Almost no harm done

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I know a lot of us are sore after our loss to Buffalo. However, almost no harm was done. The Eagles loss to the Seahawks last night means that if we can win the remainder of our games, and, if Tommy DeVito is playing and can lead the Giants to beating Philly at least once, we might be back in the division race. Somehow, the Giants are still in contention for a playoff spot (https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2023-24-new-york-giants-odds-odds-to-win-super-bowl-nfl-playoffs-division#:~:text=The Giants have a 0.2,of earning a playoff spot.), albeit not very high. We were probably going to need the Giants to win one against Philly regardless of how the game against the Bills finished in case we dropped one. Let's face it, starting with the start of the Cowboys win streak, we were asking the Cowboys to win 9 consecutive games and still need a bit of help. Naturally, this is the NFL, and winning 9 games in a row is especially difficult.

If the Cowboys can beat the Dolphins, who knows? Maybe the Cowboys can start another winning streak? Especially with the Lions (as good as they are) at home, where we dominate this season, and the Commanders at the end of the season, I don't think this season is over yet. Especially since Philly seems to be floundering a bit. So, as bad as the loss to the Bills was, this division race is far from over.
The Eagles finish with three layups.

Dallas has two playoffs teams and a layup.
 

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I don’t agree really, while you are correct in theory we are in the same position in regards to winning the division as before the Buffalo loss, the game in Buffalo was more a test about this teams ability this year Imo. Buffalo is a good team who was a test for us regardless of their record. They’ve shown they can play at very high levels- they beat kc, should have beat Philly and beat Miami earlier in the year.

Going into Buffalo and winning against a desperate team would have really shown me a lot in regards to this teams character and ceiling. Now, I’m not saying our season is over or we are doomed but losing HOW we did wasn’t encouraging at all. We were just punked terribly.

The division stuff was always secondary to me with the Buffalo game.
 

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It's still a complete long shot my man I don't wanna be overconfident here but Detroit and Miami are track meets... They are right up there with us in point differentials they can put it on you real quick it just takes a bounce here or there a person slips on a coverage or you know misses a tackle in the hole and Gibbs is gone dude these dudes are fast Miami and Detroit they have dangerous offenses just like ours they also have inconsistent defense just like ours I mean these are some crazy like even matchups coming up....

Oh, no doubt it's a long shot. However, like I said, I felt we were always going to need the Giants help to have a chance to win the division after the first Cowboys Eagles game. So, the loss to Buffalo didn't really change that thought process much as I figured we'd lose one down the stretch.
 

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It's pretty clear how to beat the Cowboys. Arizona did it. SF did it. Buffalo did it. Unfortunately we don't really have the pieces on defense to adjust. With that said, I still think we could go toe-to-toe with some NFC teams in the playoffs with the exception of the 49ers. Not only are they good, they have our number. I'd say our sliver of hope against SF is that Dallas just gets up for that game and plays their best football. Time will tell.

If Jerry actually wanted to make the most of the season, then he would sign Suh. He at least brings physicality and can help us shut down the run.
 

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Ok, here’s how I see it.
If the Cowboys and Eagles end up with identical records, here’s how it looks.
Tie-breakers:
1. Head-to-head: tie
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage within the division: as of now, they’ve only lost to each other. The Eagles have 2 games against the Giants, and the Cowboys have 1 against the Commanders.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games: right now the Cowboys have the advantage, having beaten the Jets and Seahawks, and the Eagles beating the Bills. Most of the remaining games will play into this, as the Eagles have already beaten the Dolphins and Commanders, and the Cowboys have already beaten the Giants and lost to the Cardinals. Will be interesting if it comes down to this.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage within the conference: they currently have 3 losses each within the conference. Cowboys have 2 conference games remaining, Eagles have 3
5. Strength of victory: Cowboys should have this, with all of their blowouts
6. Strength of schedule: I’d say Eagles
Doubt it will go past here.
 
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I don’t agree really, while you are correct in theory we are in the same position in regards to winning the division as before the Buffalo loss, the game in Buffalo was more a test about this teams ability this year Imo. Buffalo is a good team who was a test for us regardless of their record. They’ve shown they can play at very high levels- they beat kc, should have beat Philly and beat Miami earlier in the year.

