Another Cole Beasley thread

[Bobhaze]

Strange since Dak overthrows easy tds and throws his receivers under the bus. Maybe he should be on his way out of town too.

To be replaced by....? Finding quality QBs is the most difficult personnel acquisition in the NFL. Dak has many things to improve. But the calls for him to be run out of town aren’t very well thought out. What’s the plan to acquire someone better next year with no #1 draft pick? Or an older FA QB who is on the downside of their career for a price perhaps higher than what Dak will cost.

 

[Chuck 54]

He or Austin will eventually get targets when a team decides they must double Cooper.
I think up to this point teams have wanted Dak to prove he can hit the top receiver downfield rather than give him the easier throws to guys like Beasley across the middle. When a team decides they must take Cooper away by committing two defenders to Cooper, Beasley or someone will start getting open for the easy throws.

 

[Cowboys22]

Didn’t he turn down an extension. He wants more money than they will pay him now that Copper is on board so they are phasing him out. Small, quick slot WRs can be had up and down the draft. It seems like every college team has one now. He has also let his attitude show and that isn’t helping at all. He will sign with a division rival thinking he can get revenge and he will soon disappear from relevance like all the rest.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Cowboys to me appear to be trying to do what most fans want them to do - throw more down the field. Beasley isn't well suited for that role, so he is relegated to dump off passes, as a decoy or as a "surprise!" receiver.

Doubt he'll be here next year unless he's willing to accept a very team friendly salary, and at 30 years old that might be his only option, though how many times have we seen teams overpay somebody because they feel he's so much better than what they currently have on their team, or fills a role that they have nobody for currently?

I'd like to see him stay, at the least if he gets some passes it can pull some coverage down from Cooper and Gallup.

In any case, he'd better count his blessings, to be a smaller guy like he is and get to play for the Dallas Cowboys is probably more than he could have realistically hope for coming out of college...

 

[Doomsday101]

The Fair Catches inside the 10 are driving me nuts!
This has been going on for years now.

Given the fact we always seem to get a flag on returns I just as soon fair catch it than get backed up half the distance to the goal line.

 

[Roadtrip635]

He or Austin will eventually get targets when a team decides they must double Cooper.
I think up to this point teams have wanted Dak to prove he can hit the top receiver downfield rather than give him the easier throws to guys like Beasley across the middle. When a team decides they must take Cooper away by committing two defenders to Cooper, Beasley or someone will start getting open for the easy throws.

I think this is pretty accurate. Once team's start rolling extra coverage to Coop we'll likely see more passes to Beasley. A 200 yd/3 TD day tends to get other team's attention pretty quick. Throw in the fact he has 40, 75 and 90yd TD passes in a few games, teams will start to worry.

I like Beez, but don't think he'll be here next season, just too many other guys to pay. TE is a higher priority and is more useful in this offense than a slot WR. I can see us picking up another WR in the middle/late rounds or signing a young guy with some upside in the offseason.

 

[stilltheguru]

Every good receiver wants the ball and is not happy when they don't get it. It's called competitiveness, and it's a good trait for a receiver.

As far as fielding the punts with fair catches, how do we know that he has been told to use his own judgment, or whether he's been told to fair catch it? If there's no running lane, he should fair catch it.

We can't sit in our living room and say a player should be returning it when we don't see what he sees and know what he's been told...

As long as you had this same energy with past receivers then it’s all good.

 

[conner01]

Every good receiver wants the ball and is not happy when they don't get it. It's called competitiveness, and it's a good trait for a receiver.

As far as fielding the punts with fair catches, how do we know that he has been told to use his own judgment, or whether he's been told to fair catch it? If there's no running lane, he should fair catch it.

We can't sit in our living room and say a player should be returning it when we don't see what he sees and know what he's been told...

I don’t think Beasley is a punt returner but he’s doing it because we traded our punt returner for a guy we cut
Someone has to do it and he does it because he doesn’t turn the ball over

 

[Falco78]

We should have kept Switzer and gotten rid of Gathers. Gathers has not been what we thought he would turn out to be; actually, Gathers looks a bit awkward on the field but Im sure he is rusty from being benched most of the game.

