Any suggestions on QB Coach for Romo?

[CowboyManDan]

I would Like to see us get Palmer back. Eli Manning really improved when he went to the Giants and he was here the year Romo made the jump to starter.

Agreed...Palmer is a great QB coach. Possibly wouldn't be interested here for a 2nd go round? Don't know.

 

[jobberone]

Romo said all the right things in terms of how he worked on his mechanics last year. Especially citing that he studied Brady's pocket presence etc.

However Brady is a tall, big armed, can make every throw QB with surgical accuracy.

Romo is a more mobile QB, excelling on shorter to intermediate throws - and should work on getting rid of the football when its not there. Because those great plays that we all know and love, 1 in every 4 times he gets 'cute' - he turns the ball over.

We need a coach that can help him understand how bad turnovers hurt the team, and that sometimes 'punting' on 2nd down isn't a great idea.

Throwing the ball is not Romo's problem. Oh, he could use some help with his mechanics. I think he tried to play hurt and got his mechanics screwed up and never was completely well even to the end.

But he needs to manage the game better and a big part of that is on Jason Garrett and the OL. If you ask a QB to win every week for you in this league you are going to be sorry. There isn't a QB alive that can do that. There's only been a few to ever play who can. Maybe less than a few. If Garrett can't get a running game going with those RBs and that OL then he should be fired. PERIOD. I think he will.

And in this league you must pass to be able to run every week. Few teams could ever line up and run it down your throat and win consistently. Not every week. It happens and those teams are the great ones if they have a QB as well.

If Romo works on his mechanics some and works on his game management including protecting the ball we will be in the hunt. Wade Wilson is not blocking, fumbling or throwing INTs. Tony does that well enough without help. And no one who stays in this league for over 20 years is garbage. Don't know him but he was an ok QB and has coached some great offenses.

The players on this team need to be held more accountable than the coaches.

 

[theebs]

I would Like to see us get Palmer back. Eli Manning really improved when he went to the Giants and he was here the year Romo made the jump to starter.

I have to agree that Wilson is a waste of space on our coaching staff. He must have some pics of Jerry in a compromising position or something cause he is one of Jerry's pets.

Chris palmer is a terrific qb coach.

People forget that he was the qb coach in 06 and lee was demoted to offensive quality control in 06.

and for fun, its probably not a coincidence that romos best game in december came against the giants and during pregame warmups he had like a 15 minute converstation with palmer!!!!! THey were right in front of me.

 

[Biggems]

Warren Moon would be a great coach for Romo

so he can teach him how to beat the snot out of Jessica and keep it covered up, while maintaining a squeaky clean family man image to the entire nation?

 

[Biggems]

How about the Italian Stallion Vinnie Testaverde?

 

[jimmy40]

Wade Wilson is garbage and I do not know why he is still employed here.

Garrett, will have his hands full trying to scheme up, playcall and remember the basics, i.e, run game. For the record, I think he will do well.

But I'm of the strong opinion that Romo needs somebody who will stay on him about his mechanics, about getting rid of the ball, and being safe and smart with the ball. Someone who can get in his &*% and chew him out if need be.

Parcells always said Romo still needed coaching through the entire game and I think his regression last year was, in large part, due to the fact that did not occur. Did anybody ever see Wade on the sideline during a game? After a pick? All I ever saw was Romo alone looking morose.

So who could this new coach be? Anybody have any ideas, knowledge or insight as to possibles? Hopefully, in keeping with his mandate to make this offense "Romo-friendly" Jerry will ask himself "What has Wade (Wilson) done?" and make a move.

How about a little better protection, no hurt hand and no hurt ribs?

 

[Alexander]

so he can teach him how to beat the snot out of Jessica and keep it covered up, while maintaining a squeaky clean family man image to the entire nation?

Don't forget the crowd pleasing DUI arrest. That's always a good thing.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Jake Plummer.

 

[khiladi]

And you oversimplify and dismiss what is relevant.

