Am I just too much a Dallas homer that I take for granted that Philadelphia is overrated?

[kskboys]

Philly's problem is their one dimensional QB, and then add in that he can't keep his mouth shut.

 

[baltcowboy]

Inviting others to speak some sanity into my brain. I'm just very, very hard pressed to convince that last season's debacle of a 2nd half in PHI was somehow a one-off, and that their strained faith that Siriani/Hurts can pull it together even having lost arguably the soul of both their O-line (Kelce) and their D-line (Cox) won't prove to be foolish.

Talk some sense into me.

I hate the Eagles too but they have used free agency, trades, and the draft to improve their weaknesses. Their owner basically blamed last season on the coaching staff and this will be their head coach’s last chance. This could really blow up in their face like the dream team year. I don’t think you can pay all your players and Eagles basically did. In football you need players that are hungry for a big payday.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Philly has been overrated for a decade, particularly on the defensive side of the ball.

 

[RonWashington]

Multiple SB trips since Dallas has been to one . Always at the top of the division or near it and again I expect them and Dallas to fight for the East and perhaps a first round bye. No not overrated . It’s just that it’s a two team division most yrs, the other 2 are garbage .

 

[NeathBlue]

Inviting others to speak some sanity into my brain. I'm just very, very hard pressed to convince that last season's debacle of a 2nd half in PHI was somehow a one-off, and that their strained faith that Siriani/Hurts can pull it together even having lost arguably the soul of both their O-line (Kelce) and their D-line (Cox) won't prove to be foolish.

Talk some sense into me.

They’re a good team, very good in fact, as long as they are winning…
But once things go against them and they start losing, they fall apart through lack of discipline and accountability.

 

[mcmvp]

@Aerolithe_Lion @mcmvp Want to chime in?

Hard to say. They ending last season so badly, I understand the skepticism of some. Sure they’ve made moves to address the issues, Howie always does. He’s a great GM, but he’s not perfect. Not everything he does is automatically going to turn to gold. I am at least content at his effort for the time being.

I think they are being overrated by some, and probably underrated by others. No one really know what kind of team they have until at least 4-5 games are played. I remember Madden used to say it wasn’t until Thanksgiving that you could feel confident.

 

[JustChip]

Brazil. 4800 miles South of Philly.

Well, the Eagles should feel right at home in that crime ridden cesspool.

 

[kskboys]

I hate the Eagles too but they have used free agency, trades, and the draft to improve their weaknesses. Their owner basically blamed last season on the coaching staff and this will be their head coach’s last chance. This could really blow up in their face like the dream team year. I don’t think you can pay all your players and Eagles basically did. In football you need players that are hungry for a big payday.

No, they paid the wrong ones. In paying Hurts and their WR's, they let their D walk. 4 starters were let go before the season in 23, and it showed.

KC provided the template. You pay your QB and you pay your D disruptors. Philly desperately missed Hargraves' 11 sacks from the DT position, and missed the excellent play and leadership from the MLB position. And then they also let walk their 2 starting S's. Idiots.

Philly apparently missed the fact that a large factor in their super bowl appearance was the #2 D in the NFL.

 

[kskboys]

Hard to say. They ending last season so badly, I understand the skepticism of some. Sure they’ve made moves to address the issues, Howie always does. He’s a great GM, but he’s not perfect. Not everything he does is automatically going to turn to gold. I am at least content at his effort for the time being.

I think they are being overrated by some, and probably underrated by others. No one really know what kind of team they have until at least 4-5 games are played. I remember Madden used to say it wasn’t until Thanksgiving that you could feel confident.

They have? What? More WR's and a washed up RB?

 

[baltcowboy]

No, they paid the wrong ones. In paying Hurts and their WR's, they let their D walk. 4 starters were let go before the season in 23, and it showed.

KC provided the template. You pay your QB and you pay your D disruptors. Philly desperately missed Hargraves' 11 sacks from the DT position, and missed the excellent play and leadership from the MLB position. And then they also let walk their 2 starting S's. Idiots.

Philly apparently missed the fact that a large factor in their super bowl appearance was the #2 D in the NFL.

The Eagles are betting on Carter and his Georgia teammate to be Hargrove and the retired defensive tackle. Paying for a running back and safety also was foolish. At least they are trying unlike the Joneses.

