EPL0c0;2796165 said:There are some #3 WRs that are better than Crayton (Breaston being one). So he'd be last on the list IMO.
EPL0c0;2796165 said:There are some #3 WRs that are better than Crayton (Breaston being one). So he'd be last on the list IMO.
McCordsville Cowboy;2795826 said:Crayton is a #4 WR paid like a #2. I'd take 4.3 speed in Harvin or Bey over 4.65 with the wind anyday of the week
dbair1967;2796579 said:Bring back Randall Williams or Ed Hervey!
Niether could play a lick, but they could run fast.
SLATEmosphere;2796584 said:Whats the difference? Crayton bobbles important passes and disappears in big games.
Well in all fairness how can you rank players that have yet to play an NFL snap ahead of Crayton or any other accomplished receiver?DFWJC;2795225 said:There's been a lot of talk about Patrick Crayton and Miles Austin today, so I put together a list of what I feel are current WR2s.
I very roughly ranked my top 10 on how I think they are now (not in the past) and then just posted the other 21 in semi-ranked order.
Where would you rank Patrick Clayton on this list?
1--A Boldin (az)
2--W Welker (ne)
3--L Evans (buf)
4--H Ward..or Holmes (pit)
4--Royal (den)
6--Driver (gb)
7--L Coles (cin)
8--L Moore (no)
9--A Gonzaloa (ind)
10--K Walter (hou)
11--M Muhammed
12--Bruce (sf)
13--Chambers (sd)
14--B Engram (kc)
15--J Maclin (phi)
16--J Gage (ten)
17--M Jenkins (atl)
18--D Branch (sea)
19--D Patten (cle)
20--S Smith (nyg)
21--Harvin, Rice, or Wade (minn)
22--Randel El (was)
23--J Morgan (sf)
24--Heward-Bey or Walker (oak)
25--Mi Walker (jax)
26--Mi Clayton (bal)
27--Bry Johnson or Bess (Mia)
28--Clowney (nyj)
29--R Davis or Bennet (chi)
30--Ma Calyton (tb)
31--L Robinson (sl)
I say maybe he's in the 12-20 range, but it's hard to say. I mean, do you want Crayton over Harvin or Heyward-Bey, for example? Tough call.
dbair1967;2796590 said:of course he does
he's been a total waste for us hasnt he? What a waste of a premium draft pick. Oh wait, he wasnt a premium draft pick. He was a 7th rd pick that was converted to QB, who turned into a dependable starter.
He would be missed if they don't replace him, its up to Manny Johnson, travis Wilson, Sam Hurd and Miles Austin to show he's expendable, his tenure and reputation (beyond a loud mouth and a bad playoff game) are pretty solid, not unlike a seventh rounder from a generation ago named leon Lett, a real good player who's mistakes were harped on a head of his subtle and consistent contributions as if his football career was defined by two or three embarassing plays.SLATEmosphere;2796596 said:I don't care if we got him for free off the street, he isn't that good and wouldn't be missed if he was gone. He could easily be replaced by Ogletree or Manny Johnson. Look at Lance Moore..now THATS a legit 7th rounder.
Aikbach;2796602 said:He would be missed if they don't replace him, its up to Manny Johnson, travis Wilson, Sam Hurd and Miles Austin to show he's expendable, his tenure and reputation (beyond a loud mouth and a bad playoff game) are pretty solid, not unlike a seventh rounder from a generation ago named leon Lett, a real good player who's mistakes were harped on a head of his subtle and consistent contributions as if his football career was defined by two or three embarassing plays.
dbair1967;2796618 said:I'm a big proponent of banning people who's IQ doesnt even equal their age.
SLATEmosphere;2796623 said:Me too.
dallasfaniac;2796632 said:See, this is what he's talking about. It's actually "I'm two."
Don't get me wrong, I like Crayton, but I don't think much of Crayton as a #2WR. As a #2WR he seemed to have all but disappeared; at least I don't think his production was what it could have been. There were lots of times that I saw him unable to beat his coverage.DFWJC;2796173 said:Think about what you just said...and contemplate those 4 great years of 7th grade that you had. Just kidding.
Point is, Breaston could be better than half of those WR2s. So does that make all of them in last place too? Fine if you really think Crayton is last among the WR2s, but your logic for getting him there is completely flawed.
:laugh1:dbair1967;2796618 said:I'm a big proponent of banning people who's IQ doesnt even equal their age.
4.3 means nothing if you can't catch the ball. Give me Crayton over Bey.McCordsville Cowboy;2795826 said:Crayton is a #4 WR paid like a #2. I'd take 4.3 speed in Harvin or Bey over 4.65 with the wind anyday of the week
JonJon;2796751 said:4.3 means nothing if you can't catch the ball. Give me Crayton over Bey.