Any news on Glover, Allen, Tucker?

[TwoCentPlain]

Anyone hear anything about how Allen (SF), Glover (STL) and Tucker (TB) are doing in camp?

 

[PA Cowboy11]

I know i heard on XM last night that Larry Allen missed at least 1 practice because of knee problems.

 

[Vintage]

Rumor has it, Tucker was a key loss....

 

[superpunk]

Last I heard Tucker was trying to help Phillip Daniels get a new contract.

Stay tuned.

 

[CoCo]

I know i heard on XM last night that Larry Allen missed at least 1 practice because of knee problems.

I've heard one report out of Niner camp that Allen has been revitalized and is looking very good.

Even if its true he wouldn't have been revitalized here. Its over. Move on.

 

[dmq]

Actually, I think Allen sat out a few of the practices early. I looked over at the 9ers board and they are in love w/ him (more perceptually rather than reality). Look, he can still maul people once he gets his hands on you. He just can't pull anymore. We didn't need him for what we were doing. I say good luck to you Larry, but I expect the 9ers to find out about his downside sooner rather than later.

I think Glover will do well, but here is a tid bit from the Rams board on Glover

Tuesday-

Incognito and Barron stood out as the highlights of the OL vs DL drill. Cogs made good work of Glover today, and Barron just ate Hargrove up completely. If Barron gets on you square, you ain't goin nowhere.

Satuday-

First team Oline had trouble moving the DTs out of the way. Kennedy and
Glover were very stout. That wasn't the case with the second unit.

Kennedy did a good job against the run. He was immovable in the middle like he should be. He's the biggest guy on the field. Glover looks kind of funny standing next to him being so much smaller.

When the offensive and defensive linemen squared off in drills, it was a little difficult to see, but I know that Hargrove got the best of Pace today. On the other hand, Incognito got the best of Glover this time. Kennedy split with McCollllum, as Barron did with Little. Tony Palmer did a good job against Brian Howard. Ben Noll took Matthew Rice to IHOP in a big way.

Glover took a ration of you-know-what for jumping offsides and then trying to blame McCollum. "WE GOT REFS TODAY! THEY DIDN'T THROW NO FLAG!" quickly depleted La'Roi of any further argument.


Torrin Tucker has also been out for several days with a knee injury

 

[InmanRoshi]

He'll probably be awesome for the 49ers. I still think it was stupid to release him, but in the end it was all about money. Jerry said he graded out as the best OL on our team last year, and he was a hell of a lot better than Marco Rivera. There was a recent article written about him in the SF paper where he did a year's worth of talking. I can't wait for his Hall of Fame induction speach. I bet it takes 2 minutes and he's got a lip full of dip.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/49ers/ci_4135479