 

[ArtClink]

Inviting others to speak some sanity into my brain. I'm just very, very hard pressed to convince that last season's debacle of a 2nd half in PHI was somehow a one-off, and that their strained faith that Siriani/Hurts can pull it together even having lost arguably the soul of both their O-line (Kelce) and their D-line (Cox) won't prove to be foolish.

Talk some sense into me.

All I know is the Eagles spent $100 million more than Jerry did in the offseason to improve their roster. Plus, most sportswriters think their GM is in the top five best.

That said, I don't how they will look this season. Their WR corp is scary good and considered one of the best.

Our success depends on two things. Dak staying healthy and our defense having a great year esp against the run.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

That’s a small campsite!

Only in an internet forum full of homers.

The professionals in the NFL view it differently.

 

[Brax]

Well they’ve got KM calling the offense so that’s a huge obstacle they won’t be able to survive. We’ll be seeing a lot of Philthy fans here crying.

So having the number one O when he was here makes him a obstacle, funny how your brain works

 

[shabazz]

Inviting others to speak some sanity into my brain. I'm just very, very hard pressed to convince that last season's debacle of a 2nd half in PHI was somehow a one-off, and that their strained faith that Siriani/Hurts can pull it together even having lost arguably the soul of both their O-line (Kelce) and their D-line (Cox) won't prove to be foolish.

Talk some sense into me.

Roster, Roster, Roster

If they receive competent coaching they should be in the top 4 NFC teams.

Picking kellen moore as OC gives me a glimmer of hope that they may fail

 

[shabazz]

Hurts is a gigantic question mark after last year. And they lost a lot of veteran leadership when Kelce and Cox retired. We are going nowhere fast given we are stuck with Dak but I wouldn't be shocked if the Eagles have some troubles as well. But I think they finish above us

To be fair, Dakota had an awful season 2 years ago but bounced back and lowered those interceptions ( he saved them for the Packers) and Hurts may very well bounce back as well

 

[Nova]

No, they paid the wrong ones. In paying Hurts and their WR's, they let their D walk. 4 starters were let go before the season in 23, and it showed.

KC provided the template. You pay your QB and you pay your D disruptors. Philly desperately missed Hargraves' 11 sacks from the DT position, and missed the excellent play and leadership from the MLB position. And then they also let walk their 2 starting S's. Idiots.

Philly apparently missed the fact that a large factor in their super bowl appearance was the #2 D in the NFL.

I think they overrated their 2022 defense and thought they could get by with a little less. In reality, that defense never really faced a competent passing game until they got to the SB.

The DL was nasty, and it masked a lot.

 

[shabazz]

No no, I like where this thread is going

The roster is impressive for the Eagles.....but it was in 2011 too so we have to see if it comes to fruition

You didn't think I was gonna not bring up Vince Youngs Dream Team, lol

But no matter what, yall win the GM battle....and it not even close

 

[BoyzBlaster]

To be fair, Dakota had an awful season 2 years ago but bounced back and lowered those interceptions ( he saved them for the Packers) and Hurts may very well bounce back as well

Agreed If Hurts reverts to super bowl form we're in trouble he was really good that year

 

[mcmvp]

They have? What? More WR's and a washed up RB?

lol. My mistake. Maybe they weren’t almost dead last in pass D last year. Maybe they didn’t bring back CJGJ and draft two top CBs and bring in Fangio.

 

[blueblood70]

All I know is the Eagles spent $100 million more than Jerry did in the offseason to improve their roster. Plus, most sportswriters think their GM is in the top five best.

That said, I don't how they will look this season. Their WR corp is scary good and considered one of the best.

Our success depends on two things. Dak staying healthy and our defense having a great year esp against the run.

So you're trying to tell me their season doesn't depend on jalen hurts staying healthy? You trying to tell me there is no drop off between Hurtz and their backup? You're trying to tell me if there's safeties in linebackers have a problem stopping the run which is possible or they're so susceptible to the past still that it won't matter but that's not what their teams depending on I mean you say things and people around here say things that pretty much can apply to all teams their starters are important and there's a big drop off between the number ones and number twos for good reason nobody has that kind of depth....

Yes it annoys me that I read things like that as if they're quarterback that they're going into the season with isn't very important you don't think Kansas City would be in trouble if Mahomes went down you think with the rest of that talent that you think they're going to cover that up which by the way I don't even know who their backup is but what if?

That's what I heard if Patrick mahomes doesn't stay healthy and they lose Chris Jones they're in big trouble... UMMMMM, OK..