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ExactlyI think even many defenders drop his passes. Haha?
ExactlyI think even many defenders drop his passes. Haha?
Awww am I criticizing you hero . . . Grow upcan't stand king of trolls mentality..you are out!
- He has tended to disappear in the bigger games when your big play receiver is MOST needed. Not all big games. He did have some big games. But not enough to make him a star. Here are some examples:
- In both playoff losses Cooper played in, (2018, 2021) he averaged less than 70 yards per game.
- In 2019’s most critical game that decided the NFC East vs Filly, Cooper had 4 receptions for 24 yds and famously stood on the sidelines in the last drive.
- Another critical game in 2019, vs NE on the road, Coop got shut out with zero catches. (Randall Cobb and Gallup had 86 and 55 yds that day)
- In that terrible loss against Arizona last year that cost us the #2 seed, Coop had 3 catches for 18 yds, despite 8 targets and two drops.
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THIS IS NOT A HATE AMARI COOPER THREAD. I like Cooper. But I also think it was a smart move for the Cowboys, both for obvious cap reasons and the fact that he was overrated here.
Now that I have that out of the way, let us count the reasons why Cooper’s release could be a good thing:
- Amari Cooper is a very good receiver. He’s an excellent route runner. BUT- he is not a great 3rd down receiver (when you need a 3rd down conversion)
- In 2021, Cooper was 26th in the league in 3rd down receptions for a first down. For $20 mil a season, that’s not great. (Btw- Cedee Lamb was 16th)
- He’s not as much of a big play guy as he used to be- In YAC yardage, Cooper was way below avg- GET THIS- Dalton Schultz, Cedric Wilson and Tony Pollard all had better YAC numbers than Coop in 2021.
- Cooper has never been that great in YAC numbers in his career. He’s really more of a possession receiver which makes both his price tag and his lack of big 3rd down plays a problem.
- His last two seasons, he’s only averaging about 12 yards per reception. Again, more of a possession receiver than a big play receiver.
I’m not here to bash Amari Cooper. He’s a very good receiver. But Cowboys fans, let’s be honest. Is he a top 20 receiver in this league? NO. Not in receptions, YAC, 3rd down conversions…etc, etc. We cannot pay a WR $20 mil a season with that kind of return.
- He has tended to disappear in the bigger games when your big play receiver is MOST needed. Not all big games. He did have some big games. But not enough to make him a star. Here are some examples:
- In both playoff losses Cooper played in, (2018, 2021) he averaged less than 70 yards per game.
- In 2019’s most critical game that decided the NFC East vs Filly, Cooper had 4 receptions for 24 yds and famously stood on the sidelines in the last drive.
- Another critical game in 2019, vs NE on the road, Coop got shut out with zero catches. (Randall Cobb and Gallup had 86 and 55 yds that day)
- In that terrible loss against Arizona last year that cost us the #2 seed, Coop had 3 catches for 18 yds, despite 8 targets and two drops.
Will we miss Cooper? Maybe some. But the cap savings could provide more help at other positions without losing much on offense.
In my book letting him go is the right move.
Cooper ain’t a #1 WR. Over 30 players had more receiving yards than that dude last year. Make all your apologies for the guy, but cutting him is the best thing to do.Amari never was a top 5 WR. And the trade was one of the dumbest things the Joneses did. It was a desperation move. And that happens when you are not able to plan for the future. But the Joneses are another thing to discuss for another thread.
Remember Amari was the one who upped Prescotts game who was playing like a true 4th round pick at that time. Now that Prescotts play is back to his talent level (because DCs know how to scheme against him) doesnt mean Cooper's play declined. Cooper is a good #1 WR who frees up others to make plays. We right now dont have a true #1 WR. And dont let you get fooled by Schultz's numbers. He is just a medicore TE. Heck i love the gutsy catches he makes. Still he is not a good player.
I agree that Cooper tends to disappear. But i am just not convinced thats this is his own fault. This has also to do with the way Moore calls plays. And his playcalling is also very depended on the low talent level he has at the starting QB position.
In the end i dont think its a good idea to let Cooper go. but i also think that its Cooper who wants out of here and not Dallas who wants him gone. Believe me a WR knows what to expect from his QB and Cooper is very frustrated with Prescott. Thats for sure.
Cooper ain’t a #1 WR. Over 30 players had more receiving yards than that dude last year. Make all your apologies for the guy, but cutting him is the best thing to do.
Amari never was a top 5 WR. And the trade was one of the dumbest things the Joneses did. It was a desperation move. And that happens when you are not able to plan for the future. But the Joneses are another thing to discuss for another thread.
Remember Amari was the one who upped Prescotts game who was playing like a true 4th round pick at that time. Now that Prescotts play is back to his talent level (because DCs know how to scheme against him) doesnt mean Cooper's play declined. Cooper is a good #1 WR who frees up others to make plays. We right now dont have a true #1 WR. And dont let you get fooled by Schultz's numbers. He is just a medicore TE. Heck i love the gutsy catches he makes. Still he is not a good player.
