And with the first pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys select..

SDogo;3649189 said:
He did again...........

Tell us the whole draft now Mel Kiper Genius. You obviously do not pay attention to the draft and how players fall and jump before it.
 
locked&loaded;3649211 said:
Wrong, he has 5 years left more than likely. Even you can agree on that, right? Lets win now. I dont want to wait 5 more years. If we draft a qb now he will be almost 30 again before he plays and we will be looking for a top qb to groom in 3 years again. Is this to hard to understand?
Then what when Romo starts to decline? 10-15 years of Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Drew Henson, Ryan Leaf, etc?
 
locked&loaded;3649200 said:
It was an excellent try. I sware you said something about QB.But maybe it was your fierce attack of my rightness as far as QB, MLB, and S goes.

Newman has 2 years left and Jenkins isnt awful. Scandric is scary, I know. But its partly because our Safeties blow and we get no pressure. Especially on ILB blitzes. No corner can cover consistently for 4+ seconds game in and game out. Now this could be all Failips fault; but I know our ILB also suck.


Nope. Go to the very first page near the top and you'll see I want no part of a QB 1st overall.
 
locked&loaded;3649200 said:
It was an excellent try. I sware you said something about QB.But maybe it was your fierce attack of my rightness as far as QB, MLB, and S goes.

Newman has 2 years left and Jenkins isnt awful. Scandric is scary, I know. But its partly because our Safeties blow and we get no pressure. Especially on ILB blitzes. No corner can cover consistently for 4+ seconds game in and game out. Now this could be all Failips fault; but I know our ILB also suck.

Problem is NO ONE is disagreeing with your positions of need. Just the value of where were might be picking and whats available.

If there was a stud ILB in this years class I would be all for it but even with possible JR's declaring it's just not there.

There might be 1 OT with top 5-10 talent this year.

Strength of this years class in the top 10 lies in the QB's, CB's and DE's
 
locked&loaded;3649213 said:
Tell us the whole draft now Mel Kiper Genius. You obviously do not pay attention to the draft and how players fall and jump before it.

not at all, you got me.........
 
The Cowboys have shown us that they have a lot of holes. It isn't just the OL. Realistically, Dallas could use a player at OL, anywhere in the front 7 on D, a CB, or a QB. I'd only be opposed to safety, as few ever provide enough impact to warrant that high of a pick, RB, where you can find a good one all through the draft, and WR, because we've put enough into that position as it is.

As someone said earlier in the thread, if you have a high pick and there's one there you really like, you have to go QB. If you're that high and think a franchise QB is there, the only way you can pass on him is if you think there's truly an elite player at another position, not just the ordinary highly rated, good prospect. Not a shot at Romo at all, but he'll probably be 31 years old the next time he takes the field. I'd rather be proactive at the most important position than sit around and wait until we have no choice as to making a move at the position.

It won't give everyone the instant gratification of getting a guy who starts day one, but the reality is, this team is more than one player away. They need several guys. A handful of starters, and also those role players, guys who can do one thing for you very well (like cover kicks).
 
tomson75;3649209 said:
Now it's this one^^^. Although your others are still pretty wrong.

At least you've beaten yourself!

Believe JR.............keep believing
 
Cover 2;3649214 said:
Then what when Romo starts to decline? 10-15 years of Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Drew Henson, Ryan Leaf, etc?

You dont need the best qb ever to win. All these guys can make almost every throw. The issue is if they can get time. This is why we need linemen.
 
Who is prince amukamara? Nfldraftcontdown has him as the #2 prospect. I take it Peterson is a junior since he isn't on the list. Is Peterson mch better than prince?
 
SDogo;3649218 said:
Problem is NO ONE is disagreeing with your positions of need. Just the value of where were might be picking and whats available.

If there was a stud ILB in this years class I would be all for it but even with possible JR's declaring it's just not there.

There might be 1 OT with top 5-10 talent this year.

Strength of this years class in the top 10 lies in the QB's, CB's and DE's

exactly.... I agree we need a S,MLB, and Lineman. But like I said, no players at those positions are worthy of going 1st, and there is a player at another position of need for us who is ( a corner )
 
locked&loaded;3649233 said:
You dont need the best qb ever to win. All these guys can make almost every throw. The issue is if they can get time. This is why we need linemen.
You can still get olinemen without spending a 1st round pick on them. Look at Peyton Manning. He makes his oline better than they actually are. I believe he had 2 UDFA's starting on the line, but was still able to make it work.
 
GloryDaysRBack;3649235 said:
Who is prince amukamara? Nfldraftcontdown has him as the #2 prospect. I take it Peterson is a junior since he isn't on the list. Is Peterson mch better than prince?
I think Prince is overrated to be honest. I just watched him get torched by Blackmon in the Nebraska-OK State game. I know a lot of people are really high on him, but I just don't see it.
 
Cover 2;3649246 said:
You can still get olinemen without spending a 1st round pick on them. Look at Peyton Manning. He makes his oline better than they actually are. I believe he had 2 UDFA's starting on the line, but was still able to make it work.

I bet their OL coach didn't fall asleep in meetings, either.
 
GloryDaysRBack;3649235 said:
Who is prince amukamara? Nfldraftcontdown has him as the #2 prospect. I take it Peterson is a junior since he isn't on the list. Is Peterson mch better than prince?

Yes he is. In my honest opinion, I think Peterson can have the same impact that a Revis or Asomugha has in the league his first year.

Prince is good, but Peterson is on a whole nother' level.
 
GloryDaysRBack;3649235 said:
Who is prince amukamara? Nfldraftcontdown has him as the #2 prospect. I take it Peterson is a junior since he isn't on the list. Is Peterson mch better than prince?

I believe if he declared now he would already be one of the top 3 prospects and rated over Prince.
 
Cover 2;3649246 said:
You can still get olinemen without spending a 1st round pick on them. Look at Peyton Manning. He makes his oline better than they actually are. I believe he had 2 UDFA's starting on the line, but was still able to make it work.

Same with any position...
 
locked&loaded;3649172 said:
The only thing that is clear is what the cowboys need. So when that day comes we should pick the best player for what we NEED. Is that hard?



Ahhhh U never draft for need that can hurt u every draft its BPA always so I say no way u pass on P.Peterson or A.Luck we don't have many chance 2 get guys like this............................................................buy ur thinking we draft a OT or OG that is 17-29 on are board over these guys is:laugh2: :laugh2:
 
locked&loaded;3649261 said:
Same with any position...
Gabe Carimi/OT/Wisconsin: The Badger has shut down top defensive talent in consecutive games and deservedly is watching his draft stock rise. Iowa's talented defensive line registered just a single sack during Wisconsin's victory Saturday. The previous weekend saw Carimi help hold top 10 prospect Cameron Heyward and the rest of the Ohio State defense sackless. The senior draws a variety of opinions in the scouting community but these two contests will be looked upon as statement games and should secure him a place late in round one

trade down get a high 2nd pick an get this guy as a RT
 
locked&loaded;3649261 said:
Same with any position...
Elite quarterbacks are hard to find. Andrew Luck will be an elite QB IMO. That's why they should grab him. I'd rather have a solid left tackle and great quarterback as opposed to the reverse of that.

I'm a huge Romo fan, but time is not on his side. Sit Luck for three years, and then trade Romo after that.
 

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