Anthony Spencer will/has sign/ed franchise tender

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PJTHEDOORS;5018322 said:
He said one of the top five pass rushers available in free agency this year. Nothing about the league overall.

Yes, my mistake. But he still isn't worth 10 mil a year and I really don't see how anyone thinks that.
 

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Little Jr;5018326 said:
Yes, my mistake. But he still isn't worth 10 mil a year and I really don't see how anyone thinks that.

It is what it is. We need all the good players we can get. Letting him go with no replacement isn't any better.
 

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PJTHEDOORS;5018327 said:
It is what it is. We need all the good players we can get. Letting him go with no replacement isn't any better.

Yes and that is the problem with the cowboys. We give players contract that they don't deserve
 

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Little Jr;5018328 said:
Yes and that is the problem with the cowboys. We give players contract that they don't deserve

So you'd rather lose the player and replace him with a mediocre one. Otay.
 

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PJTHEDOORS;5018335 said:
So you'd rather lose the player and replace him with a mediocre one. Otay.

That logic is why we gave bad contracts to austin, barber, newman, free amongst others. I might be asking to nuch but I would like them to draft and develop players to replace players like sprncer so we don't have to over pay him.
 

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PJTHEDOORS;5018335 said:
So you'd rather lose the player and replace him with a mediocre one. Otay.

That's the world of the NFL sometimes.

Players move every year. It happens.

Is losing Spencer means Dallas could upgrade 2-3 other positions with solid players who won't cost an arm and a leg, seems like a win.
 

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I may easily be wrong but I thought they could sign him and then negotiate a trade where the receiving team would renegotiate a long term contract with the player upon execution of the trade and contingent on that. Of course the league has to stamp its approval.

First of all we don't have anyone we KNOW can take his place. And this could very well be a year he turns the corner from being very good to being a star. If he and Ware get some help then we could very well get 40+ sacks and in turn more turnovers. That probably gives us the opportunity to get 2-3 more wins IMO.

Even if he remains 'just' very good then we potentially don't have a hole there. You'd be hard pressed to convince me and many others there is a player on the team, FA or draft who can fill his shoes this year.

This is really the only option we have right now IMO. And my guess is signing the tag gives the team and player a chance to improve both their positions over the longer term.

The only down side I see is not having locked him up a couple of years ago. And that might have been Spencer's doing as much or more than our FO.

This is a good thing people even though that's a big chunk of change.
 

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Hoofbite;5018341 said:
That's the world of the NFL sometimes.

Players move every year. It happens.

Is losing Spencer means Dallas could upgrade 2-3 other positions with solid players who won't cost an arm and a leg, seems like a win.

And you like the coulda, woulda game with an unknown. I prefer the known.
 

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RoyTheHammer;5018320 said:
Not quite what he said.. but go ahead with the rhetoric.

Oh he's full of rhetoric, read some of his posts. You'll get a better idea of what you're dealing with and then learn to take it with a grain of salt. Dude is entertaining though, he's a bigtime GM. Lol
 

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AsthmaField;5018276 said:
1) Good players at key positions are what helps get beyond 8-8. Letting a good player at an impact position simply walk wouldn't help Dallas win. Particularly when you take into account that the team would then have to find a replacement for him.

2) Spencer has been good since his first year here. If you are talking about high sack totals only then last year was his best. If you are talking about holding the edge, stopping the run, playing a ton of snaps, QB pressures and QB hurries, then he has been stellar since coming to Dallas. There is a lot that goes into playing besides just sacks. Now that he won't be asked to be back in coverage half the time, it will help even more.

I almost wish he had hit free agency so people could have seen what high demand Spencer would have created. Teams would have been lining up for him.

Dude you're making waaaay too much sense. Good post!!!
 

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I feel like we are talking about ware here. Its spencer. Lol. These are the same arguments I heard about free, newman, barber and others. The sad thing is I think why a lot of us think this way is cause we don't trust our team to draft well and replace these players. Lol. Its like oh he's not great but he's good so we better keep him cause we don't know when we might get another. Sad really. It is what is though. That's what I've been told
 

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That makes me think that the Cowboys will go safety in this draft. I don't know if I like that.
 

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pacy;5018365 said:
That makes me think that the Cowboys will go safety in this draft. I don't know if I like that.

Bad contracts and bad drafting have made it difficult to fill all the holes on this team.

2008:

Scandrick (Overpaid #3 CB)

2009:

Depending on negotiations, we could have 0 players left from that draft this year.
 

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pacy;5018365 said:
That makes me think that the Cowboys will go safety in this draft. I don't know if I like that.

What does the above quote mean? All 6? draft picks will be safeties? Or will just the first round pick or third round pick will be a safety?
 

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Mansta54;5018352 said:
Oh he's full of rhetoric, read some of his posts. You'll get a better idea of what you're dealing with and then learn to take it with a grain of salt. Dude is entertaining though, he's a bigtime GM. Lol

so speaks the kool aid addict
 

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last year spencer waited until just before the draft to sign his tender.

This year he waits less than a week.

Interesting.
 

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Little Jr;5018355 said:
I feel like we are talking about ware here. Its spencer. Lol. These are the same arguments I heard about free, newman, barber and others. The sad thing is I think why a lot of us think this way is cause we don't trust our team to draft well and replace these players. Lol. Its like oh he's not great but he's good so we better keep him cause we don't know when we might get another. Sad really. It is what is though. That's what I've been told

Many fans have taken Jerry's attitutude. They overvalue Cowboys players. Jerry has turned down many trade offers for players because he thought more of his players than they were actually worth. There is also a fear that the players can't be replaced. The Cowboys have always held on to players too long and usually overpay when they do.

In Spencer's case, he has had one great year and many solid years. The one great season just happened to be a contract year. It seems that Almost Anthony can really step it up with the proper motivation. I tend to think that he will return to being a solid player after getting a big contract, but he will get paid like a great player. The solid player can be replaced. The great player can not without costing an arm and a leg. Having one breakout year makes me question his effort during his other years in Dallas, as it should. Is a one year wonder worth the gamble? I don't think so. It is cheaper to replace him.
 

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I like Spencer. I think the guy grew a lot last year having to be the leader of the defense and make the defensive calls when Carter and Lee went out. I think he did a lot of growing up by having that role. That being said, I'm concerned about the money. Jerry Jones' inability to draft has left us with numerous holes on this team. Add the fact that him and his son have no idea how to manage the cap, evidenced by the numerous dumb contracts they've handed out the last 5 years. That leads us to the predicament we're in today.
 

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burmafrd;5018387 said:
last year spencer waited until just before the draft to sign his tender.

This year he waits less than a week.

Interesting.

Not interesting at all really, unless you have some agenda you're looking to push. For the rest of us, its just BAU. There's already been talk that both parties are working towards a long term deal anyway, and there's also been talk of using him as trade bait.. so lets just wait and see what is actually going on before we start crying or raging about anything, eh?
 

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burmafrd;5018386 said:
so speaks the kool aid addict

You should try some, maybe you won't be such a negative person all the time. Smh!!!
 
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