I agree that Cooper tends to disappear. But i am just not convinced thats this is his own fault. This has also to do with the way Moore calls plays. And his playcalling is also very depended on the low talent level he has at the starting QB position.
In the end i dont think its a good idea to let Cooper go. but i also think that its Cooper who wants out of here and not Dallas who wants him gone. Believe me a WR knows what to expect from his QB and Cooper is very frustrated with Prescott. Thats for sure.
I have no animosity for Coop. He greatly helped this team in 2018 make the playoffs. My problem is not Amari. It’s the FO selling him to the fans and paying him like he’s a top 5 receiver when he clearly is not and never will be. That’s just the truth. Not animosity towards Coop.I don't get the animosity. He's a 15m WR whose paid 20m and his contract isn't guaranteed. We paid him and average of 7m his first two seasons with the Cowboys so we at least got some value for the draft picks. I'd keep him if he'd take 15m but that seems unlikely so it's probably time to move on.
Here is the problem. Yes, he is not worth 20M but when has this management actually used the cap savings to really improve other positions?THIS IS NOT A HATE AMARI COOPER THREAD. I like Cooper. But I also think it was a smart move for the Cowboys, both for obvious cap reasons and the fact that he was overrated here.
Now that I have that out of the way, let us count the reasons why Cooper’s release could be a good thing:
- Amari Cooper is a very good receiver. He’s an excellent route runner. BUT- he is not a great 3rd down receiver (when you need a 3rd down conversion)
- In 2021, Cooper was 26th in the league in 3rd down receptions for a first down. For $20 mil a season, that’s not great. (Btw- Cedee Lamb was 16th)
- He’s not as much of a big play guy as he used to be- In YAC yardage, Cooper was way below avg- GET THIS- Dalton Schultz, Cedric Wilson and Tony Pollard all had better YAC numbers than Coop in 2021.
- Cooper has never been that great in YAC numbers in his career. He’s really more of a possession receiver which makes both his price tag and his lack of big 3rd down plays a problem.
- His last two seasons, he’s only averaging about 12 yards per reception. Again, more of a possession receiver than a big play receiver.
I’m not here to bash Amari Cooper. He’s a very good receiver. But Cowboys fans, let’s be honest. Is he a top 20 receiver in this league? NO. Not in receptions, YAC, 3rd down conversions…etc, etc. We cannot pay a WR $20 mil a season with that kind of return.
- He has tended to disappear in the bigger games when your big play receiver is MOST needed. Not all big games. He did have some big games. But not enough to make him a star. Here are some examples:
- In both playoff losses Cooper played in, (2018, 2021) he averaged less than 70 yards per game.
- In 2019’s most critical game that decided the NFC East vs Filly, Cooper had 4 receptions for 24 yds and famously stood on the sidelines in the last drive.
- Another critical game in 2019, vs NE on the road, Coop got shut out with zero catches. (Randall Cobb and Gallup had 86 and 55 yds that day)
- In that terrible loss against Arizona last year that cost us the #2 seed, Coop had 3 catches for 18 yds, despite 8 targets and two drops.
Will we miss Cooper? Maybe some. But the cap savings could provide more help at other positions without losing much on offense.
In my book letting him go is the right move.
The fault of production is much more on the OC and company than Amari. And Dak as well.THIS IS NOT A HATE AMARI COOPER THREAD. I like Cooper. But I also think it was a smart move for the Cowboys, both for obvious cap reasons and the fact that he was overrated here.
Now that I have that out of the way, let us count the reasons why Cooper’s release could be a good thing:
- Amari Cooper is a very good receiver. He’s an excellent route runner. BUT- he is not a great 3rd down receiver (when you need a 3rd down conversion)
- In 2021, Cooper was 26th in the league in 3rd down receptions for a first down. For $20 mil a season, that’s not great. (Btw- Cedee Lamb was 16th)
- He’s not as much of a big play guy as he used to be- In YAC yardage, Cooper was way below avg- GET THIS- Dalton Schultz, Cedric Wilson and Tony Pollard all had better YAC numbers than Coop in 2021.
- Cooper has never been that great in YAC numbers in his career. He’s really more of a possession receiver which makes both his price tag and his lack of big 3rd down plays a problem.
- His last two seasons, he’s only averaging about 12 yards per reception. Again, more of a possession receiver than a big play receiver.
I’m not here to bash Amari Cooper. He’s a very good receiver. But Cowboys fans, let’s be honest. Is he a top 20 receiver in this league? NO. Not in receptions, YAC, 3rd down conversions…etc, etc. We cannot pay a WR $20 mil a season with that kind of return.
- He has tended to disappear in the bigger games when your big play receiver is MOST needed. Not all big games. He did have some big games. But not enough to make him a star. Here are some examples:
- In both playoff losses Cooper played in, (2018, 2021) he averaged less than 70 yards per game.
- In 2019’s most critical game that decided the NFC East vs Filly, Cooper had 4 receptions for 24 yds and famously stood on the sidelines in the last drive.
