Any suggestions for a trip to Philadelphia

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I don't think Laurie cares who's car it was or why it was on fire. So long as he's not liable - which he wouldn't be.

Laurie wants to sell tickets and all the tickets are not bought by Eagles fans. Owners want ticket sales and know that fans fear having their car burned to a crisp doesn't increase ticket sales.
Also corporate box holders use the luxury boxes to entertain clients (many out of towers). It's not good for business if this is what goes on in your establishment.
 

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Nice !! Doomsay, do you live in the Philly area ?

Not anymore (70's - 80's) - folks still do. Live in CT, hopefully, it's going to be a happy drive home Sunday night / Monday AM. Feeling lucky, just like we did at the Bears game on Thursday. Heck of a 10 days, still hoarse from Thursday.
 

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Phildadon, I was born and raised about a mile from Veteran's Stadium in South Philadelphia. I grew up there and have spent my entire life in the area. I have also visited cities all across the globe (my favorites outside of my hometown are Boston, San Fran, Savannah, Rome, Florence, and London). I can tell you that the attitude you arrive on the plane with will shade your entire experience of any city. One of the reasons why Philadelphia gets such a bad rap is because of the behavior of their sports fans (probably rightly so, although entirely undeserved when reflected on the city as a whole, in my opinion). It shades people's attitudes before they even have a chance to experience all that the city has to offer.

Philadelphia is not much different than any other major city - there are pockets of undesirable areas and people, as well as amazing cultural experiences. However, it is unique in that this entire experiment in freedom which we call America had its birthplace in this city. As a result, when you walk around the center of the city (called "Center City" strangely enough), you are surrounded by landmarks and reminders of where all this began. It is truly an enchanting environment if you are any type of history buff.

In addition to the suggestions already presented, you may want to take some time to visit the Constitution Center - it is a truly moving museum. You probably won't get a chance to visit Valley Forge National Park (a half hour drive from where you are staying), but it is also a really inspiring tour which leaves you in awe of how our Revolutionary Soldiers suffered through a horrendous winter on their way to the ultimate miraculous military victory.

Enough nostalgia. Down to brass tacks. You will be staying in my old neighborhood.

I know the tourist-y hype about the cheesesteak revolves around Pat's versus Geno's. If you really want to hit cheesesteak nirvana, either go to John's Roast Pork on Snyder Avenue near Columbus Avenue (I went to grade school with the owner - he consistently gets voted on as serving the top cheesesteak in the city) or Steaks on South, my personal favorite, especially if you plan on walking South Street (which still has a lot of cool, eclectic shops and restaurants, even though it is no longer one of the top hot spots in the city). John's is in South Philly (near your hotel) and Steaks on South is closer to Center City, but if you really want a one-of-a-kind sandwich that you will be dreaming of on the plane back to Canada (and you may even still have the intoxicating aroma lingering on your fingers), do yourself a favor and go to Nick's Roast Beef on 20th and Jackson Streets, about a mile from your hotel. It is a dive bar inhabited by hard core, blue collar locals, but nothing to fear - they are harmless, if not colorful. They have a Spartan dining room in the back of the bar. Sit down and order a Roast Beef Combo (combo means with provolone cheese), overboard (which means dripping with pan juices). It is served on a Kaiser roll, and is probably one of the best sandwiches I have ever eaten. Chicago brags about their "Italian Beef" sandwiches, but they cannot hold a candle to Nick's Roast Beef.

If you want Italian food, and want to stay in South Philly (near your hotel), take a quick ride to Scannicchio's at Broad and Porter Streets. It will give you a taste of authentic, Italian-American cuisine ... the kind the local neighbors grew up on since moving to the city from the old country back in the day. The menu is simple, but consistently good.

One last tip. If you do find yourself in Center City (which is LOADED with amazing, 5-star restaurants), and are walking through the Reading Terminal, or anywhere else in the area, if you want to get into the Christmas Spirit, stop into Macy's right near City Hall at Broad and Juniper Streets. They have a light show that is very nostalgic and will definitely bring a smile. It plays every hour (I think).

Despite the negative press in here, try to keep an open mind and positive attitude. Travel safely and enjoy the city where it all started.
 

