Anyone else excited about the Boys lately?

HoosierCowboy

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We have a new defensive coach,added some other key coaches maybe a new play caller, we've cut some players who were holding us back, we have injured players on the mend, we will add some rookies and some FAs to an 8-8 team that was very close to the playoffs---what's not to be excited about.
 

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HoosierCowboy;5020381 said:
We have a new defensive coach,added some other key coaches maybe a new play caller, we've cut some players who were holding us back, we have injured players on the mend, we will add some rookies and some FAs to an 8-8 team that was very close to the playoffs---what's not to be excited about.

it's an 8-8 team. there's a lot to be excited about, but there's just as much to be worried about.
 

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HoosierCowboy;5020381 said:
We have a new defensive coach,added some other key coaches maybe a new play caller, we've cut some players who were holding us back, we have injured players on the mend, we will add some rookies and some FAs to an 8-8 team that was very close to the playoffs---what's not to be excited about.

yeah but would be alot more excited if we had some cap room so we could do something today . :)
 

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HoosierCowboy;5020381 said:
We have a new defensive coach,added some other key coaches maybe a new play caller, we've cut some players who were holding us back, we have injured players on the mend, we will add some rookies and some FAs to an 8-8 team that was very close to the playoffs---what's not to be excited about.

I think if we can stay relatively healthy this year and have a solid draft, we can make the playoffs this year.

All I really want from FA this year is to add some decent depth where ever possible.
 

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Over the years, I've found that being cautiously optimistic is a better approach than being excited (at least when it comes to this team).
 

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Yes, I'm excited because I'm looking at how the roster is being built objectively.

Year 1 of Garrett's tenure was all about clearing out the dead money and players from the past 2 failed regimes.

Year 2 - 2012 - was about rebuilding the defensive roster - mainly in the secondary and at LB -, and this year will be about shoring up the DL and OL.

And throughout Garrett's tenure the drafts have Ben fantastic. And right now the veterans being extended are the ones that fit I to the current plan (unlike the dead weight free agents Garrett took a dead money hit on that never fit into any plan).

And finally, the improvements among the coaching ranks have been tramendous too - all of whom WANTED to coach under Garrett.

Yes, there's everything to be excited about moving forward.
 

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I intentionally wrote this to give the glass-half-empty fans a chance to drag it down into despair--I'm still excited: we could have as many as 7 or 8 new starters from the team we fielded at the end of last year.
 

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I'm excited about the season ahead of them but I do think this is a cross road season for some on this team including Garrett. I think this team has to win and they have to do something in post season or else major changes will take place. I don't see jerry sitting still with 3 season in a row of no post season.

Pressure is on and the time in now.
 

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I wish I shared your optimism. There won't be any FA additions that will be exciting. There's no cap space. So check that off your list. The draft is a crapshoot, and the Boys's history of drafts is mediocre at best.

There are too many teams in the NFC that are much more talented and/or younger than Dallas.

Let's say Dallas gets a FA or two that become starters, and have a draft where they get solid contributions from 3-4 players; does that make them better than SF? Seattle? ATL? Or even Wash?

Their current talent base is old, unproven or has health-concerns. Romo, Witten, Ware, Ratliff, and Austin are all on the downside of their careers. Murray misses almost as many games as he plays. Lee misses too many games. Carter has a checkered injury history.

So the young, talented (pro-bowl caliber) and healthy players consist of Tyrone Smith, Dez Bryant and Brandon Carr (Claiborne doesn't belong in that category yet, but there's hope). A LT, a WR and a CB. Good building blocks, but where' the DL? Teams that win have outstanding OL and DL, and Jerry Jones consistently ignores this or gives it lower priority than he does acquiring flashy perimeter players. Jones isn't alone in this regard, but he's not good at drafting or thinking about long-term ways to build a consistent winner like Pitt, NE, ATL.

There's no way this team contends for anything meaningful next year short of a miracle "get hot and lucky in the playoffs" type season. And I don't see them beating out Wash or NYG in the East to even make the playoffs in the first place. And certainly won't be as good as GB, NO, or the NFC West Runner Up in order to make a Wild Card.

8-8 is about as good as it can get next year.
 

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Yes, I am excited. We have a franchise quaterback, a roster of solid vets mixed with young cornerstones, and solid drafting the last three years. And I understand why people may be more pessimistic than I.

But I will say this -- if you condemn others for being excited about the Cowboys, you are not a true fan.
 

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HoosierCowboy;5020381 said:
We have a new defensive coach,added some other key coaches maybe a new play caller, we've cut some players who were holding us back, we have injured players on the mend, we will add some rookies and some FAs to an 8-8 team that was very close to the playoffs---what's not to be excited about.
Well for one, we still have Jerry as our leader--ugh, and second we have Jason back as our HC. That is enough to derail any good things we might have, seriously.
 

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EGTuna;5020402 said:
I wish I shared your optimism. There won't be any FA additions that will be exciting. There's no cap space. So check that off your list. The draft is a crapshoot, and the Boys's history of drafts is mediocre at best.

There are too many teams in the NFC that are much more talented and/or younger than Dallas.

