Another WR Option

[JonJon]

I strongly doubt we keep six receivers. Regardless, that still doesn't answer the question. What would little Danny be doing to legitimize his spot?

I think we will only because we don't have a lot of experience outside of Owens and Crayton, so we really need all the help we can get at that position.

As for Danny, one advantage that he may have over Hurd, Austin, and Stanback is that he runs crisp routes, can get open and has reliable hands, according to early reports. I can see him doing some damage as a slot receiver in the future, but I doubt he has any impact on this year's roster.

The reason why I think he could stick around is because he may have a better future than Hurd because he is the less physically gifted of the youngin's.

 

[theogt]

So, you heard it here first everyone. Theogt believes Danny Amendola can actually take the third WR spot from Hurd just based off a few OTAs he never even saw.

The competition for the third WR spot on any team is not "churning the bottom of the roster" any more than a nickel cornerback is. The player you have there should be a quasi-starter and it is where Crayton really belongs. It is a legitimate weakness on this team and no pint-sized everyman from Texas Tech is going even compete for it, much less solve it.

Actually, I think the most probable scenario is Hurd's spot will be taken either this year by Glenn or possibly even Austin or Stanback. Hence, I don't consider Hurd's roster spot as the #3 receiver spot, and do think it's considered 'churning.'

 

[Sarge]

 

[links18]

I'd bet you couldn't find 3 people that think he's "the next Welker." It's a ghost. No one actually believes this. You just like to feel better about yourself for being the realist that tells people how it is.

Well, if you went back to the first week or so after the draft, you will find a lot of people on this board comparing him to Welker and making statements like "He will be our Welker" or "He could be our Welker." It is not a ghost. This has quieted down some with the media spinning Austin, but it is far from a ghost.

As far as making the roster, how is that such a remarkable achievement? It's not as if we have a wealth of depth at WR. Otherwise, why would we be constantly discussing it? I mean, after all, the guy did produce in college, so it's not as if he's some random scrub.

Its not much of an achievement with what we have at WR, which just proves how thin our WR corps is that we have 2 UDFA and a converted QB behind another converted QB and a guy with one knee.

It's pretty comical that you think people overrate Miles Austin, but you also think it's unreasonable for some to think Amendola could make the roster. Because, you know, Miles Austin is one of those guys just ahead of Amendola on the roster, and was an UDFA just two short years ago. Contradict yourself, much?

I never said it was unreasonable to think he might make the roster. It is unreasonable to think he is a lock to make the roster and it is unreasonale to think he is going to be anything more than a bit player to start out if he does it make it. We still need to think hard about adding a vet wideout and the talk about that "stopping the progression of our young guys" is what is comical. We still have room to add a vet and keep the most promising of the young receivers depending on what happens with Glenn.

 

[tomson75]

I never said it was unreasonable to think he might make the roster. It is unreasonable to think he is a lock to make the roster and it is unreasonale to think he is going to be anything more than a bit player to start out if he does it make it.

That's the thing. No one has said that he is going to amount to anything more than that. The only person that has, by deliberately changing other posters views to suit his own, is obvious. People have compared him to Welker. So what? The guy has openly admitted modeling his game after him, and spent countless hours talking to him and studying him. Who better to compare him to? People are rooting for him to make the team. So what? Personally, I like the idea of having a hard working underdog with the annoying quickness at WR that this team currently lacks. If he makes it, it adds a dimension we don't have without Terry Glenn coming back. No one else on the roster has the same skillset....one that can be effective if used properly.

Do I feel the need to bash other players to get my point across? Nope.

We still need to think hard about adding a vet wideout and the talk about that "stopping the progression of our young guys" is what is comical. We still have room to add a vet and keep the most promising of the young receivers depending on what happens with Glenn.

The problem is that the only vet wideouts that are available aren't going to be upgrades to what we currently have on the roster. Glenn is likely the best route here...and it isn't close. It doesn't make any sense to invest in young players only to turn around six months later to bring in a JAG from another team to take away snaps from younger guys. I doesn't hurt to look, but I doubt they're out there for us this year. Next year, however, could be the year we bring in a capable starter from another team.

 

[dbair1967]

I like Battle. He could definately start over CrayHurdStin.

Maybe on your playstation game, but not in the real world

David

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Uhhh....as I pointed out, his YPA was a terrible 5.7. Yes, you can pretty much guarantee that any WR that can make an NFL roster can match that sort of production.

wasn't that around Crayton's YPA against red and yellow corners?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Another possible WR option could be Josh Reed of the Buffalo Bills. Depending on how quickly rookie James Hardy develops, Reed could become expendable.

