All the Marbles in the Romo Bag

[LittleD]

Disagree, If our 4th pick QB is holding a clipboard on the sideline all season that means Romo will be on the field. This is a great thing that does improve the team over last year. No other pick will make such a difference to the overall good of the team.

Disagree, The Cowboy's coaching staff would have to be able to put that QB standing on the sidelines in the game with a chance to win.
Does anyone on the board think our coaching staff has the ability to develop a QB to win. I don't... We know that Gary Brown has
some ability to develop a RB to be successful. Garrett and the QB coach...not so much!

 

[JoeKing]

Disagree, The Cowboy's coaching staff would have to be able to put that QB standing on the sidelines in the game with a chance to win.
Does anyone on the board think our coaching staff has the ability to develop a QB to win. I don't... We know that Gary Brown has
some ability to develop a RB to be successful. Garrett and the QB coach...not so much!

That's dumb. Romo kicking booty on the field is our number one option. The rookie QB can observe greatness from the sideline and get better for it.

 

[LittleD]

That's dumb. Romo kicking booty on the field is our number one option. The rookie QB can observe greatness from the sideline and get better for it.

To what benefit. The only way a rookie QB improves is game experience. He can look at Romo till the cows come home and
it wouldn't help that much unless you have a QB guru coach on the team which the Cowboys don't.

 

[JW82]

And that bag is made of tissue paper..smart

 

[JoeKing]

To what benefit. The only way a rookie QB improves is game experience. He can look at Romo till the cows come home and
it wouldn't help that much unless you have a QB guru coach on the team which the Cowboys don't.

Aaron Rodgers benefitted, Romo benefitted from sitting and being mentored a few seasons. Your theory is busted.

 

[LittleD]

Aaron Rodgers benefitted, Romo benefitted from sitting and being mentored a few seasons. Your theory is busted.

You have some distorted history my friend. Rogers benefitted from a coaching staff in GB that could develop him and let him have time to learn. Romo benefitted from Parcells, Peyton & Lee who knew something about developing QB's and let him have time to learn. If we select a QB this year, even if the coaches could develop him, Romo would still be playing 3 years from now and the rookies would still be standing around. Jerry is going to stick with Romo until he retires just like Aikman.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I think this is his last shot.

I always said it would an "Elway-type" super bowl win.
Get him a Terrell Davis and we win.

Now, I say he has two "Elway-ways"
Build a crazy good defense. Peyton wasn't worth a squat last year.

But it worked.

I'll take either "Elway-ways" at this point!


He will and should be defined by the lack of success in playoffs. This wipes. It clean. It did for Elway (Broncos are one of the worst, simply horrible, representatives for a team in super bowl. 5 super bowl losses, all by blowout).... The two Elway super bowl.... Wipes it clean in many ways.

Romo to be on his (El)way to that Final destination.

 

[JoeKing]

You have some distorted history my friend. Rogers benefitted from a coaching staff in GB that could develop him and let him have time to learn. Romo benefitted from Parcells, Peyton & Lee who knew something about developing QB's and let him have time to learn. If we select a QB this year, even if the coaches could develop him, Romo would still be playing 3 years from now and the rookies would still be standing around. Jerry is going to stick with Romo until he retires just like Aikman.

I like the argument. I hope Romo does play 3 more years but only like the assassin gunslinger he has been in the past. And then the heir apparent can take over and we can keep on kicking booty.

 

[LittleD]

I like the argument. I hope Romo does play 3 more years but only like the assassin gunslinger he has been in the past. And then the heir apparent can take over and we can keep on kicking booty.

If we take Zeke, Romo doesn't have to be the gunslinger. He can just be the machine that carves up defenses and takes us all the way to the promised land. This
next two years could be Elway part two but, not in Denver. Time for Romo to get his ticket to Canton.

 

[Idgit]

Passing effectiveness wins games. The RB doesn't matter unless he helps with that. Backup QB could well be one of the most important positions on this team the next two years. After that, it's the most important position. If we're in position to take one, we'd be fools not to.

If the QBs are gone, we need to make it harder for the other guys to pass, so, defense.

Zeke's a luxury we shouldn't afford. No thanks.

 

[visionary]

Why is that? Is your negativity that much of an anchor for this team?

Yes, it is the facts (my "negativity") and not the poor coaching, lack of discipline and accountability and poor FO decisions that has caused 20+ years of mediocrity

May be helpful to open your eyes and think for yourself once in s while

 

[JoeKing]

Yes, it is the facts (my "negativity") and not the poor coaching, lack of discipline and accountability and poor FO decisions that has caused 20+ years of mediocrity

May be helpful to open your eyes and think for yourself once in s while

Open my eyes... as opposed to keeping them closed and being a visionary.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Rebuttal: QB selected at #4 does nothing and adds nothing to us getting to the SB in the next two years. QB selected
this year will hold a clipboard, sitting on the sidelines, and eating up cap space for little benefit. DT would be valuable along with
a catalytic DE but, Bosa ain't that and there is no one that would rate investing that much cap in because none are elite there.
RB is not valued highly I agree but, this year Zeke is the one least risk, high upside player in the top ten who could dramatically
help us get to the SB during Romo's last hurrah. Witten and Romo don't have long to make it and now is time to push
Jerry's chips in the middle and Zeke helps Romo, the offense and keeps the defense off the field especially in the 4th quarter.