The one thing I did notice is Gathers blocking is rather impressive. I rewatched the game and just focused on some individuals

 

[LACowboysFan1]

I don’t think Beasley is a punt returner but he’s doing it because we traded our punt returner for a guy we cut
Someone has to do it and he does it because he doesn’t turn the ball over

And you have to look at where the ball is punted from, if the opposing team punts from like the 50 yard line, with a hang time of even 4 seconds, the punt coverage guys have plenty of time to get down near Beasley. Long punt returns seldom happen unless the ball gets to the returner with enough time for him to make the catch, scan the field and get up a head of steam to be able to make cuts, etc. The Cowboys' "bend don't break" defense doesn't hold teams to their own 25-30 yard line much. In watching the games I'm seeing by the time Beasley gets the ball, there's 2-3 defenders right in his face. Sure a Deion Sanders could break some long returns even with players in his face, but Deion-type players are few and far between...

 

[LACowboysFan1]

The one thing I did notice is Gathers blocking is rather impressive. I rewatched the game and just focused on some individuals

I thought Gathers was signed to be a red zone, out-jump defender td threat? When has he ever been thrown to in the end zone this year?

Don't recall any, maybe I just forgot them, but there's certainly not a lot of them....

 

[conner01]

And you have to look at where the ball is punted from, if the opposing team punts from like the 50 yard line, with a hang time of even 4 seconds, the punt coverage guys have plenty of time to get down near Beasley. Long punt returns seldom happen unless the ball gets to the returner with enough time for him to make the catch, scan the field and get up a head of steam to be able to make cuts, etc. The Cowboys' "bend don't break" defense doesn't hold teams to their own 25-30 yard line much. In watching the games I'm seeing by the time Beasley gets the ball, there's 2-3 defenders right in his face. Sure a Deion Sanders could break some long returns even with players in his face, but Deion-type players are few and far between...

Very true
As a returner Beasley is a safe guy
He’s not fast enough to be a impact guy and is easy to tackle
I’d love a real return guy but the most important job of a punt returner is catch the ball
Those 6 or 7 extra yards from a returner are great but one turnover on a punt can change a game

 

[remdak]

I thought Gathers was signed to be a red zone, out-jump defender td threat? When has he ever been thrown to in the end zone this year?

Don't recall any, maybe I just forgot them, but there's certainly not a lot of them....

It's happened twice. Dak missed him both times, once when he was wide open and once on a jump ball Dak threw it too high even for Rico (I think he was held as well). Not blaming either player, because I don't know if Rico ran a route Dak wasn't expecting or Dak just missed him.

 

[Awakened]

Didn't we sign Austin thinking he would return punts? Wasn't he returning some punts before he got hurt?

 

[jrumann59]

wait let me get this straight, people complain that the offense is "predictable" but are complaining that the one of the most "limited" players in this offense is disappearing. Beasley is the Dez Bryant of the slot, this offense has him running three routes from the slot and teams know how to defend it and can see it coming.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Didn't we sign Austin thinking he would return punts? Wasn't he returning some punts before he got hurt?

Yes, he had 10 returns, only a 5.8 average....

 

[guag]

He and Hurns numbers are def down......

Implying Hurns ever had any numbers to speak of before the trade.

 

[guag]

Well, when you drop EASY TDs and throw your QB under the bus ....

There's a joke in there somewhere about throwing a bus driver under his own bus lol

 

[fansince68]

Not his fault the ball doesn't come his way much anymore. He's the same player.

As for punts they trust him to not fumble that's about it.

Funny how guys who aren't used right get called bums.

He'll be somewhere else next year and be productive. He's been a good Cowboy

I'm ok with the fair catches. Unlike other back up wr/pr..Bease starts on offense. He is the pr because he has good hands.

 

[buybuydandavis]

I honestly thought his catches/targets would go up a bit after the trade.

On actual passing downs, double Beasley and Cooper, man up the rest.

On 1st and 2nd, can't still double both and have a chance of stopping Zeke ( and Dak). Beasley should get plenty of man coverage on 1st and 2nd. He could start producing like 2016 when teams were still doubling Dez.