Am I the only one?

[LittleBoyBlue]

Din't you ever hear the expression, "luck is a matter of preparation meeting opportunity?"

Bingo!

 

[Doomsday101]

That's all I'm saying.

Glad to be where we are, a win is a win, .. but we could be singing a different tune very VERY easily.
We would still be sitting here with a great OLine, a great RB, a great running game, a great QB, an improving defense, the same as we are now, .. but be 3-3.
After all of the improvements we have seen, we are two miracles from right where we were last season, .. and that scares me.

True but you can come out of almost any game saying had we not done this or that we could have won. Yes we have things to improve on, 95% of the time a team will come out of a game and there are things they need to improve on. Had we not have 3 turnovers vs 9ers who knows we could be 6-0. I get that Dallas has thing to improve on and after the Giants game I'm sure we will have things to improve on. One thing for sure the coaches do have these guys ready to play no one is going to Seattle making the mistakes we did and still beat them. No doubt Dallas needs to continue to work and clean up these mistakes.

 

[mahoneybill]

I am not a believer in luck.

But all the accolades about building this offensive line are balanced on Martin and his outstanding play.

Had other teams chosen differently, Martin could have belonged to another team.

If Jerry hadn't come to his senses, or at least been physically restrained, Manziel would be watching from the sidelines and the discussion would have been different around these here parts.

Fate is capricious.

Agree that staying with the " backup plan" and getting Martin has payed dividends. Johnny F would have been " entertainment" instead of the results we are seeing now in selecting Martin.

 

[ccb04]

As good as we have looked, as fun as it has been watching the running game, and as impressive as it was to beat Seattle and be 5-1, ... we are very very close to being the same old 3-3.

Wait, don't scream and crucify me just yet.

I am as happy as anybody.

But we were down 21-0 in a game this year, .. not good. You don't always win after trailing 21-0.

Then against the Texans we win because on 3rd and 8 Dez makes an All-Time highlight catch to save the game. If that ball is not caught, which it very easily could not have been, we are punting in OT and possibly losing.

Against the Seahawks it was 3rd and 20 and TWill makes another All-Time highlight catch to save the game. That pass could have very easily been incomplete. If we punt there, Seattle has the ball with about 5:00 left. We could have very easily lost that game.

So while we are all thrilled at 5-1, with a different bounce here and there each game it could have gone the other way.

That old saying, "you have to be good, but you have to be lucky too."

We are good, no doubt, .. but we have been lucky as well.

That of course can be flipped around as well. If not for turnovers...the Texans & Seahawks games don't need to come down to the Dez & TWill catches. The Rams game also involved more turnovers...including a pick 6 TD.

Interestingly, even with the reigning Super Bowl champs getting 17 points off of unforced turnovers and a missed special teams assignment...the Cowboys STILL won in Seattle. Conversely, the Seahawks had 3 TD's called back vs. the Skins in Washington, and STILL won by 10 points.

The one thing I want to see them do besides stay as healthy as possible...is to greatly limit their turnovers. More problematic, is that several of the turnovers have directly led to TD's, or have occurred in the redzone. Limit those, and some of those games aren't as close. Continue the trend...and it's gonna bite them in the arse.

 

[Joe Realist]

What do you mean by Andrew Luck?

 

[WV Cowboy]

True but you can come out of almost any game saying had we not done this or that we could have won. Yes we have things to improve on, 95% of the time a team will come out of a game and there are things they need to improve on. Had we not have 3 turnovers vs 9ers who knows we could be 6-0. I get that Dallas has thing to improve on and after the Giants game I'm sure we will have things to improve on. One thing for sure the coaches do have these guys ready to play no one is going to Seattle making the mistakes we did and still beat them. No doubt Dallas needs to continue to work and clean up these mistakes.

I'm not complaining. I'm not talking about improvements we need to make, .. not talking about mistakes we need to clean up. We do but that is not my concern.
I'm pleased and proud of the way we are competing and battling.

I'm just saying how very close we came to two different conclusions in games.

Both catches were reviewed.
As good as we have been playing, .. if a tip of the football touched on Dez's catch, or one toe doesn't quite get down on TWill's catch, .. that is how close we are to not being 5-1.

So I am still cautiously "fired up".

It is not like we are rolling everybody.

 

[Doomsday101]

I'm not complaining. I'm not talking about improvements we need to make, .. not talking about mistakes we need to clean up. We do but that is not my concern.
I'm pleased and proud of the way we are competing and battling.

I'm just saying how very close we came to two different conclusions in games.

Both catches were reviewed.
As good as we have been playing, .. if a tip of the football touched on Dez's catch, or one toe doesn't quite get down on TWill's catch, .. that is how close we are to not being 5-1.

So I am still cautiously "fired up".

It is not like we are rolling everybody.

I agree things this team needs to work on and improve on. The thread topic was on this being luck, sorry I don't see any of this as luck. I see a team who is being very well prepared coming into these games and winning. When you say they need to improve on something I'm right there with you.