SANTA CLARA — He is conceivably the strongest man to roam the fields of the NFL. Weight rooms shrink in his presence.
He is among the meanest ever to roam the league, too. Opponents have been suspected of being intimidated into invisibility.
So Larry Allen needs no big stick. He walks as softly or loudly as he dang well pleases. He can speak at any volume he likes, or not at all, and still be heard.
That's because Allen is less a football player than an attitude.
Some need only to project their general statement. No words are required for Ice Cube's face, Ben Wallace's hair or Allen Iverson's tattoos.
Same with Larry Allen's mere being. At 6-foot-3 and about 340 pounds, the 49ers guard is might and menace personified.
"If you don't have that attitude," he says, "what's the point of being out there?"
Allen has been on the field for much of his life. Four high schools in four years, from Centennial High in Compton as a freshman to Vintage High in Napa as a senior. Two years at Butte Community College in Oroville, one year out of football, then two years at Division II Sonoma State in Rohnert Park. The past 12 years have been with the Dallas Cowboys, where Allen earned a Super Bowl ring, seven All-Pro selections and 10 Pro Bowl selections — establishing Hall of Fame credentials.
That's not all he established. Allen also built a reputation for destroying opponents. For being maybe the biggest, baddest bully in football.
So when the Cowboys released him in March, four months after his 34th birthday and five weeks after he started in the Pro Bowl, the 49ers took two days to work out a contract.
They wanted Allen to provide leadership for the youngsters on the roster. To set an example. Surely a man who could squat lift 905 pounds and bench press 700 would eat bricks and spit out sand, then teach his teammates how to do it.
"We like his play, his unspoken leadership," Niners coach Mike Nolan says. "He's a quiet guy, but he leads. The other guys all look over at him.
"But he's tough. I mean he is TOUGH. It's not like he jumps up and kicks somebody's tail and says, 'I'm tough.' He just does his job, and it's like, 'My goodness, look at what he just did.'"
That Allen has the perfect temperament for a football player, clean but unapologetically ferocious, makes him a role model in uniform.
"I try to just lead by example," he says. "I'm not a big talker. I try to use good technique — with a nasty streak. But I'm not one of those guys who talks and yells at people — unless they need it."
As the oldest every-down member of the team, Allen is the reserved but intimidating father figure. The teammate who loafs or plays soft might meet a fate similar to the opponent who lines up across from him.
"He's not nice to guys," Nolan says with delight. "At the end of plays, he's really not nice. And I really like that. If he's going to play you, he's going to make sure you know about it. He's going to make you go back to the huddle wondering whether you really want to do this."
Allen's attitude comes from many sources. Some of it is genetic, from his mother, Vera, who declined to raise a pacifist.
"I couldn't go home and cry to mama," Allen recalls. "She would make me go back out there and fight. Until I won."
But some of Allen's mean streak was culled from the streets of south central Los Angeles, where violence was a daily existence.
"I wasn't a gangbanger," Allen says. "But I wasn't a punk, either."
He was, above all, a survivor grateful for a game affording him a way to productively channel his inner rage.
Which stayed with him even when the family moved to Yountville to live with his great-grandmother, Ida Dancy. It was in the wine country that Allen realized there was more to life than what he witnessed in Compton.
"I made some friends up there," he says. "I saw I didn't have to live like I did in Compton. You could wear whatever color you wanted. You didn't have to beat up people to be popular. It was cool. It was like the 'Cosby Show.' No gangbanging or anything."
So began the love affair with the Bay Area. After attending Butte, he returned to Compton to sleep on his mother's couch and ponder his future. The Sonoma coaches kept calling, until Allen showed up on campus.
Unable to forget his time here, Allen and his wife, Janelle, bought a home two years ago in Blackhawk. They plan to raise their three children, then retire here.
In the meantime, for another year or three — at least until Allen fails to make the Pro Bowl — there are teammates to tutor, opponents to punish.
"It's football," he says. "We have pads on, it's legal, so it's OK."

 

[diamond cutter]

He'll probably be awesome for the 49ers. I still think it was stupid to release him, but in the end it was all about money. Jerry said he graded out as the best OL on our team last year, and he was a hell of a lot better than Marco Rivera. There was a recent article written about him in the SF paper where he did a year's worth of talking. I can't wait for his Hall of Fame induction speach. I bet it takes 2 minutes and he's got a lip full of dip.

Unfortunately today's NFL leaves little room for loyalty. The only way to build a consistant winner is to maticulously manage the cap. I appreciate everything that LA did for the franchise, but the bottom line is that he was overpaid the last few years. Unfortunately, teams cannot survive today by overpaying their players just to keep them with thier teams. I have no doubt in my mind that he would still be with the team had his salary not been so large.

 

[Alexander]

That's not all he established. Allen also built a reputation for destroying opponents. For being maybe the biggest, baddest bully in football.

Larry Allen wasn't a bully. Erik Williams was a bully.

 

[Chief]

I can't wait for his Hall of Fame induction speach. I bet it takes 2 minutes and he's got a lip full of dip.

That's what always makes me laugh ... imagining Larry Allen's Hall of Fame speech.

For some reason, I'm not expecting a Rayfield Wright type of performance.

 

[kTXe]

and Barron just ate Hargrove up completely. If Barron gets on you square, you ain't goin nowhere.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6UyKz_VRxJ4

 

[Alexander]

That's what always makes me laugh ... imagining Larry Allen's Hall of Fame speech.

For some reason, I'm not expecting a Rayfield Wright type of performance.

And now the newest member of the Hall of Fame, OG Larry Allen--

Allen: Thank you. (shuffles message cards and leaves)

 

[Chief]

Transcript of Larry Allen's Hall of Fame speech:

(Spits into Stirofoam cup)

(Nods to the crowd)

Uhhh ... hey .... it's good to ... uhhh ... be .... in .... the .... hall of fame .. uh ... with these other dudes.

(spits into cup)

(wipes sweat from forehead)

I ... uhhh ... lifted a lot of .... uh ... weights.