- Another critical game in 2019, vs NE on the road, Coop got shut out with zero catches. (Randall Cobb and Gallup had 86 and 55 yds that day)
- In that terrible loss against Arizona last year that cost us the #2 seed, Coop had 3 catches for 18 yds, despite 8 targets and two drops.
Will we miss Cooper? Maybe some. But the cap savings could provide more help at other positions without losing much on offense.
In my book letting him go is the right move.
How about Debo Samuels and Justin Jefferson? Top 5 receivers who have Jimmy Garropolo and Kirk Cousins throwing to them. Decent QBs at best. But those guys are stars.
Another good example of this is Allen Robinson, the Chi receiver, and Jacksonville before that. He was hurt some last year but put up 102 and 98 receptions over two seasons with people like Blake Bortles, Mitch Trubisky and Andy Dalton throwing to him.
Having a great QB is nice. But great receivers always seem to bubble up no matter who’s throwing it to them.
All I know is Amari 10+ targets= 3 times. Results= 364 yards 4 TDs. All other games= 5.2 targets a game.
He's not overrated, he's under used and the TEN TOE MEDIOCRE SLOTH is responsible for that. We're stuck with a SLOTH that is too slow reading defenses and too slow finding open receivers and TEs. Romo was great pointing out how the SLOTH refused to throw the ball when everyone is running free. He would rather hold the pig skin and squeeze the air out of it. Oh, I know you're going to point out all the passing stats that the SLOTH accumulated this past season, but they came against all the toads on the schedule and I don't believe the SLOTH is being paid to be that ELITE FROG GIGGER!THIS IS NOT A HATE AMARI COOPER THREAD. I like Cooper. But I also think it was a smart move for the Cowboys, both for obvious cap reasons and the fact that he was overrated here.
Now that I have that out of the way, let us count the reasons why Cooper’s release could be a good thing:
- Amari Cooper is a very good receiver. He’s an excellent route runner. BUT- he is not a great 3rd down receiver (when you need a 3rd down conversion)
- In 2021, Cooper was 26th in the league in 3rd down receptions for a first down. For $20 mil a season, that’s not great. (Btw- Cedee Lamb was 16th)
- He’s not as much of a big play guy as he used to be- In YAC yardage, Cooper was way below avg- GET THIS- Dalton Schultz, Cedric Wilson and Tony Pollard all had better YAC numbers than Coop in 2021.
- Cooper has never been that great in YAC numbers in his career. He’s really more of a possession receiver which makes both his price tag and his lack of big 3rd down plays a problem.
- His last two seasons, he’s only averaging about 12 yards per reception. Again, more of a possession receiver than a big play receiver.
I’m not here to bash Amari Cooper. He’s a very good receiver. But Cowboys fans, let’s be honest. Is he a top 20 receiver in this league? NO. Not in receptions, YAC, 3rd down conversions…etc, etc. We cannot pay a WR $20 mil a season with that kind of return.
- He has tended to disappear in the bigger games when your big play receiver is MOST needed. Not all big games. He did have some big games. But not enough to make him a star. Here are some examples:
- In both playoff losses Cooper played in, (2018, 2021) he averaged less than 70 yards per game.
- In 2019’s most critical game that decided the NFC East vs Filly, Cooper had 4 receptions for 24 yds and famously stood on the sidelines in the last drive.
- Another critical game in 2019, vs NE on the road, Coop got shut out with zero catches. (Randall Cobb and Gallup had 86 and 55 yds that day)
- In that terrible loss against Arizona last year that cost us the #2 seed, Coop had 3 catches for 18 yds, despite 8 targets and two drops.
Will we miss Cooper? Maybe some. But the cap savings could provide more help at other positions without losing much on offense.
In my book letting him go is the right move.
He's not overrated, he's under used and the TEN TOE MEDIOCRE SLOTH is responsible for that. We're stuck with a SLOTH that is too slow reading defenses and too slow finding open receivers and TEs. Romo was great pointing out how the SLOTH refused to throw the ball when everyone is running free. He would rather hold the pig skin and squeeze the air out of it. Oh, I know you're going to point out all the passing stats that the SLOTH accumulated this past season, but they came against all the toads on the schedule and I don't believe the SLOTH is being paid to be that ELITE FROG GIGGER!
How about Debo Samuels and Justin Jefferson? Top 5 receivers who have Jimmy Garropolo and Kirk Cousins throwing to them. Decent QBs at best. But those guys are stars.
Another good example of this is Allen Robinson, the Chi receiver, and Jacksonville before that. He was hurt some last year but put up 102 and 98 receptions over two seasons with people like Blake Bortles, Mitch Trubisky and Andy Dalton throwing to him.
Having a great QB is nice. But great receivers always seem to bubble up no matter who’s throwing it to them.
well your probably looking at stats, which are flawed, Stats dont mean much.Why is it that Gallup and Lamb are able to match Cooper’s best season? If he were the better player, would it not show on the field?