 

[Doomsday101]

WAIT, is it luck that we had Martin targeted in case Shazier wasn't available?

Yep and if Dallas did not care that much for Martin they could have traded out of the spot. Dallas had other option they option they choose was Martin.

 

[theSHOW]

As good as we have looked, as fun as it has been watching the running game, and as impressive as it was to beat Seattle and be 5-1, ... we are very very close to being the same old 3-3.

Wait, don't scream and crucify me just yet.

I am as happy as anybody.

But we were down 21-0 in a game this year, .. not good. You don't always win after trailing 21-0.

Then against the Texans we win because on 3rd and 8 Dez makes an All-Time highlight catch to save the game. If that ball is not caught, which it very easily could not have been, we are punting in OT and possibly losing.

Against the Seahawks it was 3rd and 20 and TWill makes another All-Time highlight catch to save the game. That pass could have very easily been incomplete. If we punt there, Seattle has the ball with about 5:00 left. We could have very easily lost that game.

So while we are all thrilled at 5-1, with a different bounce here and there each game it could have gone the other way.

That old saying, "you have to be good, but you have to be lucky too."

We are good, no doubt, .. but we have been lucky as well.

Why stop there? A few more bounces and we could be 0-6...make that 0-7 if Jerry messes things up against New York this weekend. Worst team ever!

 

[theSHOW]

That thinks that this team is more built on Luck that a "Process"?

I read an article on here that went on waxing poetically that this was the work of Garret's Process and how we are now seeing it because of the Oline overhall... and I have to kind of laugh.

Just a few days ago I was listening to the radio and they had someone on talking about how the cowboys where SOLD on drafting Ryan Shazier out of OSU.
http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...e-with-dallas-when-steelers-drafted-him.html/
And Martin was there "back up plan" And I have to think that last year and getting Fredrick was a similar situation. When they moved back and by some reports where "confused and trying to move out" of the pick again. And were "forced" to draft Fredrick. There was even stories about how they where so confused they missed on a higher rated player on there board.
http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sports/...an-do-to-avoid-2013-s-draft-day-confusion.ece
and then there McClain... the MVP of our Defense. He wouldn't even be on the team if we didn't lose Lee for the season... I LOVE Lee... he's one of my favorite players... but I think McClain is out performing him comparatively to seasons previous.

So I have to give pause to this whole "process" praise I keep hearing and how we "set out to rebuild the line" with three first round picks and this was the plan. BULL CRAP. And then there is the coaches. Garrett never wanted to fire Rob Ryan and never wanted to relinquish play calling duties and HAD to bring an OC...

idk, just some thoughts...

The Colts are built on Luck.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I agree things this team needs to work on and improve on. The thread topic was on this being luck, sorry I don't see any of this as luck. I see a team who is being very well prepared coming into these games and winning. When you say they need to improve on something I'm right there with you.

I really am not talking about having to make improvements, and I don't mean to suggest we have improved or are winning on luck.

I'm just noticing that despite all of the good things we have done since last year, .. we are two miracles from the same record we have been stuck in.

We can't always depend on miracles, ... although I'm sure Dez and TWill both have few more in them.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Why stop there? A few more bounces and we could be 0-6...make that 0-7 if Jerry messes things up against New York this weekend. Worst team ever!

Grow up, and join the conversation.

 

[CATCH17]

I'm sure those who dislike Jerry and Jason think this is all pure luck.

That's because building a good team with Jerry Jones as your GM takes a lot of luck.

 

[theSHOW]

Grow up, and join the conversation.

You are crying about how we lucked out and I'm all growed up now there Cowboy.. feelin the love for the Cowboys since the 1st offseason transaction after last years ending. Enjoyed my last trip ( 1 day only) to WV where the Horned Frogs did you're boys in.

 

[AsthmaField]

IIRC, Jimmy wanted Junior Seau in the draft. He was taken before the Cowboys pick, and we ended up with Emmitt Smith.

Lots of draft stories are like that. The bottom line is the Cowboys offense was built by the draft and undrafted rookies.

Yep good call.

Even after Seau was gone, Jimmy tried to trade up and take James Francis, DE from Baylor but Cincy wouldn't do the deal. Then he tried to trade up and get Ray Agnew but New England wouldn't do the deal. Then, after all that failed, Jimmy traded up with Pittsburgh to #17 and took the sliding Emmitt Smith.

Jimmy also had the luck of walking in to the first overall pick in a year when Troy Aikman was sitting there. Had Tom Landry's last game been a win against an equally bad Green Bay team, then Jimmy would have walked in to the 2nd overall pick and it was pretty much known that he loved (along with everyone else) Tony Mandarich... probably the biggest OL bust in history.

Also, in Landry's last draft, they almost went in another direction and if they had, they wouldn't have drafted Michael Irvin, so Jimmy wouldn't have had him either.

So if Landry drafts somebody besides Irvin, and if Landry wins his last game in Dallas, and had Cincy or New England done the trade in the 1991 draft... Then Jimmy doesn't have Irvin, Aikman, or Emmitt and his time in Dallas is completely different.

