Any suggestions on QB Coach for Romo?

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Oh hell with it...HOW ABOUT ME...think about...we drink together, could get back with Kruczek's daughter...and we are set!!! It's gotta be me!!!!
 

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Where's Ryan Leaf? He could probably use a job right about now. :eek:
 

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malone1970;2695591 said:
Lets see Troy Aikman that is if he is willing to.... Or maybe recently retired Brett Favre since there styles pretty much mirror each other... thats just my opinion

Nah, Aikman is rather busy these days. Besides, you'd have to get a crow bar to pry Aikman's mouth off Portis's tally.
 

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odog422;2695452 said:
Parcells always said Romo still needed coaching through the entire game and I think his regression last year was, in large part, due to the fact that did not occur. Did anybody ever see Wade on the sideline during a game? After a pick? All I ever saw was Romo alone looking morose.

What games were you watching? I saw countless times where Romo was on the sidelines looking at game-photo with Jason Garrett after INTs and busted plays. It was a constant staple last year. The fact is, Garrett was over his head because none of the issues were rectified.

Further, why does Wade have to do the job that is suppose to be Garrett's? Was Garrett made the highest paid OC in the league as well as Assistant head Coach?
 

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khiladi;2695510 said:
odog422;2695452 said:
Parcells always said Romo still needed coaching through the entire game and I think his regression last year was, in large part, due to the fact that did not occur. Did anybody ever see Wade on the sideline during a game? After a pick? All I ever saw was Romo alone looking morose.
I'm pretty sure Wade is upstairs.
 

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khiladi;2695510 said:
Parcells always said Romo still needed coaching through the entire game and I think his regression last year was, in large part, due to the fact that did not occur. Did anybody ever see Wade on the sideline during a game? After a pick? All I ever saw was Romo alone looking morose.

We don't agree much, but here we do. I think the lack of a strong authority figure on top of Romo has hurt him big time. Or more to the point it has enabled him to express his "Inner Favre."

Wade's "Aw shucks, we'll get 'em next time" attitude is not doing Tony any favors. And Garrett has not stepped into the void.

All that said, 10 QB coaches will not be worth what improved O-Line play will be next year. It really was just that bad, and Romo made 95% of his truly bonehead plays when everything had broken down completely. Not to mention the fumbles.
 

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wileedog;2696237 said:
We don't agree much, but here we do. I think the lack of a strong authority figure on top of Romo has hurt him big time. Or more to the point it has enabled him to express his "Inner Favre."

Wade's "Aw shucks, we'll get 'em next time" attitude is not doing Tony any favors. And Garrett has not stepped into the void.

All that said, 10 QB coaches will not be worth what improved O-Line play will be next year. It really was just that bad, and Romo made 95% of his truly bonehead plays when everything had broken down completely. Not to mention the fumbles.

Actually, you still don't agree with khiladi, wilee. That's my quote you quoted. Khiladi disagreed and asked what games was I watching....etc.

Absolutely agree with you about protection though. But at the same time, Romo bears the responsibility of protecting the football and especially with the fumbles. That's just not recognizing he has to cover the ball up once he leaves the pocket.
 

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khiladi;2696205 said:
What games were you watching? I saw countless times where Romo was on the sidelines looking at game-photo with Jason Garrett after INTs and busted plays. It was a constant staple last year. The fact is, Garrett was over his head because none of the issues were rectified.

Further, why does Wade have to do the job that is suppose to be Garrett's? Was Garrett made the highest paid OC in the league as well as Assistant head Coach?

My question was where was Wade, not Garrett. He is the Quarterback Coach. That aside, I certainly didn't see Garrett getting into Romo when after the INTs, etc.

As you said, Garrett is the OC. Wade is the Quarterback Coach. Garrett controls and oversees the entire offense, which includes the quarterback, and Wade has a very specific responsibility to coach the QB.

That's why the thread is about the Quarterback Coach.
 

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Danny White.

Pure mechanism bordering on genius. But he had bad luck in critical games.

He'd be perfect for Romo in all aspects of the mechanics of throwing the ball.
 

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odog422;2696245 said:
Actually, you still don't agree with khiladi, wilee. That's my quote you quoted. Khiladi disagreed and asked what games was I watching....etc.