Hardy is already pushing for the #2 WR job alongside Lee Evans per camp reports. Reed has missed time due to injuries so I could see the Bills trading him and sliding Roscoe Perrish to the #3 spot.

I would send a 4th or 5th to the Bills for Reed. I doubt it happens though but it is another option worth considering.

that dude has been terribly disappointing

pass

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Actually, I think the most probable scenario is Hurd's spot will be taken either this year by Glenn or possibly even Austin or Stanback. Hence, I don't consider Hurd's roster spot as the #3 receiver spot, and do think it's considered 'churning.'

I think the WR corp will shape up like this, this year:

TO
Crayton
Hurd
Austin
Stanback
Glenn

 

[links18]

That's the thing. No one has said that he is going to amount to anything more than that. The only person that has, by deliberately changing other posters views to suit his own, is obvious. People have compared him to Welker. So what? The guy has openly admitted modeling his game after him, and spent countless hours talking to him and studying him. Who better to compare him to? People are rooting for him to make the team. So what? Personally, I like the idea of having a hard working underdog with the annoying quickness at WR that this team currently lacks. If he makes it, it adds a dimension we don't have without Terry Glenn coming back. No one else on the roster has the same skillset....one that can be effective if used properly.

Do I feel the need to bash other players to get my point across? Nope.




The problem is that the only vet wideouts that are available aren't going to be upgrades to what we currently have on the roster. Glenn is likely the best route here...and it isn't close. It doesn't make any sense to invest in young players only to turn around six months later to bring in a JAG from another team to take away snaps from younger guys. I doesn't hurt to look, but I doubt they're out there for us this year. Next year, however, could be the year we bring in a capable starter from another team.

The point is he is not going to contribute to our offense the way Welker contributed to NE last year. Welker was actually the most productive receiver on an undefeated team. I mean he was almost unstoppable last year. Part of this has to do with being on the field at the same time as Randy Moss, but the point being Amendola is not going to contribute at that level IF he makes the team. So regardless if he models his game after Welker, he WILL NOT be our Welker. Hurd has said he models his game after TO, is he going to be another TO? I doubt it.

I agree it would be fruitless to bring in a JAG veteran, so I really hope Jerry hasn't given up on getting someone who can really contribute and take pressure off of TO and fill in if TO goes down. That person is not on our roster right now. It is silly to count on Glenn lasting the entire year and Jerry seems to acknowledge this with the split contract business. Can you imagine a WR lineup in Nov/Dec of Crayton/Hurd/Austin/Stanback/Amendola? That is where we are headed in TO goes down late in the year, because you can pretty much guarantee Glenn will either be limited or done by then.

 

[dooomsday]

Maybe on your playstation game, but not in the real world

David

Uh huh. Who could be better than our guys? LOL! Our WRs are scrubs. When they prove themselves you can pretend and speculate they will onbe day be better than talented proven players. Until then our #3-5 WRs had a combined 20 total catches.

Oh, thats on their careers.

 

[dbair1967]

Uh huh. Who could be better than our guys? LOL! Our WRs are scrubs. When they prove themselves you can pretend and speculate they will onbe day be better than talented proven players. Until then our #3-5 WRs had a combined 20 total catches.

Oh, thats on their careers.

Battle's last 3 seasons (which constitute almost all his production) he's averaged a paltry 11.3, 11.6 and 12.0 yds per catch...thats awful

Basically it shows he has no speed and very limited run after catch skills...

Yeah, I'll go with what we have here, as Battle is no better than a 4th or 5th WR himself

David

 

[Idgit]

I like Battle. He could definately start over CrayHurdStin.

Deadly Arnaz? Not so much. He's not in Crayton's class, to start with.

Why doesn't this board value Sam Hurd more? Is it because somebody said once that he lacks top-end speed? All he's done is overcome odds and get better and better. He contributes clutch plays when we need them and gets along with everybody on the team. And he's just entering the part of his career where we can expect him to excel. So, of course, we should ship him off for someone that's struggling for playing time on the 9'ers roster.

 

[zeromaster]

Give Sherman some more time with these so-called scrubs and let's see where we are after the second preseason game. Some dice need to be rolled here, and Jerry's the shooter. Give him some elbow room.