There is no luck in Dallas right now beyond the same luck that everyone else in the NFL has.

Nice negative angle though (OP). I suppose it is the best you can do during a 5 game win streak that included beating the Seahawks in Seattle.

 

[Doomsday101]

I really am not talking about having to make improvements, and I don't mean to suggest we have improved or are winning on luck.

I'm just noticing that despite all of the good things we have done since last year, .. we are two miracles from the same record we have been stuck in.

We can't always depend on miracles, ... although I'm sure Dez and TWill both have few more in them.

When I say improvement I mean cleaning up mistakes aka fumbles, mental break down as we saw on the block punt. I agree you can't rely on low percentage plays to bail you out. There are something’s the Cowboys and the staff need to improve on or correct however a person chooses to look at it.

 

[Doomsday101]

That's because building a good team with Jerry Jones as your GM takes a lot of luck.

No it takes Jerry hiring good people so that he is being given good information so that a decision can be made.

 

[lostar2009]

That thinks that this team is more built on Luck that a "Process"?

I read an article on here that went on waxing poetically that this was the work of Garret's Process and how we are now seeing it because of the Oline overhall... and I have to kind of laugh.

Just a few days ago I was listening to the radio and they had someone on talking about how the cowboys where SOLD on drafting Ryan Shazier out of OSU.
http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...e-with-dallas-when-steelers-drafted-him.html/
And Martin was there "back up plan" And I have to think that last year and getting Fredrick was a similar situation. When they moved back and by some reports where "confused and trying to move out" of the pick again. And were "forced" to draft Fredrick. There was even stories about how they where so confused they missed on a higher rated player on there board.
http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sports/...an-do-to-avoid-2013-s-draft-day-confusion.ece
and then there McClain... the MVP of our Defense. He wouldn't even be on the team if we didn't lose Lee for the season... I LOVE Lee... he's one of my favorite players... but I think McClain is out performing him comparatively to seasons previous.

So I have to give pause to this whole "process" praise I keep hearing and how we "set out to rebuild the line" with three first round picks and this was the plan. BULL CRAP. And then there is the coaches. Garrett never wanted to fire Rob Ryan and never wanted to relinquish play calling duties and HAD to bring an OC...

idk, just some thoughts...

I know they sign Costa to an extension a year before they drafted Fred but cut him shorty after. I know they wantes oline players but only at the right spot. Shaver vs Martin ? I dunno Shaver could have been our Ro. To be honest im more mad about them not taking the G in the second round after they drafted Fred. So to say it was some luck yes, as i felt as if the cowboys have been staying true to there board under JG ....minus the JJ driven Mo trade up.

 

[Clove]

As good as we have looked, as fun as it has been watching the running game, and as impressive as it was to beat Seattle and be 5-1, ... we are very very close to being the same old 3-3.

Wait, don't scream and crucify me just yet.

I am as happy as anybody.

But we were down 21-0 in a game this year, .. not good. You don't always win after trailing 21-0.

Then against the Texans we win because on 3rd and 8 Dez makes an All-Time highlight catch to save the game. If that ball is not caught, which it very easily could not have been, we are punting in OT and possibly losing.

Against the Seahawks it was 3rd and 20 and TWill makes another All-Time highlight catch to save the game. That pass could have very easily been incomplete. If we punt there, Seattle has the ball with about 5:00 left. We could have very easily lost that game.

So while we are all thrilled at 5-1, with a different bounce here and there each game it could have gone the other way.

That old saying, "you have to be good, but you have to be lucky too."

We are good, no doubt, .. but we have been lucky as well.

On the flip side, if not for our mistakes, it's a blow out. In probably all the games.

 

[Brooksey]

As good as we have looked, as fun as it has been watching the running game, and as impressive as it was to beat Seattle and be 5-1, ... we are very very close to being the same old 3-3.

Wait, don't scream and crucify me just yet.

I am as happy as anybody.

But we were down 21-0 in a game this year, .. not good. You don't always win after trailing 21-0.

Then against the Texans we win because on 3rd and 8 Dez makes an All-Time highlight catch to save the game. If that ball is not caught, which it very easily could not have been, we are punting in OT and possibly losing.

Against the Seahawks it was 3rd and 20 and TWill makes another All-Time highlight catch to save the game. That pass could have very easily been incomplete. If we punt there, Seattle has the ball with about 5:00 left. We could have very easily lost that game.

So while we are all thrilled at 5-1, with a different bounce here and there each game it could have gone the other way.

That old saying, "you have to be good, but you have to be lucky too."

We are good, no doubt, .. but we have been lucky as well.

We also could be undefeated and could have blown Seattle out 41-3. We dominated the line of scrimmage against SF and Sea but lost the turnover battle.

We spotted Sea 17 points off dumb turnovers and you think we won by luck? After completely dominating them on both sides of the ball?

I disagree. The draft picks were back up plans that turned out good and our record says who we really are,