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[YosemiteSam]

Shatner is a terrible actor.

What? You're kidding right? Shatner is one of the most well respected actors in show business. He is incredibly talented. Even Christopher Plummer knew he was great when Shatner was his understudy in 1956 for Shakespeare's Henry V. I'm not just talking about his work in ST either.

Plummer got sick one night and couldn't go on, so Shatner went on in his place. He said after seeing him play Henry V, Plummer was quoted as saying, "I knew then that the S.O.B. was going to be a 'star.'"

Shatner has been on TV / Movies since the early 50s. He has always had steady work his entire career. To say he is a terrible actor is utterly ridiculous.

 

[CashMan]

What? You're kidding right? Shatner is one of the most well respected actors in show business. He is incredibly talented. Even Christopher Plummer knew he was great when Shatner was his understudy in 1956 for Shakespeare's Henry V. I'm not just talking about his work in ST either.

Plummer got sick one night and couldn't go on, so Shatner went on in his place. He said after seeing him play Henry V, Plummer was quoted as saying, "I knew then that the S.O.B. was going to be a 'star.'"

Shatner has been on TV / Movies since the early 50s. He has always had steady work his entire career. To say he is a terrible actor is utterly ridiculous.

I.........................don't................know..............how to respond........................Ya, he is a GREAT actor.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I will give you nostalgia, but it was not the be all end all of the ST universe. TNG is light years in front of it, IMO. I do enjoy the TOS movies except #1 and #5, but Shatner is a terrible actor.

TOS was light years ahead of it's time. It dealt with concepts that were not even in the main stream at the time. Looking back on it, sure, it's not a great series but your talking 40 years of effects and knowledge that we now have. Crappy Entertainment does not last this long and have the sustained following Star Trek has unless it was superior Entertainment in some way.

 

[CashMan]

TOS was light years ahead of it's time. It dealt with concepts that were not even in the main stream at the time. Looking back on it, sure, it's not a great series but your talking 40 years of effects and knowledge that we now have. Crappy Entertainment does not last this long and have the sustained following Star Trek has unless it was superior Entertainment in some way.

Thats what I was saying. It was not a great series.

 

[DallasEast]

It may be debatable, for whatever reason, that The Original Series was or was not a great series. However, it cannot be (sanely) debated whether it was a legendary one.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I.........................don't................know..............how to respond........................Ya, he is a GREAT actor.

He has (2) Emmys (should that be ies? I would think so, but it just doesn't look right) and a Golden Globe award.

I suppose you have to seriously suck as an actor to get those. I mean they pass those out like cards in a Vegas casino.

 

[CashMan]

He has (2) Emmys (should that be ies? I would think so, but it just doesn't look right) and a Golden Globe award.

I suppose you have to seriously suck as an actor to get those. I mean they pass those out like cards in a Vegas casino.

I am not going to argue with a fanboy. Shatner is not a good actor period.

 

[YosemiteSam]

When Star Trek came out, it was revolutionary. So much that many people didn't like it because it was so different from what they were used too. It dealt with topics nobody was willing to touch.

In it's time it was great. It was still good in the 70s and early 80s.

You guys are looking at the audio / video quality and damning it for being made in 1966. It's absolutely ignorant to compare TOS to TNG or DS9. That is like comparing Charlie Chaplin movies to Black Sheep Squadron or Hogan's Heros. You can't fairly do that.

Besides, TV show making of this type was still in it's infancy in the 1960s. It's like damning your parents for being ****ty people because they were born 20+ years before you were.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I am not going to argue with a fanboy. Shatner is not a good actor period.

Fan boy? lol. I think you've already proved you know more about ST episodes than I do. I can name maybe 3-4 though all the series. Let me guess, the only Shanter work you've seen is Star Trek right? It has to be.

 

[CashMan]

Fan boy? lol. I think you've already proved you know more about ST episodes than I do. I can name maybe 3-4 though all the series. Let me guess, the only Shanter work you've seen is Star Trek right? It has to be.

What would you call someone who is arguing that a terrible actor is such a good one? Sorry, Shatner Fanboy.

 

[YosemiteSam]

What would you call someone who is arguing that a terrible actor is such a good one? Sorry, Shatner Fanboy.

You didn't answer my question. Have you actually watched any of his work other than Star Trek? You are judging a guy on work made 50 years ago. The guy has career longevity (beyond just Star Trek) and awards that signify he is a great actor. (that aren't Star Trek related)

/youlose

 

[ScipioCowboy]

TOS is not only an excellent series, it was iconic and trend-setting. The greatness of an older series is not negated by the fact that it doesn't conform to modern production conventions. That's myopic thinking.

 

[CashMan]

You didn't answer my question. Have you actually watched any of his work other than Star Trek? You are judging a guy on work made 50 years ago. The guy has career longevity (beyond just Star Trek) and awards that signify he is a great actor. (that aren't Star Trek related)

/youlose

What are you referring to? Rescue 911, ya I watched that. All the direct to videos, no not them. Boston Legal, no. Tj Hooker, nope. What other masterpieces are you speaking of?

 

[CashMan]

TOS is not only an excellent series, it was iconic and trend-setting. The greatness of an older series is not negated by the fact that it doesn't conform to modern production conventions. That's myopic thinking.

Who said anything about it being old? I am not comparing production values.

 

[DallasEast]

Speaking of Emmys, Roddenberry and crew had some favorable critics of their work:

http://www.emmys.com/shows/star-trek

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Thats what I was saying. It was not a great series.

I don't know about what you were saying prior to but I do believe that TOS was one of the truly great landmark series of all time.

 

[MonsterD]

I can say one day I was flippin around and saw a movie from the 50's or like 1960. So I thought the topic was funny about demons and then I saw William Shatner, so I watched it. It ended up being a foreign film noir(art film) set in Italy dealing with the occult. I was pretty shocked because not only was Shatner speaking Italian but he was doing a straightforward acting style, not his usual off timing word emphasis. The film itself was not that great, but his performance was pretty good, food for thought since I think he developed his off-kilter way of acting with Star Trek and just kept it in subsequent roles, at least to some degree.

 

[Aikmaniac]

I can say one day I was flippin around and saw a movie from the 50's or like 1960. So I thought the topic was funny about demons and then I saw William Shatner, so I watched it. It ended up being a foreign film noir(art film) set in Italy dealing with the occult. I was pretty shocked because not only was Shatner speaking Italian but he was doing a straightforward acting style, not his usual off timing word emphasis. The film itself was not that great, but his performance was pretty good, food for thought since I think he developed his off-kilter way of acting with Star Trek and just kept it in subsequent roles, at least to some degree.

He was great in the plane-alien episode of Twilight Zone.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Who said anything about it being old? I am not comparing production values.

So, rather than being wrong for the wrong reasons, you're just wrong for the sake of being wrong. Got it!

 

[YosemiteSam]

What are you referring to? Rescue 911, ya I watched that. All the direct to videos, no not them. Boston Legal, no. Tj Hooker, nope. What other masterpieces are you speaking of?

lol, Shatner hosted Rescue 911. He didn't act in it. (btw, I never watched a single episode of Rescue 911)

So, it's clear. The only thing you ever saw with him was Star Trek, yet you are declaring with athority that Shatner is a ****ty actor.

You fail because....