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Also, once you get to the game, the location of your seats will drastically affect your experience at the game as a Cowboys fan. If you happen to be in the Club Level or any of the suites, there is a high degree of probability that you'll leave wondering what all the fuss was about.

On the other hand, the higher you sit in the general seating areas, the more you'll be exposed to the craziness.

Keep in mind that the tailgaters will have had plenty of time to "lube up" prior to the game. Many of the fans will have been drinking all afternoon, so keep your wits about you and avoid any outright confrontations. Then sit back and enjoy the spectacle!

Have a GREAT TIME and GO COWBOYS!
 

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Phildadon, I was born and raised about a mile from Veteran's Stadium in South Philadelphia. I grew up there and have spent my entire life in the area. I have also visited cities all across the globe (my favorites outside of my hometown are Boston, San Fran, Savannah, Rome, Florence, and London). I can tell you that the attitude you arrive on the plane with will shade your entire experience of any city. One of the reasons why Philadelphia gets such a bad rap is because of the behavior of their sports fans (probably rightly so, although entirely undeserved when reflected on the city as a whole, in my opinion). It shades people's attitudes before they even have a chance to experience all that the city has to offer.

Philadelphia is not much different than any other major city - there are pockets of undesirable areas and people, as well as amazing cultural experiences. However, it is unique in that this entire experiment in freedom which we call America had its birthplace in this city. As a result, when you walk around the center of the city (called "Center City" strangely enough), you are surrounded by landmarks and reminders of where all this began. It is truly an enchanting environment if you are any type of history buff.

In addition to the suggestions already presented, you may want to take some time to visit the Constitution Center - it is a truly moving museum. You probably won't get a chance to visit Valley Forge National Park (a half hour drive from where you are staying), but it is also a really inspiring tour which leaves you in awe of how our Revolutionary Soldiers suffered through a horrendous winter on their way to the ultimate miraculous military victory.

Enough nostalgia. Down to brass tacks. You will be staying in my old neighborhood.

I know the tourist-y hype about the cheesesteak revolves around Pat's versus Geno's. If you really want to hit cheesesteak nirvana, either go to John's Roast Pork on Snyder Avenue near Columbus Avenue (I went to grade school with the owner - he consistently gets voted on as serving the top cheesesteak in the city) or Steaks on South, my personal favorite, especially if you plan on walking South Street (which still has a lot of cool, eclectic shops and restaurants, even though it is no longer one of the top hot spots in the city). John's is in South Philly (near your hotel) and Steaks on South is closer to Center City, but if you really want a one-of-a-kind sandwich that you will be dreaming of on the plane back to Canada (and you may even still have the intoxicating aroma lingering on your fingers), do yourself a favor and go to Nick's Roast Beef on 20th and Jackson Streets, about a mile from your hotel. It is a dive bar inhabited by hard core, blue collar locals, but nothing to fear - they are harmless, if not colorful. They have a Spartan dining room in the back of the bar. Sit down and order a Roast Beef Combo (combo means with provolone cheese), overboard (which means dripping with pan juices). It is served on a Kaiser roll, and is probably one of the best sandwiches I have ever eaten. Chicago brags about their "Italian Beef" sandwiches, but they cannot hold a candle to Nick's Roast Beef.

If you want Italian food, and want to stay in South Philly (near your hotel), take a quick ride to Scannicchio's at Broad and Porter Streets. It will give you a taste of authentic, Italian-American cuisine ... the kind the local neighbors grew up on since moving to the city from the old country back in the day. The menu is simple, but consistently good.

One last tip. If you do find yourself in Center City (which is LOADED with amazing, 5-star restaurants), and are walking through the Reading Terminal, or anywhere else in the area, if you want to get into the Christmas Spirit, stop into Macy's right near City Hall at Broad and Juniper Streets. They have a light show that is very nostalgic and will definitely bring a smile. It plays every hour (I think).

Despite the negative press in here, try to keep an open mind and positive attitude. Travel safely and enjoy the city where it all started.

THAT......was awesome. Great post.
 
