Any news on Glover, Allen, Tucker?

[RiggoForever]

That was not the case. Sorry Eric Williams dominated Reggie every time Dallas faced GB and did so one on one. This was a big reason Dallas beat GB in all of those playoffs games in the 90's.

On an unrelated note, why did Williams retire at 32? I know he was a really good tackle so that surprised me.

I didn't know that anybody ever went one on one against Reggie White for a game and held him sackless without help.

Didn't White and the Eagles get something like 11 sacks in one game against Aikman in the 1991 season?

 

[trickblue]

I can see how he would struggle, if Williams had TE help.

Like DD said... it was one on one domination...

White was never a factor in those games when Willimas played...

 

[trickblue]

On an unrelated note, why did Williams retire at 32? I know he was a really good tackle so that surprised me.

I didn't know that anybody ever went one on one against Reggie White for a game and held him sackless without help.

Didn't White and the Eagles get something like 11 sacks in one game against Aikman in the 1991 season?

He was in a car accident and injured his knee severely... he was never the same after that...

 

[dbair1967]

No I don't watch all of the games.

But a hall of fame defensive end like Reggie White doesn't get stonewalled one on one routinely, by anybody.

If he were, he wouldn't be in the hall of fame, and Erik Williams would be.

uh, whatever man

it happened...we all saw it...and we played Philly 3 times in 1992, then Green Bay 7 times from 1993-1996...Reggie White was a total non factor in those games that Erik Williams played (especially in 92 & 93)...Madden went on and on about it

David

 

[dbair1967]

On an unrelated note, why did Williams retire at 32? I know he was a really good tackle so that surprised me.

I didn't know that anybody ever went one on one against Reggie White for a game and held him sackless without help.

Didn't White and the Eagles get something like 11 sacks in one game against Aikman in the 1991 season?

that was one game in 1991...Erik Williams was a rookie that yr and wasnt the starter at RT then

David

 

[Doomsday101]

On an unrelated note, why did Williams retire at 32? I know he was a really good tackle so that surprised me.

I didn't know that anybody ever went one on one against Reggie White for a game and held him sackless without help.

Didn't White and the Eagles get something like 11 sacks in one game against Aikman in the 1991 season?

Eagles got the 11 sacks in the 89 season, Troy's rookie year and the talent level on the team was just poor.

 

[RiggoForever]

Ok ok... you guys are right. I knew Williams was good, but not that good. None of the Skins linemen could block White one on one until White was well past his prime.

Still, Williams and White are nemeses of the first order. They have been battling against one another since the day Williams earned National Football Conference offensive player of the week honors in 1992 by holding White to three tackles and no sacks in the Cowboys' 20-10 victory over the Philadelphia Eagles. Williams was a first-year starter that season and proceeded to hold White without a sack in two more meetings before he severely injured his right knee in the October 1994 car accident.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4196/is_19961115/ai_n10286941/pg_2

 

[RiggoForever]

Eagles got the 11 sacks in the 89 season, Troy's rookie year and the talent level on the team was just poor.

It was 1991...I'm pretty sure because that was the year the Eagles had absolutely no offense but one of the best defenses to ever play the game.

They accounted for like 6 of the 9 sacks the Commanders gave up that season, when the Hogs were at their peak.

http://news.pajamasmedia.com/sport/2006/08/05/10042952_Aikman_felt_the_.shtml

Aikman, sacked 11 times in an early 1991 game by an Eagles defense led by White, remembered another game that he considered himself fortunate not to take part in.

 

[Screw The Hall]

No I don't watch all of the games.

But a hall of fame defensive end like Reggie White doesn't get stonewalled one on one routinely, by anybody.

If he were, he wouldn't be in the hall of fame.

Everyone has that one someone they hate to face. For RWhite it was Big E, if he were alive today I guarantee he'd admit that too. Everyone who was a Cowboy fan at that time knew that unlike every other team in the NFL, we didn't have to worry about RWhite while Williams was here. It was quite a luxury to have, and played no small part in our victories over RWhite's teams (Philly-once and GB-3 times)in the playoffs for 4 consecutive years.

People forget how dominant Big E was before his car accident. There was a time when he and not Allen was annointed the best OL in the NFL. It's scary to think about how good he could have been. After the accident he was never the same. Instead of being dominant he was just very good relying on grit and nastiness instead of pure talent to see him through. But that didn't stop him dominating White, he still did that on a regular basis.

I remember when no DB could cover Michael Irvin ... not Darrell Green ... not Deion Sanders ... noone ... until Philly drafted Bobby Taylor. He was Irvin's nemesis, and believe it Big E was Reggie White's.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

I was just curious to see how they were doing in camp so far. How did this turn into a Big E/Larry Allen/Reggie White link is beyond me? So many people digress and this link was not meant to discuss whether they should have been cut or not! Only how they are performing in camp so far. Thanks for the Tucker info. He seems to be having a hard time.

