All the Marbles in the Romo Bag

[rwalters31]

We have the number four pick, a rare thing for us and the time to pick THE impact player for the next decade. Of all the players that Dallas can pick what position would have the most every down impact and controls the play. This criteria should be driving the Cowboys with the 4th overall pick.

Defense:
1. DL is by far the most impact full unit that controls the defensive game every play.
2. LB is the next group that will be involved if the DL misses the QB or RB.
3. Secondary is called that because it is the last line of defense and if the first two do not do their job it is their job to stop the run or pass.

Offense:
1. The QB is the player that is not only THE most impact full player every down but controls the season. (Romo now but the other two as draft picks, this one controls season)
2. The OL is the next who impacts every play either Run or Pass, they keep the QB in play and keep him verticle and prolongs his career time. (This one is good already in my opinion)
3. The next is a toss up between RB and WR, depending on the character of the offense
4. TE depending if his value is the blocking scheme or passing game

My order of value at number 4 is as follows:
1. QB - Future of Cowboys, back up to Romo, play maker, reads defenses, calls right play. ( Wentz and Goff but no other)
2. DT - Defense wins championships (Bosa)
3. RB - Controls pace of game, keeps Defense off field, stops blitzer, keeps chain moving, scores TD (Henry)
4. Secondary - Helps to produce sacks, turn overs, allows the front seven to make plays (Ramsey)
5. WR - Moves chain, keeps games going, TDs. (Best player available)

 

[LittleD]

Rebuttal: QB selected at #4 does nothing and adds nothing to us getting to the SB in the next two years. QB selected
this year will hold a clipboard, sitting on the sidelines, and eating up cap space for little benefit. DT would be valuable along with
a catalytic DE but, Bosa ain't that and there is no one that would rate investing that much cap in because none are elite there.
RB is not valued highly I agree but, this year Zeke is the one least risk, high upside player in the top ten who could dramatically
help us get to the SB during Romo's last hurrah. Witten and Romo don't have long to make it and now is time to push
Jerry's chips in the middle and Zeke helps Romo, the offense and keeps the defense off the field especially in the 4th quarter.

 

[DogFace]

Yeah, what he said.

 

[Shinaoi]

I believe in building a team for the long haul. Build around a system, like the packers and patriots. Have a contending team every year for a long stretch of time. This idea of pushing all in to try and win a Super Bowl next year isnt how you build a sports franchise.

 

[zack]

I think that you are probably right that Dallas won't pick this high again, however, neither Goff or Wentz are sure fire guaranteed franchise QBs. Their value in my opinion is more based on supply and demand.

I'm sure they are talented and all, but it's not like I heard their names for the past two years as elite college passers. In fact, I would argue that I heard little to nothing about them during the college and NFL season this past fall.

Compared to Winston and Mariota, they were hardly mentioned as up and coming QBs in the NFL.

Give me defense, not Bosa. If not defense, then give me Zeke. I want Romo and Witten to get their ring.

 

[LittleD]

I believe in building a team for the long haul. Build around a system, like the packers and patriots. Have a contending team every year for a long stretch of time. This idea of pushing all in to try and win a Super Bowl next year isnt how you build a sports franchise.

We don't have the coaching staff, QB, RB or defense built for the long haul. These QB's may turn out to be okay but, which one, what is the
statistical bust rate on the top 3 QB's in this draft? I don't see Luck in any of the top 3. We are built with this OL, Romo, Dez & Witten to win now
and have a couple of years to do it before we start having to pay this OL. Zeke is the one player in the top 10 who could push us over the top and
get us into the big show. No one else can really help us this year and even though I like Ramsey, he is not a catalytic player who gets lots
of interceptions. It you want to see us in the SB, now is the time to strike and Zeke is the player to get. IMO!

 

[rwalters31]

I think that you are probably right that Dallas won't pick this high again, however, neither Goff or Wentz are sure fire guaranteed franchise QBs. Their value in my opinion is more based on supply and demand.

I'm sure they are talented and all, but it's not like I heard their names for the past two years as elite college passers. In fact, I would argue that I heard little to nothing about them during the college and NFL season this past fall.

Compared to Winston and Mariota, they were hardly mentioned as up and coming QBs in the NFL.

Give me defense, not Bosa. If not defense, then give me Zeke. I want Romo and Witten to get their ring.

If the choices start going away at #4 and RB is the next choice I believe that the RB should match the OL blocking style. Zeke is a runner who looks to me to depend on MAN blocking and he makes the choice how he will run. Cowboys use a blocking down allowing a one cut and run for day light. That is the reason that I have Henry as the choice here. He would compiment the OL and the best blocking scheme that Dallas has.

 

[jazzcat22]

Depends if you want to win now, meaning within the next 3 seasons, or build long term, for the next 10 years to be a contender every year.
As much as we all want a SB ASAP, we also want multiplt SB's, or at least be contenders every year more. I am not in the win a SB and be content for 10 years. I want a team that competes every year.

