An Elite defense with Dak could be enough

[CowboyRoy]

That's exactly what I thought as well. But now I'm not so sure. Did you think the Panthers D was any good last year? I didn't. Nothing to write home about. Their points allowed would also agree. Yards allowed has them as the 2nd best defense.

Yards allowed has its flaws too. How often are the Panthers blowing a team out and just sitting back in the 4th? Not often. So they're not giving up those junk yards.

much like the Quincy carter defense that year

 

[Diehardblues]

much like the Quincy carter defense that year

Right, the only top 5 caliber defense we have had this era took Quincy to the playoffs.

Imagine what it could have done with a QB like Romo or Dak. We just haven’t been able to put together a top 10 caliber defense this era when we’ve had an offense or QB.

 

[Flamma]

I didn’t follow the Panthers much last year. I think they started off well and were 3-0 when they faced us but then their QB I think got hurt or was benched and they never really covered.

There’s always contributing factors like points and turnovers. But there’s a well established reason the NFL official rankings are based on yards.

Top defenses without an offense probably aren’t going to have much success.

I'm just saying, you look back at the top defenses throughout history, their points allowed are always low. You rarely if ever see a poor defense give up very few points over the course of the season. However, like I showed with the Panthers just last year, you can have an average D be in the top 5 in yards allowed. But I understand your point. Points allowed is not just a defensive statistic.

 

[Diehardblues]

I'm just saying, you look back at the top defenses throughout history, their points allowed are always low. You rarely if ever see a poor defense give up very few points over the course of the season. However, like I showed with the Panthers just last year, you can have an average D be in the top 5 in yards allowed. But I understand your point. Points allowed is not just a defensive statistic.

Yep. That’s generally the rule . There probably are some instances where an offense gives up some points as well on special teams.

I’d have to review their season to know if all the points were given up specifically by the defense .

Those points origin aren’t generally separated in the stats as such.

 

[G2]

A lot of QBs would be "enough" with a truly elite defense. Problem is, especially in today's league, putting together an elite defense is freakin' tough. It's even tougher to keep that elite defense around for more than a season or two.

Look how quickly the legion of boom and 2015 broncos D faded.

True story. A lot of rule changes over time.

 

[Typhus]

are defense was improved still has things they must get better at such as playing the run.

If that doesnt happen than all is for not.
Stopping, or at least slowing the run has to happen first and foremost or this defense will encounter the same post season story again.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I’m with you on much of this but there is some built on excuses in there. We have given him
Weapons. According to many here we have a good O coordinator. D does need to be better but Dak kind of wet the bed late season/playoffs. Heck the whole team did. The whole comparison thing is hard for me. All those guys are elite and have won something are go deep later. We are stuck in neutral. He takes part of that blame. Agree we need more to help but overall he needs to be better. I will say after a healthy off season I expect a dang good year for him.

LOL.........gotta love that.

"Its dak's fault"

"well really its everyone's fault"

Caught yourself.

 

[Miller]

LOL.........gotta love that.

"Its dak's fault"

"well really its everyone's fault"

Caught yourself.

I know your game and you’re reaching. Please stop. I’ve always been fair with Dak. All I said was he wasn’t above reproach late in the season. Same with many who didn’t show up. Move along

 

[CowboyRoy]

I know your game and you’re reaching. Please stop. I’ve always been fair with Dak. All I said was he wasn’t above reproach late in the season. Same with many who didn’t show up. Move along

Just got a kick out of it. Many do the same thing. Its only the smart ones that realize its hard for a QB to do his job well with a bad line, no run game, injured receivers, and a bad calf all at the same time.

You made the transition in .5 seconds. Well done. Some on here never make it past..............."its Dak's fault".

Funny part is most of them are Romo apologists that defended Romo against the same kind of nonsense.

 

[Miller]

Just got a kick out of it. Many do the same thing. Its only the smart ones that realize its hard for a QB to do his job well with a bad line, no run game, injured receivers, and a bad calf all at the same time.

You made the transition in .5 seconds. Well done. Some on here never make it past..............."its Dak's fault".

Funny part is most of them are Romo apologists that defended Romo against the same kind of nonsense.