 

[RiggoForever]

Everyone has that one someone they hate to face. For RWhite it was Big E, if he were alive today I guarantee he'd admit that too. Everyone who was a Cowboy fan at that time knew that unlike every other team in the NFL, we didn't have to worry about RWhite while Williams was here. It was quite a luxury to have, and played no small part in our victories over RWhite's teams (Philly-once and GB-3 times)in the playoffs for 4 consecutive years.

People forget how dominant Big E was before his car accident. There was a time when he and not Allen was annointed the best OL in the NFL. It's scary to think about how good he could have been. After the accident he was never the same. Instead of being dominant he was just very good relying on grit and nastiness instead of pure talent to see him through. But that didn't stop him dominating White, he still did that on a regular basis.

I remember when no DB could cover Michael Irvin ... not Darrell Green ... not Deion Sanders ... noone ... until Philly drafted Bobby Taylor. He was Irvin's nemesis, and believe it Big E was Reggie White's.

That's amazing...I stand corrected. To do that in his second year in the league too.

I didn't mean to seem disrespectful...I just don't know of any other tackles in the league that could have stopped White without help when White was in his prime.

 

[Screw The Hall]

I was just curious to see how they were doing in camp so far. How did this turn into a Big E/Larry Allen/Reggie White link is beyond me? So many people digress and this link was not meant to discuss whether they should have been cut or not! Only how they are performing in camp so far. Thanks for the Tucker info. He seems to be having a hard time.

Yes things do go south in a hurry sometimes.


I live in the Tampa area and know alot of Buc fans A few who's opinions I trust say Tucker has been pitiful. I don't know how restrictive his contract is, but it wouldn't be a shock around here if he's cut unless there is some major improvement on his part.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Last I heard Tucker was trying to help Phillip Daniels get a new contract.

Stay tuned.

Tucker help get many a DE a new contract exten over the past 2 yrs.

 

[RiggoForever]

Yes things do go south in a hurry sometimes.


I live in the Tampa area and know alot of Buc fans A few who's opinions I trust say Tucker has been pitiful. I don't know how restrictive his contract is, but it wouldn't be a shock around here if he's cut unless there is some major improvement on his part.

Does Tucker have no chance of making their starting OL? That's saying something, because even when fully healthy Tampas OL left alot to be desired last year.

 

[Screw The Hall]

That's amazing...I stand corrected. To do that in his second year in the league too.

I didn't mean to seem disrespectful...I just don't know of any other tackles in the league that could have stopped White without help when White was in his prime.

No sweat. Alot of people aren't aware of it, sadly even alot of Cowboy fans.

Alot of the hardcore Cowboy fans are touchy where Big E is concerned. We realize how important he was to the 90's dynasty, and how great he could have been.

 

[Screw The Hall]

Does Tucker have no chance of making their starting OL? That's saying something, because even when fully healthy Tampas OL left alot to be desired last year.

Lets put it this way, he doesn't unless something changes big time between now and the start of the season. There's alot that can happen since they haven't even played their 1st prseason game yet but all indications are he is stinking up the place thus far.

 

[YearAfterYear]

Ask Strahan what he thinks of Williams

I remember a time Troy got hit late...no flag and it was Williams' man. The next play Williams just crumpled this guy. I mean he pushed him back, stuck him into the turf and bent him in half. The guy had to leave the game. Does anyone recall the specifics?

 

[WoodysGirl]

That's amazing...I stand corrected. To do that in his second year in the league too.

I didn't mean to seem disrespectful...I just don't know of any other tackles in the league that could have stopped White without help when White was in his prime.

Not being funny, but sometimes Cowboy fans on here kinda know what they're talking about when it comes their players.. It's not always homerism. Dude found one article, but there are several out there when you do just a simple search. Williams was a beast. His car accident de-railed his career in a major way...

 

[tunahelper]

So when the Cowboys released him in March, four months after his 34th birthday and five weeks after he started in the Pro Bowl, the 49ers took two days to work out a contract.
They wanted Allen to provide leadership for the youngsters on the roster. To set an example. Surely a man who could squat lift 905 pounds and bench press 700 would eat bricks and spit out sand, then teach his teammates how to do it.


I compete in powerlifting and that 700LBS. bench was a joke. He had three guys lifting the bar around him as he pushed.
Larry was overrated and he got worse as drugs in sports were being looked at with a microscope.
Anyone ever wonder why his play declined at the sametime the scrunity began?
No man benches over 600lbs without using something.
Also 43 three reps on the bench he did at the pro bowl strength contest does not equate to anywhere near 700lbs.
Larry is a shell of what he once was strength, speed, stamina...

 

[Big Country]

Not being funny, but sometimes Cowboy fans on here kinda know what they're talking about when it comes their players.. It's not always homerism. Dude found one article, but there are several out there when you do just a simple search. Williams was a beast. His car accident de-railed his career in a major way...

DITTO: Dallas was really on a roll too that year in 1994... It was in Switzer's first year and it was after the Arizona game played on a Sunday night... Big E ran his Mercedes right into one of those 4 foot tall concrete highway barriers after drinking it up in the middle of the night. That was AFTER Dallas returned from the desert.

Madden always gushed about Erik W being the best OL-man in football in the early 90's the way he gushed about Larry A being the best OL-man in the later 90's...