A QB gives you that best opportunity to do that. We have a chance to pick 2 players that can help us in both regards. A QB and a bell cow RB.
There is not one defensive player that can come in and put this team over the top for now and for the long term success. Those players are needed to be obtained later rounds and learn, as it takes most players several years anyway. And this draft IMO does not have a lot of players that are separated by that much from mid 1st round through the 3rd round. but I'm no draft guru either. Just going by other sources.
Since i don't go to the liquor store, it must be the gas station guy to get info....LOL...J/K, couldn't resist.

Anyway a QB helps long term and short term as the backup, when ready. A RB helps now, by going back to a sure type of ball control. Keeping the Defense rested.
Rather we go QB / RB or RB / QB, I think it is the best way to go to do both.

However I can also see the reasoning for waiting until the 3rd round for a QB since they are all in on romo for 4 or 5 years. but still need that bell cow long term RB.

But will support Ramsey or Bosa too. Maybe even a trade down. Depending how the rest of the draft falls, we are in a good situation no matter what.

12 days to go.

 

[LittleD]

If the choices start going away at #4 and RB is the next choice I believe that the RB should match the OL blocking style. Zeke is a runner who looks to me to depend on MAN blocking and he makes the choice how he will run. Cowboys use a blocking down allowing a one cut and run for day light. That is the reason that I have Henry as the choice here. He would compiment the OL and the best blocking scheme that Dallas has.

McFadden depends on Man blocking and guess how he did last year. Zeke is about 10 times more effective at finding holes and blazing to daylight as well as getting you
3 yards on 3rd down. Zeke behind our line is going to be rookie of the year and may break Murray's record. It just makes sense cause our window to win the SB is now
not in 4 years.

 

[BigStar]

Rebuttal: QB selected at #4 does nothing and adds nothing to us getting to the SB in the next two years. QB selected
this year will hold a clipboard, sitting on the sidelines, and eating up cap space for little benefit. DT would be valuable along with
a catalytic DE but, Bosa ain't that and there is no one that would rate investing that much cap in because none are elite there.
RB is not valued highly I agree but, this year Zeke is the one least risk, high upside player in the top ten who could dramatically
help us get to the SB during Romo's last hurrah. Witten and Romo don't have long to make it and now is time to push
Jerry's chips in the middle and Zeke helps Romo, the offense and keeps the defense off the field especially in the 4th quarter.

You're right; both QBs will NOW be gone by #4. But we should have tried to move up w/TEN to actually utilize this rare position into a pick for the future. Not a stop gap or even stud RB justifies a top 5 pick at this stage. Almost down to Tunsil/Ramsey or forced trade down bc you didn't trade up, etc. Romo has missed 13 games the last two seasons. We wouldn't have paid what STL did to move up (think next year).
Our gameplan for 2016 = HOPE; Romo.

 

[DFWJC]

I believe in building a team for the long haul. Build around a system, like the packers and patriots. Have a contending team every year for a long stretch of time. This idea of pushing all in to try and win a Super Bowl next year isnt how you build a sports franchise.

I agree teams should look at the future AND the present.
However...
The Patriots have Had Brady and Belickick for all of these years...that's a huge reason why they have been contenders. If anything they DO draft to fill current holes and less for the long term. Often times--more than most teams--they don't even re-sign their drafted players to a 2nd contract.

 

[LittleD]

You're right; both QBs will NOW be gone by #4. But we should have tried to move up w/TEN to actually utilize this rare position into a pick for the future. Not a stop gap or even stud RB justifies a top 5 pick at this stage. Almost down to Tunsil/Ramsey or forced trade down bc you didn't trade up, etc. Romo has missed 13 games the last two seasons. We wouldn't have paid what STL did to move up (think next year).

I wouldn't trade up giving up next year's one for these two QB's. I don't see a Luck in either one of these guys. We are built as a team to win now. Garrett and his
coaches have this year to prove out or their all gone. Romo is down to 2-3 years to get his SB. Witten may be down to his final year. Dez will be pushing his
limit in a couple of years. We have a two year window if we can win now to add another SB trophy and we should take it. Zeke is the player most
ready to help us get there IMO. If Romo falters and the team fails this year we will be starting over anyway so why not go for it while we have our best chance. If
we don't perform and fall back to another year like last year, we'll have another shot at a top QB and maybe another Andrew Luck.

 

[DFWJC]

You're right; both QBs will NOW be gone by #4. But we should have tried to move up w/TEN to actually utilize this rare position into a pick for the future. Not a stop gap or even stud RB justifies a top 5 pick at this stage. Almost down to Tunsil/Ramsey or forced trade down bc you didn't trade up, etc. Romo has missed 13 games the last two seasons. We wouldn't have paid what STL did to move up (think next year).
Our gameplan for 2016 = HOPE; Romo.

We'll agree to disagree in this, Big.

Though we'll never know if a reasonable trade was even an option to move up to 1st overall, I'm thrilled we did not sell our draft souls on one pick this year

 

[BigStar]

I wouldn't trade up giving up next year's one for these two QB's. I don't see a Luck in either one of these guys. We are built as a team to win now. Garrett and his
coaches have this year to prove out or their all gone. Romo is down to 2-3 years to get his SB. Witten may be down to his final year. Dez will be pushing his
limit in a couple of years. We have a two year window if we can win now to add another SB trophy and we should take it. Zeke is the player most
ready to help us get there IMO. If Romo falters and the team fails this year we will be starting over anyway so why not go for it while we have our best chance. If
we don't perform and fall back to another year like last year, we'll have another shot at a top QB and maybe another Andrew Luck.