First, this thread was about the QB coach, yet you are attempting to hijack it into a thread about Garrett. It's clear that you think a QB coach is pretty much meaningless as you have stated repeatedly the only thing he works with on the QB is mechanics. Ok, so you don't think we need to make a change. Fine.

However, you ignore the basic on-the-field evidence of Romo's regression. And Garret's responsibilities go beyond just the QB position. The bulk of the work for everyone is during the week and this is where the QB coach becomes critical. This would cover mechanics, looks, reads and the like for basic play as well as the gameplan for the week.

Romo's mistakes are the same. There was chatter about his practice habits. This is the job of the QB coach to address these issues. He is the one responsible and charged for ironing out the flaws, not the offensive coordinator. As mentioned, you never hear Romo mention Wade with the reverence, or at all, for that matter, that he did David Lee.

And we see the results.

Hijack? Huh? I simply stated the idea that Wade Wilson is at fault is absurd. The QBs coach deals primarily with mechanics, and mechanics was not an issue with Romo this year. I didn't ignore Romo's regression either. I stated that Jason Garrett is the reason for the regression of Romo and rightfully so. Romo's problems were forcing the ball downfield and part of that was because of the fact we didn't have a running game. The offense put too much pressure on Romo to get it done by himself.

It is an oversimplication to argue Wade Wilson was to blame, when th every things he teaches isn't going to be much different from 2007 to 2008. The coaching extends primarily to mechanics. The fault of Romo wasn't his mechanics.

 

[khiladi]

I don't see much structurally that changed in the offense from 2007-2008 other than the offensive line blocked poorly/was a poor fit and Romo's failed Brady impression. What changed was a lack of discipline overall (Sparano) and some very poor schematic fits in terms of blocking. I would blame Houck just as much as Wilson, but that's another story. Garrett has had his hands in the 2007 offense and 2008. You defend Wilson saying he was here in 2007, but I can counter so was Garrett.
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I said Wade was here in 2007, because you said Garrett was here. I countered your argument. Further, I stated that teams figured Garrett's passing game out, which you have just corraborated by saying nothing much changed between 2007 and 2008, saying nothing much changed structurally. Garrett never adjusted.

Further, Romo wasn't doing much of a Brady impression because the OL wasn't blocking, and that too primarily because of Garrett's game-planning. The refusal to create a systematic rushing attack with 300 plus OL'me, coupled by the fact the guy had no short passing game and refused to use boot-legs and roll-outs with a QB with amazing legs spelled doom for this offense. You had people like Davis oving ackwards all day trying to pass protect instead of moving forward. Houck doesn't choose the gam-planning as well. Considering Houck's career track-record, even at Miami, showed he made RBs average close to five yards a carry is a stigma on Garrett, not Houck. Romo had to run for his life to keep the plays alive while his WRs were running down-field. As if running for your life won't 'affect' your mechanics.

Brady could sit back in the pocket all day, because they had an amazing short passing game with Wes alker, which kept the LB off the QB. To argue that the Brady impression created an issue with the offense is absurd.

 

[khiladi]

Please remember you are defending the QB coach who couldn't work the foolishness out of Quincy Carter or Rex Grossman and has not a single success story to his credit. That is the issue here. Not the mechanics, which isn't all of what a QB coach is responsible for.

ANd please remember that Jason Garrett's only stint at QB coach was at Miami, with the likes of Gus Frerotte and Joey Harrington. he had Gus his first year and there wasn't much he could teach a 40 year old who played in the league for over 15 years. Miami had horrible QB play during his tenure.

 

[odog422]

Hijack? Huh? I simply stated the idea that Wade Wilson is at fault is absurd. The QBs coach deals primarily with mechanics, and mechanics was not an issue with Romo this year.

Is not where you choose to hold the ball as you move about the pocket something that fall under mechanics? Two hands instead of one perhaps? And how can you say mechanics were not an issue? Are you a QB coach? Before you go there, I don't have to argue his mechanics were flawed because that's not what I said or have even broached in this thread. I'm saying Romo needs help and direction - in other words, coaching - and I'm not seeing that he's getting it. You admit the QB coach deals primarily with mechanics -- so what about the rest? Is that not important? Absolving Wade is what is absurd as he is the position coach.