Absolutely agree with you about protection though. But at the same time, Romo bears the responsibility of protecting the football and especially with the fumbles. That's just not recognizing he has to cover the ball up once he leaves the pocket.

Heh, thanks for the clarification. Couldn't tell with the formatting.

And no, I'm not excusing him from his careless ways with the football, and I fully agree he needs to protect it better even when the protection breaks down.

And that's why I think he needs a coach who will hold his feet to the fire, not one who will basically take the blame for him after the game.
 

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wileedog;2696262 said:
Heh, thanks for the clarification. Couldn't tell with the formatting.

And no, I'm not excusing him from his careless ways with the football, and I fully agree he needs to protect it better even when the protection breaks down.

And that's why I think he needs a coach who will hold his feet to the fire, not one who will basically take the blame for him after the game.

Agreed. Whatever you may think of Parcells, I loved the way he handled Romo. He made no bones about the fact he was a work in progress, that he was making decisions and taking chances that could come back and burn him. I'm sure he told him to his face, and he put it out there in the press, so Romo got it coming and going.

It was a good way to keep the pressure on Romo to not just succumb totally to the gunslinger mentality. Not to mention the earful he would get after one of those type plays where it resulted in a turnover.

Does anyone really think Romo would've described an INT as "like a punt" while under Parcells' tutelage? That comment was to me the biggest indictment of the casual attitude that's been given towards what's passing for coaching of Romo.
 

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John Kitna!

Garrett wanted him here to back up Romo, and as a backup QB himself, Garrett was often referred to as a player-coach for Aikman. So I can easily see Garrett bringing Kitna into Dallas, partly to be the same for Romo.
 

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Silverstar;2695496 said:
I doubt there will be any more coaching changes. I don't think Romo regressed last year...he just got injured and missed 3 games. As a result, we lost to the Rams in his absence and finished 9-7 instead of 10-6.

That's how I choose to look at the 2008 season....and why not?

Finally, some common sense.

That being said, if a move was made, Testaverde would be choice# 1.
 

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odog422;2696252 said:
My question was where was Wade, not Garrett. He is the Quarterback Coach. That aside, I certainly didn't see Garrett getting into Romo when after the INTs, etc.

As you said, Garrett is the OC. Wade is the Quarterback Coach. Garrett controls and oversees the entire offense, which includes the quarterback, and Wade has a very specific responsibility to coach the QB.



That's why the thread is about the Quarterback Coach.
What exactly is a QB coach going to do on game-day? A QB coach deals primarily with mechanics, which is not relevant to the game-day play. The OC on the other hand has to deal with analyzing the plays and the particular options of a QB, dealing heavily with the QB. Garrett was constantly by his side 'dissecting' plays with Romo. You could see it every game, over and over again.The deterioration in play of Romo wasn't about his QB coach. He was the QB coach in 2007 as well, when Romo had his best year ever. You wanna talk QB coach, look at Garrett's track-record. It is just 'as bad' as Wade's.
 

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Part of Parcell 'getting on Romo' was to be conservative on offense, not relying on the big-play all the time, which is the philosophy of Garrett. It wasn't simply 'getting on' Romo, it was about strategizing offensively to reduce turnovers and carelessness with the ball. You can't construe 'getting on' Romo with simply yelling at him when he commits a TO. Even Wade Phillips stated that the running game needs to be establishing to reign the QB in. The problem with Parcells is that he was way too conservative and the problem with Garrett is he is way on the other end. They both are essentiall predictable, but with a running game, Parcells could slow down the pace.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;2696307 said:
John Kitna!


Garrett wanted him here to back up Romo, and as a backup QB himself, Garrett was often referred to as a player-coach for Aikman. So I can easily see Garrett bringing Kitna into Dallas, partly to be the same for Romo.
Kitna is as much an INT machine, even more, than Romo. He also holds on to the ball way too long. What exactly is he going to teach Romo? It isn't as if Brad Johnson didn't have more experience than Kitna, and could provide his wealth of experience to Romo. The issue isn't about mechanics, it is about establishing rhythm and tempo on this offense, which is sorely lacking.
 
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