Well just so you know I think Dak does a lot of things well. I also think he’s off and on. I wasn’t trying to slip something by y’all. I’ve always been in the middle and call out lover and haters alike. Just like you just threw the kitchen sink of excuses for the guy despite many issues being his own…though the injury snd him not running was a big deal. We still had a pretty healthy season and had a great opportunity. The reality is we have failed for decades now to put together a team that competes at a top level. Owner/GM/coaching/Defenses/QBs all play a part. You are just going to hear it more in Dallas if you’re the QB.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Well just so you know I think Dak does a lot of things well. I also think he’s off and on. I wasn’t trying to slip something by y’all. I’ve always been in the middle and call out lover and haters alike. Just like you just threw the kitchen sink of excuses for the guy despite many issues being his own…though the injury snd him not running was a big deal. We still had a pretty healthy season and had a great opportunity. The reality is we have failed for decades now to put together a team that competes at a top level. Owner/GM/coaching/Defenses/QBs all play a part. You are just going to hear it more in Dallas if you’re the QB.

So you dont think the poor blocking and run game disappearing had a big affect on Dak's ability to maintain his MVP type season he was having?

That would have a big affect on any QB.

 

[kskboys]

I'm just saying, you look back at the top defenses throughout history, their points allowed are always low. You rarely if ever see a poor defense give up very few points over the course of the season. However, like I showed with the Panthers just last year, you can have an average D be in the top 5 in yards allowed. But I understand your point. Points allowed is not just a defensive statistic.

It's both. Belly got creamed in the 17 super bowl because his D was allowing teams a ton of yards. 29th. They were 5th in points.

Problem is, when you give up that many yards, playoff teams are going to turn those yards into points. 41 to the Eagles.

 

[Reid1boys]

Your right . The Cap won’t allow to maintain one. But you could build it thru 3 or 4 maybe 5 stellar drafts paying Rookie salaries. Maybe make 1 or 2 FA additions if needed.

So , your window for success is limited. Much like we saw with Elite defenses this Cap era with Tampa, Baltimore , Seattle and Denver.

agree with you... Seattle is the perfect example. They had a stellar defense and it came and went in a few short years.

 

[kskboys]

agree with you... Seattle is the perfect example. They had a stellar defense and it came and went in a few short years.

Very tough to keep it up on D, but they also made some extremely poor choices that hastened the downfall.

 

[Croomraider]

Our Offense looks pretty mediocre this year.. maybe I'm wrong, hopefully I'm wrong, but if so yeah top tier D gonna shut us down!! We better run the ball a bunch and hope our run schemes have improved cuz Dallas D will be good also.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

If Ryan Tannehill and Jimmy Garoppolo can reach conference title games with good defenses, then surely Dak can.

Defense wins championships. The NE Patriots made sure Brady had a top notch defense all of those years.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Daks had the best olines, rbs and defenses since the most spoiled qb ever aikman. Let's hope now an "elite" defense is enough lol. Daks more than capable. But the offense not showing up in the 1st half plus of games since 2016 isn't something that's not there...

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Daks had the best olines, rbs and defenses since the most spoiled qb ever aikman. Let's hope now an "elite" defense is enough lol. Daks more than capable. But the offense not showing up in the 1st half plus of games since 2016 isn't something that's not there...

He went through an elite offline and HB and not to mention some pretty stud Wr and all he brought home as leader dearest was 1 playoff win.
Now we will have the luxury of having him waste another group of talent(7,11,88,) while our picks will be wasted once again on non-playmaker offline man as Dakko needs mucho time to decide what to do with the ball.
P.S. Don't forget a new Zeke is needed also.....and we cannot afford cap-wise a doomsday defense!

 

[Doomsday101]

If that doesnt happen than all is for not.
Stopping, or at least slowing the run has to happen first and foremost or this defense will encounter the same post season story again.

True, Dallas will face some teams that have great running games .League leading Rusher Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mixon, Derek Henry, Delvin Cook. Cowboys will be tested

 

[PackerNation]

True, Dallas will face some teams that have great running games .League leading Rusher Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mixon, Derek Henry, Delvin Cook. Cowboys will be tested

No hate intended, but looking at the Cowboys schedule, I have a hard time finding more than 9 wins. That may be just enough to win the crappy NFC East, but I also wouldn't put it past Philly to win 9. That could possibly knock Dallas out of the playoffs.

I think we all can agree that only the winner of the East is going to the playoffs. There is no way a wildcard comes from the East.