I didn't ignore Romo's regression either. I stated that Jason Garrett is the reason for the regression of Romo and rightfully so. Romo's problems were forcing the ball downfield and part of that was because of the fact we didn't have a running game.

So who is responsible for coaching him to throw the ball away? Are you saying there are no checkdowns, not even to the backs in this offense? You cannot simply dismiss Romo's poor play as a direct result of this offense. Aikman didn't and I'll trust what he is seeing at the game in the booth, with a view of the entire field, and as a HOF QB over yours.

It is an oversimplication to argue Wade Wilson was to blame, when th every things he teaches isn't going to be much different from 2007 to 2008. The coaching extends primarily to mechanics. The fault of Romo wasn't his mechanics.[/QUOTE]

See above.

 

[peplaw06]

Khiladi blaming Garrett? Say it ain't so!!!!

Quick Khiladi... tell us about the hurry up offense... LOL

 

[khiladi]

Is not where you choose to hold the ball as you move about the pocket something that fall under mechanics? Two hands instead of one perhaps? And how can you say mechanics were not an issue? Are you a QB coach? Before you go there, I don't have to argue his mechanics were flawed because that's not what I said or have even broached in this thread. I'm saying Romo needs help and direction - in other words, coaching - and I'm not seeing that he's getting it. You admit the QB coach deals primarily with mechanics -- so what about the rest? Is that not important? Absolving Wade is what is absurd as he is the position coach.

I didn't ignore Romo's regression either. I stated that Jason Garrett is the reason for the regression of Romo and rightfully so. Romo's problems were forcing the ball downfield and part of that was because of the fact we didn't have a running game.


So who is responsible for coaching him to throw the ball away? Are you saying there are no checkdowns, not even to the backs in this offense? You cannot simply dismiss Romo's poor play as a direct result of this offense. Aikman didn't and I'll trust what he is seeing at the game in the booth, with a view of the entire field, and as a HOF QB over yours

Who is to say Romo wasn't going to his check-downs? Barber had 57 receptions in 2008, for 417 yards. That is 50 percent of what he gained rushing. And you claim that Romo wasn't looking at his options? The whole first half of the season, Garrett was consistently calling plays downfield, with Romo checking it down to Barber. How was Romo not looking at other options?Further, these check-downs came many a time on 3rd and long. It wasn't as if the options Romo had to go to were systematic ways of attacking a defense, but more of a route when none of the receivers were open because of Garrett's predictability. That is why only 16 of those yards resulted in a first down, despite Barber averaging 8.1 YAC. Teams were giving that check-down.The fact is, the defenses knew exactly what was coming. Romo was looking downfield because the game-plan called for Romo to look down-field. Romo was forcing the ball, because the team lacked any consistent approach to attacking the defense and Romo had to make plays, without any help from his OC.Further, Aikman never once castigated Jason Garrett the whole season, but other HoF players, like Marshall Faulk did. Ed Reed as well, and so did Ray Lewis. And they know defenses. And the other HoF receiver, TO did, supported by Roy Williams. They even brought in Dan Reeves to baby-sit him. So while Aikman may have his opinions, he also wanted Norv Turner as the coach and Jason Garrett is his boy.

 

[khiladi]

One more point... Romo has been holding the ball with one hand in 2007 as well, when he was playing ridiculous. Romo forcing the ball is something he did in 2007. The idea that Wade is that big of a problem is absurd. It was Garrett's offense which magnified the tendencies of Romo in 2008. When you refuse to run and have your QB look downfield all the time, you put too much pressure on the QB to make plays. When you refuse to adopt a short-passing game, you don't allow your QB to get into a rhythm and tempo, magnifying certain flaws a QB already had. It is the responsibility of the OC to put the QB in a position to make plays. Look at Alex Smith and Norv Turner.

 

[jobberone]

Life is generally not all or nothing choices and decisions. Most of the world is not black or white or one color.

It's not difficult to take a step or few back and restart your journey.

Everyone needs to reevaluate last year and get back to doing what works.