I feel both of you above, I'm just going to have to clench the cheeks every time Romo goes down for another season. Wanted to try to avoid that; even considering I may have been very wrong about both QBs being future franchise QBs, etc. Thought the timing was right but S happens, give me Ramsey or trade down. I wouldn't "hate" Bosa if erb was off the banned substance list, etc. but not to chance the 4th overall.

 

[DanTanna]

There is no better chance that Zeke will make an impact more than either QB at #4. There is a good chance he turns out like Rashaan Salaam, Curtis Ennis, Kijana Carter, Cedric Benson, Blair Thomas, Felix Jones, Darren McFadden...<--- Because most do turn out like that. They all had AWESOME tape coming out of college and bent over once they got in the League.

We need defense to stop the other teams. Lots of new players on defense. Even HOFmer Demarcus Ware couldn't drag our defense to respectability because he was surrounded by crap. Lots and lots new players.

 

[cds99]

Rebuttal: QB selected at #4 does nothing and adds nothing to us getting to the SB in the next two years. QB selected
this year will hold a clipboard, sitting on the sidelines, and eating up cap space for little benefit. DT would be valuable along with
a catalytic DE but, Bosa ain't that and there is no one that would rate investing that much cap in because none are elite there.
RB is not valued highly I agree but, this year Zeke is the one least risk, high upside player in the top ten who could dramatically
help us get to the SB during Romo's last hurrah. Witten and Romo don't have long to make it and now is time to push
Jerry's chips in the middle and Zeke helps Romo, the offense and keeps the defense off the field especially in the 4th quarter.

I agree on some of your points, others I'm sorry but I don't. When a team goes 4-12 you aren't a year or two out of a sb, period. Yes Romo still has a great game but he isn't getting younger and last year isn't the only year he is going to get hurt. Zeke would be a great addition but do you really use a 4th pick on a damned rb? Right, wrong or indifferent when you date back the last five years the leading rushers wasnt top draft prospects, with the exception of AP, and Gurley on a 1 year not proven yet.

 

[visionary]

Rebuttal: QB selected at #4 does nothing and adds nothing to us getting to the SB in the next two years. QB selected
this year will hold a clipboard, sitting on the sidelines, and eating up cap space for little benefit. DT would be valuable along with
a catalytic DE but, Bosa ain't that and there is no one that would rate investing that much cap in because none are elite there.
RB is not valued highly I agree but, this year Zeke is the one least risk, high upside player in the top ten who could dramatically
help us get to the SB during Romo's last hurrah. Witten and Romo don't have long to make it and now is time to push
Jerry's chips in the middle and Zeke helps Romo, the offense and keeps the defense off the field especially in the 4th quarter.

Rebuttal: we're not getting to the SB in the next 2 years lol

That ship has sailed

Garrett has had full support from FO, a franchise top 5-7 QB who was familiar with his system going in (a VERY unusual circumstance) and he has given us .500 record with it

Plan for the future

 

[marchetta]

Easy answer... Zeke.

1) He'll allow our OL to return to form by returning to us to our true identity. Running the ball!
2) He'll open up the passing game, by having teams fear our running game. Thus allowing Romo to return to his 2014 MVP form
3) He's the best blocking RB in the draft. So, he'll insure Romo last the entire season by picking up any "trash" that gets past the OL.
4) He'll prolong Romo's career by taking the ball out of his hands so he'll take less hits.
5) He'll keep our entire D on the sideline the majority of the game. It doesn't matter how bad a D is,, if they're spending the majority of the game on the sideline.

Name me one player in this entire draft that has that big an impact. Other players will/can make us better, but Zeke makes us contenders.

 

[JoeKing]

Rebuttal: QB selected at #4 does nothing and adds nothing to us getting to the SB in the next two years. QB selected
this year will hold a clipboard, sitting on the sidelines, and eating up cap space for little benefit. DT would be valuable along with
a catalytic DE but, Bosa ain't that and there is no one that would rate investing that much cap in because none are elite there.
RB is not valued highly I agree but, this year Zeke is the one least risk, high upside player in the top ten who could dramatically
help us get to the SB during Romo's last hurrah. Witten and Romo don't have long to make it and now is time to push
Jerry's chips in the middle and Zeke helps Romo, the offense and keeps the defense off the field especially in the 4th quarter.

Disagree, If our 4th pick QB is holding a clipboard on the sideline all season that means Romo will be on the field. This is a great thing that does improve the team over last year. No other pick will make such a difference to the overall good of the team.

 

[JoeKing]

Rebuttal: we're not getting to the SB in the next 2 years lol

That ship has sailed

Garrett has had full support from FO, a franchise top 5-7 QB who was familiar with his system going in (a VERY unusual circumstance) and he has given us .500 record with it

Plan for the future

Why is that? Is your negativity that much of an anchor for this team?