) THIS year.
Witten was not as good as some of the others for the entire season...though he came on strong in the end. Does that we mean would take any of them over him for our team? Absolutley not. Does that mean they should be ahead of him this year for the Pro Bowl? yes

I'd say stats-wise, Gate, Clark, V Davis, and maybe Celek and Gonzalas all had better years. Jason only had 2 TDs this year--which is bad for any starting TE. He did have lots of yards and catches again though.

 

[AdamJT13]

Anybody have a link to these 1st, 2nd, etc. All-Pro team rosters...?

Here's all of the voting --

http://blog.taragana.com/sports/2010/01/14/2009-all-pro-team-voting-65550/


NEW YORK (AP) -Results of The Associated Press 2009 NFL All-Pro balloting selected by a national panel of media members:

OFFENSE

Quarterback
Peyton Manning, Indianapolis, 36 1/2; Drew Brees, New Orleans, 12 1/2; Philip Rivers, San Diego, 1.

x-Running Backs
Chris Johnson, Tennessee, 50; Adrian Peterson, Minnesota, 17; Ray Rice, Baltimore, 12; Steven Jackson, St. Louis, 9; Maurice Jones-Drew, Jacksonville, 6; Thomas Jones, NY Jets, 3; DeAngelo Williams, Carolina, 1.

Fullback
Leonard Weaver, Philadelphia, 24; Le'Ron McClain, Baltimore, 14; Lousaka Polite, Miami, 9; Lawrence Vickers, Cleveland, 1; Tony Richardson, NY Jets, 1.

Tight End
Dallas Clark, Indianapolis, 25 1/2; Antonio Gates, San Diego, 10 1/2; Vernon Davis, San Francisco, 9; Jason Witten, Dallas, 4; Heath Miller, Pittsburgh, 1.

Wide Receivers
Andre Johnson, Houston, 44; Wes Welker, New England, 20; Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis, 12; Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona, 8; DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia, 6; Miles Austin, Dallas, 6; Vincent Jackson, San Diego, 2; Brandon Marshall, Denver, 2.

Tackles
Ryan Clady, Denver, 30; Joe Thomas, Cleveland, 18; Michael Roos, Tennessee, 12; Jake Long, Miami, 12; Jason Peters, Philadelphia, 5; Jon Stinchcomb, New Orleans, 5; Bryant McKinnie, Minnesota, 4; Michael Oher, Baltimore, 4; David Stewart, Tennessee, 3; Vernon Carey, Miami, 2; Andrew Whitworth, Cincinnati, 2; D'Brickashaw Ferguson, NY Jets, 2; Marcus McNeill, San Diego, 1; Willie Colon, Pittsburgh, 1.

Guards
Steve Hutchinson, Minnesota, 31; Jahri Evans, New Orleans, 28; Logan Mankins, New England, 12; Kris Dielman, San Diego, 9; Alan Faneca, NY Jets, 7; Chris Snee, NY Giants, 5; Leonard Davis, Dallas, 4; Carl Nicks, New Orleans, 3. Brandon Moore, NY Jets, 1.

Center
Nick Mangold, NY Jets, 31; Andre Gurode, Dallas, 9; Jeff Saturday, Indianapolis, 8; Shaun O'Hara, NY Giants, 2.

Placekicker
Nate Kaeding, San Diego, 27; David Akers, Philadelphia, 11; Sebastian Janikowski, Oakland, 8; Rob Bironas, Tennessee, 1; Stephen Gostkowski, New England, 1; Jeff Reed, Pittsburgh, 1; Olindo Mare, Seattle, 1.

Kick Returner
Joshua Cribbs, Cleveland, 45 1/2; DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia, 3 1/2; Percy Harvin, Minnesota, 1.

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DEFENSE

Ends
Jared Allen, Minnesota, 45; Dwight Freeney, Indianapolis, 36; Trent Cole, Philadelphia, 9; Julius Peppers, Carolina, 6; Robert Mathis, Indianapolis, 1; Andre Carter, Washington, 1; Randy Starks, Miami, 1; Will Smith, New Orleans, 1.

Tackles
Jay Ratliff, Dallas, 29; Kevin Williams, Minnesota, 24; Darnell Dockett, Arizona, 23; Haloti Ngata, Baltimore, 14; Vince Wilfork, New England, 6; Pat Williams, Minnesota, 1; Casey Hampton, Pittsburgh, 1; Tony Brown, Tennessee, 1; Cullen Jenkins, Green Bay, 1.

Outside Linebackers
Elvis Dumervil, Denver, 46; DaMarcus Ware, Dallas, 37; Brian Cushing, Houston, 5; LaMarr Woodley, Pittsburgh, 4; James Harrison, Pittsburgh, 3; Lance Briggs, Chicago, 3; Anthony Spencer, Dallas, 1; Shaun Phillips, San Diego, 1.

y-Inside Linebacker
Patrick Willis, San Francisco, 49; Ray Lewis, Baltimore, 13; David Harris, NY Jets, 10; Jon Beason, Carolina, 9; Jonathan Vilma, New Orleans, 7; DeMeco Ryans, Houston, 4; London Fletcher, Washington, 2; Curtis Lofton, Atlanta, 2; D.J. Williams, Denver, 1; Jerod Mayo, New England, 1; Gary Brackett, Indianapolis, 1.

Cornerbacks
Charles Woodson, Green Bay, 48; Darelle Revis, NY Jets, 48; Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland, 2; Leon Hall, Cincinnati, 1; Asante Samuel, Philadelphia, 1.

Safeties
Darren Sharper, New Orleans, 46; Minnesota, Adrian Wilson, Arizona, 29; Brian Dawkins, Philadelphia, 10; Ed Reed, Baltimore, 4; Nick Collins, Green Bay, 4; Jairus Byrd, Buffalo, 3; Bernard Pollard, Houston, 1; Antoine Bethea, Indianapolis, 1; Brandon Meriweather, New England, 1; Tyvon Branch, Oakland, 1.

Punter
Shane Lechler, Oakland, 48; Donnie Jones, Rams, 1; Andy Lee, San Francisco, 1.

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x-two voters selected only one running back.

y-one voter selected only one inside linebacker.

 

[Temo]

Vincent Jackson got TWO votes?? TWO?

He was the best WR in the league this year.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

BS Unless Austin is on it.

 

[chuffly]

Vincent Jackson got TWO votes?? TWO?

He was the best WR in the league this year.

Hard to believe that Desean Jackson got more votes than him.

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

Vincent Jackson got TWO votes?? TWO?

He was the best WR in the league this year.

You're getting a little crazy there. Jackson had almost identical stats on the season as DeSean Jackson, 60 something catches, 1150 yards, 9 TDs. Miles Austin beat him in every category, in less games. Vincent Jackson is good, but best receiver in the league he is not.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

You're getting a little crazy there. Jackson had almost identical stats on the season as DeSean Jackson, 60 something catches, 1150 yards, 9 TDs. Miles Austin beat him in every category, in less games. Vincent Jackson is good, but best receiver in the league he is not.

Far from it!

Miles and Andre are.