Any news on Jaylon Smith?

[Broges74]

Myles Jack was RIGHT THERE and would have helped this year.

 

[DallasDomination]

Myles Jack was RIGHT THERE and would have helped this year.

Been saying this for a while now.. you take Myles Jack. A lot of people liked him more anyways. It's over now, nothing we can do about it.

 

[RS12]

I will say that if the success rate for type 4s is 0 then the success rate between 2's and 3's together would be 60%.

Given that, if the success rate for 2's is twice as much as it is for 3's then the success rate for 2's would be 80%.

Algebra is tough.

I have a fair amount of confidence in the first number --if you completely sever the nerve there is no path for regeneration-- and very little in the second. This is just to give a sense of how the distribution would work out.

So you are using a simple linear equation if four equals 0, and two, three and four average 40, then logically two equals 80? Just asking and trying to follow along here and already having heard your disclaimers.

 

[Haimerej]

So you are using a simple linear equation if four equals 0, and two, three and four average 40, then logically two equals 80? Just asking and trying to follow along here and already having heard your disclaimers.

It seems so.

This is a summary of a study entitled, "Surgical treatment of common peroneal nerve injuries: indications and results. A series of 62 cases."

The study was, "A 62-patient series controlled over a period of 15 years with a post-traumatic palsy of the CPN is reported."

"Nerve repair associated with tibialis tendon transfer dramatically improved the postoperative outcome: at 2 year follow-up, neural regeneration was demonstrated in 90% of the patients. Surgical outcome depends on the causative mechanisms of the lesion: sharp injuries and severe dislocations of the knee had an excellent recovery, while in crush injuries and gunshot wounds good recovery was less common."

 

[Thefeelofcotton]

I know he's active in Madden So there's that. Which, btw, I purposefully am not resigning RoMac just so Jaylon can take over at MLB

 

[RS12]

 

[John813]

I know he's active in Madden So there's that. Which, btw, I purposefully am not resigning RoMac just so Jaylon can take over at MLB

I just cut Ro and just start Jaylon.

To hell with Ro and might as well start gaining XP for JS.

 

[chris1995]

Myles Jack was RIGHT THERE and would have helped this year.

Yeah Dallas could have taken Myles Jack and got Smith in the 3rd round !!!!

 

[Sydla]

Been saying this for a while now.. you take Myles Jack. A lot of people liked him more anyways. It's over now, nothing we can do about it.

Well apparently the Cowboys didn't. Because they were willing to use their 2nd pick on a guy with an injury over Jack. So what's that tell you? Probably that the Cowboys didn't like Jack all that much. I suspect part of it is that they viewed Jack solely as a WLB whereas Smith could play WLB or MLB.

And "a lot of people" also called Jack a lock as a Top Ten pick. That didn't work out as planned either.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I know he had the knee/nerve injury and it was supposed to take time to heal. Has there been any info from the team on his progress?

It's gonna be a long process. I think folks were a little glib to think he'd contribute at any point this season. In my mind, it's best to forget about; let him do his thing and let his body recover and get a progress/status report early next offseason.

 

[aikemirv]

Didn't Jack have micro-fracture surgery?

What is the percentage of players that have micro-fracture that have a successful career after?

If I was choosing between the 2 I would pick a guy who has a better chance of having a long career starting next year than a guy who has a good chance of not lasting 3 years.

 

[xwalker]

Myles Jack was RIGHT THERE and would have helped this year.

With the Romo injury, getting the more likely long term player (Smith) seems like a better investment.

 

[xwalker]

It seems so.

This is a summary of a study entitled, "Surgical treatment of common peroneal nerve injuries: indications and results. A series of 62 cases."

The study was, "A 62-patient series controlled over a period of 15 years with a post-traumatic palsy of the CPN is reported."

"Nerve repair associated with tibialis tendon transfer dramatically improved the postoperative outcome: at 2 year follow-up, neural regeneration was demonstrated in 90% of the patients. Surgical outcome depends on the causative mechanisms of the lesion: sharp injuries and severe dislocations of the knee had an excellent recovery, while in crush injuries and gunshot wounds good recovery was less common."

So is was 90% in general, but higher for Smith's type of injury...

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Didn't Jack have micro-fracture surgery?

What is the percentage of players that have micro-fracture that have a successful career after?

If I was choosing between the 2 I would pick a guy who has a better chance of having a long career starting next year than a guy who has a good chance of not lasting 3 years.

He didn't have microfracture.

 

[TheCount]

With the Romo injury, getting the more likely long term player (Smith) seems like a better investment.

Not sure I see what Romo's injury has to do with Jaylon.

 

[the_h0wey]

It was supposed to have fired by now. Not good IMO.

According to who?

 

[xwalker]

Not sure I see what Romo's injury has to do with Jaylon.

Drafting Myles Jack would be putting more emphasis on the near team because he should be able to play now but might have a very short career. Jaylon Smith is the opposite.

The near team for the Cowboys is looking dicey because of Romo's injury. Any type of all-in move for this season would have been a bad investment if they knew Romo would get injured.

 

[aikemirv]

He didn't have microfracture.

ok but.......One day before the draft, Jack spoke to the New York Post, admitting that the injury came with a degenerative aspect that brings with it the possibility of microfracture surgery, a potentially career-ending procedure, early in his career. He said he would understand if it hurt his draft stock, and called it “nothing extreme.”

 

[xwalker]

Didn't Jack have micro-fracture surgery?

What is the percentage of players that have micro-fracture that have a successful career after?

If I was choosing between the 2 I would pick a guy who has a better chance of having a long career starting next year than a guy who has a good chance of not lasting 3 years.

Not sure, but a lot of people missed the fact that Jalen Ramsey had micro-fracture on his knee is High School. Even when successful, the new cartilage grown with micro-fracture is very thin and likely has limited durability for a Pro Athlete.

 

[Haimerej]

So is was 90% in general, but higher for Smith's type of injury...

That's how I read it. That's at a two year follow up though, so we may need to exercise patience. Then again, it could fire tomorrow.