(grunts)

I ... got ... uhh ... real ... strong ... and uhh ... blocked some guys.

(spits into cup)

I ... block ... good.

(grunts, then turns around and nods at Emmitt, smiling ... his smile reveals a wad of Copenhagen snuff under his lip).

I ... uh ... flattened some guys ...

(spits)

It was .... uh ... fun.

(wipes sweat)

I rode .... stationary bike ... for Parcells.

(spits)

I ... uh ... lifted a lot of ... .uhh. ... weight.

(grunts)

I liked football.

(wipes sweat ... and spits)

Thanks.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Larry Allen wasn't a bully. Erik Williams was a bully.

He could be if you made him mad enough.

One time when the Cowboys were playing the Lions I saw a play where LA blew Shaun Rogers about 5 yards straight backwards and pancaked him on the ground. While Rogers was laying with his stomach on the ground, LA climbed on top of him and seemed to simulate a very intimate act on him which reminded me of a scene from Oz. Rogers sat out the next two series.

 

[Alexander]

He could be if you made him mad enough.

That was part of the problem however.

If.

Apparently Warren Sapp was sweet talking him the last two times he played against him.

I just admired the way Erik Williams would literally beat up his opponents. He used to just treat William Fuller like he owned him. I also recall Reggie White getting beaten down into submission. It was beautiful to watch.

We rarely saw that type of consistent nastiness from Larry Allen. Unless you were Jose Cortez of course.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

Transcript of Larry Allen's Hall of Fame speech:

(Spits into Stirofoam cup)

(Nods to the crowd)

Uhhh ... hey .... it's good to ... uhhh ... be .... in .... the .... hall of fame .. uh ... with these other dudes.

(spits into cup)

(wipes sweat from forehead)

I ... uhhh ... lifted a lot of .... uh ... weights.

(grunts)

I ... got ... uhh ... real ... strong ... and uhh ... blocked some guys.

(spits into cup)

I ... block ... good.

(grunts, then turns around and nods at Emmitt, smiling ... his smile reveals a wad of Copenhagen snuff under his lip).

I ... uh ... flattened some guys ...

(spits)

It was .... uh ... fun.

(wipes sweat)

I rode .... stationary bike ... for Parcells.

(spits)

I ... uh ... lifted a lot of ... .uhh. ... weight.

(grunts)

I liked football.

(wipes sweat ... and spits)

Thanks.

:laugh1:

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

And now the newest member of the Hall of Fame, OG Larry Allen--

Allen: Thank you. (shuffles message cards and leaves)

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

He'll probably be awesome for the 49ers. I still think it was stupid to release him, but in the end it was all about money. Jerry said he graded out as the best OL on our team last year, and he was a hell of a lot better than Marco Rivera. There was a recent article written about him in the SF paper where he did a year's worth of talking. I can't wait for his Hall of Fame induction speach. I bet it takes 2 minutes and he's got a lip full of dip.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/49ers/ci_4135479