Going into Buffalo and winning against a desperate team would have really shown me a lot in regards to this teams character and ceiling. Now, I’m not saying our season is over or we are doomed but losing HOW we did wasn’t encouraging at all. We were just punked terribly.

The division stuff was always secondary to me with the Buffalo game.

For me, the division is my primary focus until it's officially settled. To me, I felt we would probably lose one, and Buffalo was the likely loss on our remaining schedule following our first Eagles game (assuming we beat the Eagles in the second game, which we did). I wasn't expecting us to get slammed like we did, but December in Buffalo (trust me, I live in Cleveland) is incredibly tough. This is especially given that they were likely eliminated if we had beaten them. However, if we want any chance at the division, we can't lose another game this season.
 

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After the showing in Buffalo, what could it hurt? I agree.

And that's the move imo. Especially since Philly did that this time last year, and they wound up in the SB. I'd say bring him in, and see if he can fill the gap. That is unless Hankins will be back, but we can't wait another game for that. We have to win every one of our games to have a chance at the division.
 

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After the showing in Buffalo, what could it hurt? I agree.
Look first up I'm not against this but I don't see any real big reason to do this right now... Now I'm telling you if you have another game like this in a row maybe the Cowboys do something like this....

How do you know he's got anything the dude sat out there for 15 weeks with no offseason, no training, and you think that he can play better than what's on our team that's been practicing??

look dude, it's a crapshoot anybody you bring in to fill holes this late in the season probably not going to work out,

ask the Eagles about that everybody they brought in since the trade deadline has not worked.... They even changed coordinators and it still didn't change the fact that they lost look at it hurt it takes away a roster spot from somebody and while I'm not totally against it don't get me wrong I just don't see where you think it's gonna help getting a guy who's been sitting on the bench all year he hasn't even had training camp or practice and you're going to bring him in with three games left and expect him to make plays how do we know he's just not washed literally two weeks ago they said he was working out and looking for a team to get on why is he still not on a team??
 

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Ok, here’s how I see it.
If the Cowboys and Eagles end up with identical records, here’s how it looks.
Tie-breakers:
1. Head-to-head: tie
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage within the division: as of now, they’ve only lost to each other. The Eagles have 2 games against the Giants, and the Cowboys have 1 against the Commanders.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games: right now the Cowboys gave the advantage, having beaten the Jets and Seahawks, and the Eagles beating the Bills. Most of the remaining games will play into this, as the Eagles have already beaten the Dolphins and Commanders, and the Cowboys have already beaten the Giants and lost to the Cardinals. Will be interesting if it comes down to this.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage within the conference: they currently have 3 losses each within the conference. Cowboys have 2 conference games remaining, Eagles have 3
5. Strength of victory: Cowboys should have this, with all of their blowouts
6. Strength of schedule: I’d say Eagles
Doubt it will go past here.
Common opponents will be a wash when Philly beats Arizona and Dallas has to beat Miami. The strength of victory has nothing to do with blowouts, it is the combined record of teams they beat and Philly has that one by five games.
 

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Common opponents will be a wash when Philly beats Arizona and Dallas has to beat Miami. The strength of victory has nothing to do with blowouts, it is the combined record of teams they beat and Philly has that one by five games.
Wouldn’t that be strength of schedule, not strength of victory?
 

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I don't care if we win anything. I just hope dak gets MVP and some pretty stats.
 

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Wouldn’t that be strength of schedule, not strength of victory?
No, SOV is the combined record of the games they won. Strength of schedule is the combined record of all the teams on their schedule, won and lost. Point differentials come into play later just before the coin flip.
 

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Dallas and the Shegals will lose and the standings will remain the same heading into next week. Thats my prediction. Bills are a better team right now than they were when the Eagles stole 1 from them. Bills found a running game outside of Allen, which makes them very dangerous.
They won’t win or lose because of Cook. Hes going to get his 12-17 rushes and 65-100 yards. The D needs to force Allen into a few picks and long field goal tries.

I feel confident in our team. Yes, Buffalo has improved with Brady as their OC over Dorsey. But their defense isn’t great and is exploitable
 
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