Another WR Option

[Big Dakota]

Another long, drawn out battle over an average at best player.

 

[dogunwo]

This is exactly what I am speaking of in terms of overrating our players.

What has Amendola done again? Battle has started games and has produced.

Thank you. I wish people would get off of Amendola's sack until he has at least shown something in a preseason game.

 

[theogt]

Thank you. I wish people would get off of Amendola's sack until he has at least shown something in a preseason game.

Who's on his sack? I don't see anyone really saying he's going to be the next Welker. I guess people just like to feel like realists who are smarter than everyone else, but there's really no one saying he's going to be the next Welker.

 

[Alexander]

Who's on his sack? I don't see anyone really saying he's going to be the next Welker. I guess people just like to feel like realists who are smarter than everyone else, but there's really no one saying he's going to be the next Welker.

No, there are just people like you saying he's as good as someone who has been in the league for years and has actually started an NFL game.

That is like me saying that Richard Bartell is as good as Matt Schaub, well, because I think he is.

 

[theogt]

No, there are just people like you saying he's as good as someone who has been in the league for years and has actually started an NFL game.

That is like me saying that Richard Bartell is as good as Matt Schaub, well, because I think he is.

No, it's not like that at all. Saying he can be at least as good as someone who is well below average isn't exactly praise. Just because you have Battle on some strange pedestal doesn't mean he's actually any good.

 

[Zaxor]

. With Mike Martz on board and a group that includes Issac Bruce, Bryant Johnson, Jason Hill, Josh Morgan, Ashley Lelie and two solid TEs in Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker, will there be enough balls to go around?

Here is the problem with this imho..

If Arnez can't beat out these guys

Bruce who is very close to being at the end if not already done...
Hill who caught all of 1 pass last year
Lelie a never been who caught all of 10 passes last year
Josh Morgan..Who?
and a just okay Bryant Johnson..

How much of an upgrade can he be...

 

[Zen]

Battle is an ok third reciever, which is not needed. Lelie would be interesting for his speed, throw a 5th at him. Stanbeck is a waste of space. Austin might come around. Glenn is done. Maybe we can trade Roy Williams for Teddy Ginn in Miami, not that I like Ginn, but roy is gone after this year. Tuna likes Roy I hope.

 

[Stash]

While I like the concept of looking for other receivers, I don't think Battle brings the speed component this team needs at the position.

 

[Sarge]

bring him in cheap!

...and replace who???

 

[dbair1967]

I think to many fans overrate what we have, Crayton in particular. He should be a third option, not a second.

and Battle should be an end of the roster guy, not a regular on the offense

David

 

[dbair1967]

Originally Posted by Alexander
. With Mike Martz on board and a group that includes Issac Bruce, Bryant Johnson, Jason Hill, Josh Morgan, Ashley Lelie and two solid TEs in Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker, will there be enough balls to go around?

dude 10 balls a game will be plenty for that group because the Niners quite possibly have the worst QB situation in the NFL...they drafted one of the biggest busts in NFL history #1 overall a few yrs back, and nobody else on that team is any better than he is

the Niners quite possibly will end up at the bottom of virtually every offensive and passing team statistic, including scoring...2-14 looks about right for that team

David

 

[DallasEast]

dude 10 balls a game will be plenty for that group because the Niners quite possibly have the worst QB situation in the NFL...they drafted one of the biggest busts in NFL history #1 overall a few yrs back, and nobody else on that team is any better than he is

the Niners quite possibly will end up at the bottom of virtually every offensive and passing team statistic, including scoring...2-14 looks about right for that team

David

No team is more thankful than the Texans are that the 49ers drafted Alex Smith. That monkey of drafting David Carr is still on their backs, but it's much lighter now. I wonder how many more years will San Francisco invest in Smith? The Texans gave up after five seasons with Carr and this will be Smith's fourth with the Niners. I'll bet the deadline will run about the same and Smith will be on another team's roster in 2010.

 

[dooomsday]

There is still an idea around that we will go after a veteran WR of some kind soon.

Roy Williams, Chad Johnson and Anquan Boldin are mere pipe dreams. They would cost too much and I don't see them fitting very well. Plus, they are very important pieces of their team's plans. They aren't going to be given away, contract issues or pouting aside.

So what other options are there? To me, there is only one other veteran who might be capable of beating out Crayton that might be available.

Arnaz Battle.

I don't know how much anyone has watched him, but he is a very underrated player who is perhaps the best blocking WR you have never heard of.

He has historically had very sure hands (no drops in 2006 but had a horrible 2007). He had a terrible year last season and has skipped some OTAs for them as he appears destined for the third spot. With Mike Martz on board and a group that includes Issac Bruce, Bryant Johnson, Jason Hill, Josh Morgan, Ashley Lelie and two solid TEs in Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker, will there be enough balls to go around?

He is reportedly not happy he's not getting the chance to fight for his starting job with Bryant Johnson a favorite of new WR coach Jerry Sullivan and Nolan is not happy with his decision to skip workouts. He is most certainly worth a shot.

Plus, he does call Dallas home.

I like Battle. He could definately start over CrayHurdStin.

 

[links18]

Who's on his sack? I don't see anyone really saying he's going to be the next Welker. I guess people just like to feel like realists who are smarter than everyone else, but there's really no one saying he's going to be the next Welker.