The highlighted portion indicates you are thinking short term and not long term.

So, what happens when Romo's career ends with injury or retirement.

And unless you are Made Cleo, please spare me the prognostication that he has four or five years left. Romo has one of the most serious injuries to a older football player ever.

A bank full of money and a wife and kids, and a guaranteed job making millions talking about the game on TV after his retirement.

Not to mention he could very well pick up the sticks and with his competitiveness hire a tutor and set his sights on the senior tour.

If you are lamenting about Witten and Romo and their time left, thank the guy who wasted seasons with the wrong coaches, the wrong players, and certainly the wrong GM.

The future is now.

 

[hutch1254]

Rebuttal: QB selected at #4 does nothing and adds nothing to us getting to the SB in the next two years. QB selected
this year will hold a clipboard, sitting on the sidelines, and eating up cap space for little benefit.

I can't agree with the first part of your take. Selecting a QB extends our chances of competing for a SB beyond the 2 to 3 years Romo may have left. Otherwise all we're looking at is a 2 year window and then another block of Hutch, Henson, Carter crapfest for 5 years that will blow up the Rant Zone section of this website.

The Colts are a unique example but they ate one crap year and have/will compete for the playoffs and SB for about 20 yrs straight with Manning and Luck when it's all said and done. Same with Green Bay Favre to Rodgers.

 

[LittleD]

The highlighted portion indicates you are thinking short term and not long term.

So, what happens when Romo's career ends with injury or retirement.

And unless you are Made Cleo, please spare me the prognostication that he has four or five years left. Romo has one of the most serious injuries to a older football player ever.

A bank full of money and a wife and kids, and a guaranteed job making millions talking about the game on TV after his retirement.

Not to mention he could very well pick up the sticks and with his competitiveness hire a tutor and set his sights on the senior tour.

If you are lamenting about Witten and Romo and their time left, thank the guy who wasted seasons with the wrong coaches, the wrong players, and certainly the wrong GM.

The future is now.

If he is injured and retires, that season will be like last year and we'll be drafting in the top 5 again. We will most likely get an experienced QB to serve as a bridge and
give our new rookie QB from that year a year to learn. Best case scenario.

 

[visionary]

Open my eyes... as opposed to keeping them closed and being a visionary.

Weak sauce as usual

 

[LittleD]

I can't agree with the first part of your take. Selecting a QB extends our chances of competing for a SB beyond the 2 to 3 years Romo may have left. Otherwise all we're looking at is a 2 year window and then another block of Hutch, Henson, Carter crapfest for 5 years that will blow up the Rant Zone section of this website.

The Colts are a unique example but they ate one crap year and have/will compete for the playoffs and SB for about 20 yrs straight with Manning and Luck when it's all said and done. Same with Green Bay Favre to Rodgers.

Repeat: None of the QB's in this year's draft class is even close to Andrew Luck. If we happen to draft a big, costly bust we will suffer more longer than just 3 years.

 

[JoeKing]

Weak sauce as usual

Then why did it BURN!

 

[TwoDeep3]

If he is injured and retires, that season will be like last year and we'll be drafting in the top 5 again. We will most likely get an experienced QB to serve as a bridge and
give our new rookie QB from that year a year to learn. Best case scenario.

That assumes so much. That he was not playing well enough to win games up until the injury or decision to retire,

Just realize this draft pick Dallas has is the first since 1989 where the team came by it naturally without a trade. Go read the Bob Sturm article on how this pick has more intrinsic value than any we've had in decades because of how it was gained, the circumstances the team is in, and this pick should be one that secures the face of this franchise into the next decade.

Then go look at the bridge this team had after Aikman and before Romo.

Two words sum it up.

Quincy Carter.

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[SDCowboy]

Rebuttal: QB selected at #4 does nothing and adds nothing to us getting to the SB in the next two years. QB selected
this year will hold a clipboard, sitting on the sidelines, and eating up cap space for little benefit. DT would be valuable along with
a catalytic DE but, Bosa ain't that and there is no one that would rate investing that much cap in because none are elite there.
RB is not valued highly I agree but, this year Zeke is the one least risk, high upside player in the top ten who could dramatically
help us get to the SB during Romo's last hurrah. Witten and Romo don't have long to make it and now is time to push
Jerry's chips in the middle and Zeke helps Romo, the offense and keeps the defense off the field especially in the 4th quarter.

I want Romo to get a SB as much as the next guy, but lets be real here...the odds of this current team winning the SB are extremely slim. I'd rather start building for the future than to put all the eggs in this year's basket, and blow a real chance to get Romo's eventual (hopefully) heir.

Say we don't make a SB run the next two year, and then Romo retires. Then what? We have to have another 4-12 season or worse to get another draft pick like we have now?

I say go for the QB now while we have a real shot at one, and then build for this coming season with the remaining picks. Said QB can then learn behind one of the best in the game for a year or two.