SANTA CLARA — He is conceivably the strongest man to roam the fields of the NFL. Weight rooms shrink in his presence.
He is among the meanest ever to roam the league, too. Opponents have been suspected of being intimidated into invisibility.
So Larry Allen needs no big stick. He walks as softly or loudly as he dang well pleases. He can speak at any volume he likes, or not at all, and still be heard.
That's because Allen is less a football player than an attitude.
Some need only to project their general statement. No words are required for Ice Cube's face, Ben Wallace's hair or Allen Iverson's tattoos.
Same with Larry Allen's mere being. At 6-foot-3 and about 340 pounds, the 49ers guard is might and menace personified.
"If you don't have that attitude," he says, "what's the point of being out there?"
Allen has been on the field for much of his life. Four high schools in four years, from Centennial High in Compton as a freshman to Vintage High in Napa as a senior. Two years at Butte Community College in Oroville, one year out of football, then two years at Division II Sonoma State in Rohnert Park. The past 12 years have been with the Dallas Cowboys, where Allen earned a Super Bowl ring, seven All-Pro selections and 10 Pro Bowl selections — establishing Hall of Fame credentials.
That's not all he established. Allen also built a reputation for destroying opponents. For being maybe the biggest, baddest bully in football.
So when the Cowboys released him in March, four months after his 34th birthday and five weeks after he started in the Pro Bowl, the 49ers took two days to work out a contract.
They wanted Allen to provide leadership for the youngsters on the roster. To set an example. Surely a man who could squat lift 905 pounds and bench press 700 would eat bricks and spit out sand, then teach his teammates how to do it.
"We like his play, his unspoken leadership," Niners coach Mike Nolan says. "He's a quiet guy, but he leads. The other guys all look over at him.
"But he's tough. I mean he is TOUGH. It's not like he jumps up and kicks somebody's tail and says, 'I'm tough.' He just does his job, and it's like, 'My goodness, look at what he just did.'"
That Allen has the perfect temperament for a football player, clean but unapologetically ferocious, makes him a role model in uniform.
"I try to just lead by example," he says. "I'm not a big talker. I try to use good technique — with a nasty streak. But I'm not one of those guys who talks and yells at people — unless they need it."
As the oldest every-down member of the team, Allen is the reserved but intimidating father figure. The teammate who loafs or plays soft might meet a fate similar to the opponent who lines up across from him.
"He's not nice to guys," Nolan says with delight. "At the end of plays, he's really not nice. And I really like that. If he's going to play you, he's going to make sure you know about it. He's going to make you go back to the huddle wondering whether you really want to do this."
Allen's attitude comes from many sources. Some of it is genetic, from his mother, Vera, who declined to raise a pacifist.
"I couldn't go home and cry to mama," Allen recalls. "She would make me go back out there and fight. Until I won."
But some of Allen's mean streak was culled from the streets of south central Los Angeles, where violence was a daily existence.
"I wasn't a gangbanger," Allen says. "But I wasn't a punk, either."
He was, above all, a survivor grateful for a game affording him a way to productively channel his inner rage.
Which stayed with him even when the family moved to Yountville to live with his great-grandmother, Ida Dancy. It was in the wine country that Allen realized there was more to life than what he witnessed in Compton.
"I made some friends up there," he says. "I saw I didn't have to live like I did in Compton. You could wear whatever color you wanted. You didn't have to beat up people to be popular. It was cool. It was like the 'Cosby Show.' No gangbanging or anything."
So began the love affair with the Bay Area. After attending Butte, he returned to Compton to sleep on his mother's couch and ponder his future. The Sonoma coaches kept calling, until Allen showed up on campus.
Unable to forget his time here, Allen and his wife, Janelle, bought a home two years ago in Blackhawk. They plan to raise their three children, then retire here.
In the meantime, for another year or three — at least until Allen fails to make the Pro Bowl — there are teammates to tutor, opponents to punish.
"It's football," he says. "We have pads on, it's legal, so it's OK."

I like this thread.

Cowboys are gonna regret letting him go. Should have gone at least 1 more year.

 

[Screw The Hall]

The word out of Buc camp is that Tucker has consistently been the worst OL there, literally getting beat by everyone. A few of my favorite lines from a few training camp observers off their board.


Instead of starting a new thread and saying the same thing in different ways I'm going to concur with Prefer, Scott, and Hate. Compared to the first two days, I thought today lacked a little fire, overall. The Ol and DL got into it today and that was fun to watch. The only real loser was again Torrin Tucker. I'm also begining to think that my man may not make it. Personally I love the fact that Jeb is running more with the first team. He seems to fit in there without much of a drop off, if any.


... and from a different poster this gem ...



Other quick observations:

-Anthony Davis looks very athletic less the pounds he shed in the off-season
-Michael Clayton turned in the catch of the day by leaping in the air, stopping the ball with one hand, securing it on his hip, and falling to the ground for what would have been a sure reception.
-Jeb Terry got a lot of run with the first team in the evening session.
-Torrin Tucker was getting mauled by nearly every DE he faced to include Andrew Williams who rag dolled him a couple of times.
-While the 6'7 Matt Kranchick may not be a lock for this roster he flashed a few times today with some great grabs in traffic. What a target!


... I haven't seen one positive post about his play from the Buc faithful who have been in attendance at training camp.

 

[RiggoForever]

That was part of the problem however.

If.

Apparently Warren Sapp was sweet talking him the last two times he played against him.

I just admired the way Erik Williams would literally beat up his opponents. He used to just treat William Fuller like he owned him. I also recall Reggie White getting beaten down into submission. It was beautiful to watch.

We rarely saw that type of consistent nastiness from Larry Allen. Unless you were Jose Cortez of course.

Nobody could block Reggie White successfully without help because he had the club move down to an art and would literally lift tackles off the ground.

If he could be blocked one on one he wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame on his first try.