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I think Philadelphia would be the last place I'd want to go see a Cowboys game:confused:

First and only Cowboys game I went to in Philthy was the one they drove an ambulance onto the field because they thought Michael Irvin had been paralyzed and the fans cheered (in a bad way)...
 

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Fortunately, nothing happened to me or anybody I was traveling with. It was more of the overall environment or experience created by other fans. Mother nature was looking out for us I guess. Let me explain. The weather was nasty; cold, rainy, windy so we were all bundled up in winter coats and had none of our Cowboys colors easily visibly. It took about 2 secs once we got to our seats to be thankful of that. First, there was a Cowboys fan a dozen or so rows behind us that was being a little mouthy. He almost got tossed down the stairs and security had to come separate the groups. Throughout the game, I heard various things about Troy Aikman's sexual orientation, etc which was probably pretty typical back then. I also heard Philly fans boo when one their own players was injured followed by screams to drag him off the field in whatever condition he was in so the game could continue. After the game, which Philly came from behind to win, we had to dodge fist fights between Philly fans to get the hell out of there as fast as possible.

I have also heard stories from friends whom I trust where opposing fans were peed on in the men's restrooms.

For reference, I have also been to several Cowboys-Commanders games in Washington, and a playoff game against Carolina in Carolina some years ago. At each, I was subjected to what I would call typical heckling by Commander and Panther fans but never once did I feel truly unsafe as I did in Philly.

I will not willingly return to the City of Brotherly Shove.

I've heard similar stories about going to games in Philadelphia as yours.

I've been to 4 games in Washington and a game in Carolina. The game in Charlotte was great. We won and the fans are more the wine and cheese type there. In Washington, my brother had a beer spiked off of his jersey and it got all over me. Other than that it wasn't that bad.
 

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Hey guys, as a lot of you know im heading to the game on Sunday from Toronto. Anything in particular anyone here would recommend seeing or doing in the city of Brotherly Love?

Stay home and watch the game in the comfort of your livingroom.
 

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Do not wear any cowboy gear unless you are going with a lot of people. Youtube Philly fans and you will see what I mean. Worst fans in the NFL. Good luck.
 

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Hey guys, as a lot of you know im heading to the game on Sunday from Toronto. Anything in particular anyone here would recommend seeing or doing in the city of Brotherly Love?

Don't listen to some of the folks on here, Philadelphia is a beautiful city. I would definitely take a bus tour, great way to see a lot of the historical sites, especially when you have limited time. Chestnut Hill is one of the most beautiful residential areas I've ever seen. Obviously, with a city of this size, you can find a ton a great restaurants too.
 

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Wear a bulletproof vest. Philadelphia is a cesspool of a city, very few redeeming qualities. 3rd world status.

Jesus, you make it sound like Detroit. Have you ever actually been there? It's only one of the most historical cities in the country, but yeah no redeeming qualities. :cool:
 

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Keep your Cowboys' apparel at home and maintain a low-key approach at the game. Provoking undue attention at the game could easily turn into an unpleasant experience. Most of their fans should be OK but there's always the exceptions to be found in attendance.
 

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Philly is one of my favorite cities in this country. If there's a thing I generally dislike about Philly it is the weather. There's a lot of things to see and a lot of really cool, old architecture still in place. Fantastic places to eat and to me, Philly is one of the last real American cities left. If you're used to and prefer the strip malls and new buildings (that's perfectly within your right), then Philly isn't the place for you. I agree fully with bulletbob, a lot of the reputation for Philly comes from their sports fans behavior. But as a whole, Philly is a great American city. I would much rather go there than to go to Houston or Phoenix or even Manhattan (these days).





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Jesus, you make it sound like Detroit. Have you ever actually been there? It's only one of the most historical cities in the country, but yeah no redeeming qualities. :cool:

Reading comprehension? A said very few. The current people/residents not being one of them. Baghdad is a historical city as well...
 

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You could go see the Liberty Bell and Independence Hall but you being a Canadian, you probably hate the history of our country.

I don't know. Maybe just start peppering your face with jabs and douse yourself with some beer to get ready for the game.

The first time I saw the Liberty bell I was massively disappointed.

Check out South St, if you are into the late night scene.
 
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