Dude, three-quarters of this board already has Amendola making the roster and about half have him as the next Welker. Why? Because he went to Texas Tech and looks like Welker? This cr@p happens every year, where people think we are set because we picked up some UDFA. We are also hearing the same thing about Miles Austin, because some writer asked if he was pushing Crayton. Before that, it was all about how we didn't need another vet WR, because we have Stanback, who has never caught an NFL pass.

People are delusional with their optimism. I don't know if Battle is the answer, but we need to keep our options open.

 

[theogt]

Dude, three-quarters of this board already has Amendola making the roster and about half have him as the next Welker. Why? Because he went to Texas Tech and looks like Welker? This cr@p happens every year, where people think we are set because we picked up some UDFA. We are also hearing the same thing about Miles Austin, because some writer asked if he was pushing Crayton. Before that, it was all about how we didn't need another vet WR, because we have Stanback, who has never caught an NFL pass.

People are delusional with their optimism. I don't know if Battle is the answer, but we need to keep our options open.

I'd bet you couldn't find 3 people that think he's "the next Welker." It's a ghost. No one actually believes this. You just like to feel better about yourself for being the realist that tells people how it is.

As far as making the roster, how is that such a remarkable achievement? It's not as if we have a wealth of depth at WR. Otherwise, why would we be constantly discussing it? I mean, after all, the guy did produce in college, so it's not as if he's some random scrub.

It's pretty comical that you think people overrate Miles Austin, but you also think it's unreasonable for some to think Amendola could make the roster. Because, you know, Miles Austin is one of those guys just ahead of Amendola on the roster, and was an UDFA just two short years ago. Contradict yourself, much?

 

[Alexander]

It's pretty comical that you think people overrate Miles Austin, but you also think it's unreasonable for some to think Amendola could make the roster. Because, you know, Miles Austin is one of those guys just ahead of Amendola on the roster, and was an UDFA just two short years ago. Contradict yourself, much?

Anyone who knows a thing about either player can tell you there is a radical difference between the two. One actually has the athletic tools to play in the NFL. The other is a cutrate version of Welker. At least Austin has some tools to work with and he is effective on special teams.

The same is not the case with Amendola. What exactly would this little mascot do on this team? Take the third spot from Hurd? Because that's what it would have to be. He's not going to be our punt returner with Jones and Newman on the team. He's not going to cover kicks.

 

[theogt]

Anyone who knows a thing about either player can tell you there is a radical difference between the two.

Noooooooo....you're kidding right? Thanks for that keen insight in regards to a 6'3" 210+ lb receiver with speed being different than a 5'11" 180+ lbs receiver with quickness.

But there's one thing Amendola does have that Miles Austin hasn't quite had, and that's hands and body coordination to catch the ball. I'm not saying Austin can't develop that, but in the past, he's been lacking in that category -- to the extent that I wouldn't consider his position on the roster a lock.

The same is not the case with Amendola. What exactly would this little mascot do on this team? Take the third spot from Hurd? Because that's what it would have to be. He's not going to be our punt returner with Jones and Newman on the team. He's not going to cover kicks.

Hurd's JAG. He's nothing more than a serviceable #3, in my opinion. There's a practice called "churning the bottom of the roster" and Hurd just seems like one of those UDFAs that's not quite going to make it in the NFL. Good hands and work ethic, but not much else. He's a poor man's Patrick Crayton and we've already got the original.

Amendola may or may not be more than that, but it's not as if Hurd is too valuable to warrant not churning the bottom of the roster.

 

[Alexander]

Hurd's JAG. He's nothing more than a serviceable #3, in my opinion. There's a practice called "churning the bottom of the roster" and Hurd just seems like one of those UDFAs that's not quite going to make it in the NFL. Good hands and work ethic, but not much else. He's a poor man's Patrick Crayton and we've already got the original.

So, you heard it here first everyone. Theogt believes Danny Amendola can actually take the third WR spot from Hurd just based off a few OTAs he never even saw.

Amendola may or may not be more than that, but it's not as if Hurd is too valuable to warrant not churning the bottom of the roster.

The competition for the third WR spot on any team is not "churning the bottom of the roster" any more than a nickel cornerback is. The player you have there should be a quasi-starter and it is where Crayton really belongs. It is a legitimate weakness on this team and no pint-sized everyman from Texas Tech is going even compete for it, much less solve it.

 

[JonJon]

Anyone who knows a thing about either player can tell you there is a radical difference between the two. One actually has the athletic tools to play in the NFL. The other is a cutrate version of Welker. At least Austin has some tools to work with and he is effective on special teams.

The same is not the case with Amendola. What exactly would this little mascot do on this team? Take the third spot from Hurd? Because that's what it would have to be. He's not going to be our punt returner with Jones and Newman on the team. He's not going to cover kicks.

I think he has a shot if Glenn does not sign. He would only have to beat out Mike Jefferson, Mark Bradford, and Daniel Polk, assuming we keep six receivers. If Glenn is signed, then it becomes even more difficult because he has to beat out Austin, Hurd, or Stanback. Neither one is impossible. I do agree with Theogt in that Hurd is nothing special; a poor man's Crayton. Amendola may beat him out if he proves to have more upside in training camp and Austin emerges as a legitimate receiving threat.

 

[Alexander]

I think he has a shot if Glenn does not sign. He would only have to beat out Mike Jefferson, Mark Bradford, and Daniel Polk, assuming we keep six receivers.

I strongly doubt we keep six receivers. Regardless, that still doesn't answer the question. What would little Danny be doing to legitimize his spot?