Let's say Dallas gets a FA or two that become starters, and have a draft where they get solid contributions from 3-4 players; does that make them better than SF? Seattle? ATL? Or even Wash?

Their current talent base is old, unproven or has health-concerns. Romo, Witten, Ware, Ratliff, and Austin are all on the downside of their careers. Murray misses almost as many games as he plays. Lee misses too many games. Carter has a checkered injury history.

So the young, talented (pro-bowl caliber) and healthy players consist of Tyrone Smith, Dez Bryant and Brandon Carr (Claiborne doesn't belong in that category yet, but there's hope). A LT, a WR and a CB. Good building blocks, but where' the DL? Teams that win have outstanding OL and DL, and Jerry Jones consistently ignores this or gives it lower priority than he does acquiring flashy perimeter players. Jones isn't alone in this regard, but he's not good at drafting or thinking about long-term ways to build a consistent winner like Pitt, NE, ATL.

There's no way this team contends for anything meaningful next year short of a miracle "get hot and lucky in the playoffs" type season. And I don't see them beating out Wash or NYG in the East to even make the playoffs in the first place. And certainly won't be as good as GB, NO, or the NFC West Runner Up in order to make a Wild Card.

8-8 is about as good as it can get next year.

You do realize that when we extend Romo and Spencer, that will create between $15-18mm in cap space, right?

That's NOT to say we will spend that in FA, but the space will be there.
 

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TheRomoSexual;5020404 said:
Yes, I am excited. We have a franchise quaterback, a roster of solid vets mixed with young cornerstones, and solid drafting the last three years. And I understand why people may be more pessimistic than I.

But I will say this -- if you condemn others for being excited about the Cowboys, you are not a true fan.

I wouldn't say that. Everyone here is a fan. It's just that misery loves company.
 

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You do realize that when we extend Romo and Spencer, that will create between $15-18mm in cap space, right?

That's NOT to say we will spend that in FA, but the space will be there.

Maybe 'm in the minority but i rather bite the bullet now and not resign or extend these players.. Especially Spencer.. I just have a feeling that even the homers are going to be complaining about the dead money and bad contracts in a few years..
 

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HoosierCowboy;5020393 said:
I intentionally wrote this to give the glass-half-empty fans a chance to drag it down into despair--I'm still excited: we could have as many as 7 or 8 new starters from the team we fielded at the end of last year.

It's this type of baiting to get a reaction from another fan, just for your amusement, that makes me question whether you are a real fan or a casual fan.
 

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EGTuna;5020402 said:
I wish I shared your optimism. There won't be any FA additions that will be exciting. There's no cap space. So check that off your list. The draft is a crapshoot, and the Boys's history of drafts is mediocre at best.

There are too many teams in the NFC that are much more talented and/or younger than Dallas.

Let's say Dallas gets a FA or two that become starters, and have a draft where they get solid contributions from 3-4 players; does that make them better than SF? Seattle? ATL? Or even Wash?

Their current talent base is old, unproven or has health-concerns. Romo, Witten, Ware, Ratliff, and Austin are all on the downside of their careers. Murray misses almost as many games as he plays. Lee misses too many games. Carter has a checkered injury history.

So the young, talented (pro-bowl caliber) and healthy players consist of Tyrone Smith, Dez Bryant and Brandon Carr (Claiborne doesn't belong in that category yet, but there's hope). A LT, a WR and a CB. Good building blocks, but where' the DL? Teams that win have outstanding OL and DL, and Jerry Jones consistently ignores this or gives it lower priority than he does acquiring flashy perimeter players. Jones isn't alone in this regard, but he's not good at drafting or thinking about long-term ways to build a consistent winner like Pitt, NE, ATL.

There's no way this team contends for anything meaningful next year short of a miracle "get hot and lucky in the playoffs" type season. And I don't see them beating out Wash or NYG in the East to even make the playoffs in the first place. And certainly won't be as good as GB, NO, or the NFC West Runner Up in order to make a Wild Card.

8-8 is about as good as it can get next year.

This is EXACTLY how I feel. ^^ You saved me a lot of typing.
 

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CIWhitefish;5020411 said:
I wouldn't say that. Everyone here is a fan. It's just that misery loves company.

I'm not talking about the "miserable" fan. I'm referring to the miserable fan who bashes others for not being miserable.
 

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Vinnie2u;5020416 said:
Maybe 'm in the minority but i rather bite the bullet now and not resign or extend these players.. Especially Spencer.. I just have a feeling that even the homers are going to be complaining about the dead money and bad contracts in a few years..

I have to say, looking at things today, I can't disagree with the guys that have been so far cut and/or not given a tender to or tried to extend.

Guys like Connor, Ogletree (not invited back), Sensy (a bit surprising, but he made very, very few impact plays). F Jones also likely gone.

Even guys that I don't think that highly off, McCray and Costa, either have no guaranteed money (so they can be cut easily) or very little guaranteed money. So I can't really complain about that.

Spencer, at least he has produced. Next, we need to look at the contract he gets.

The only other guy who I think needs to be either cut or have his compensation seriously reduced is Free. And I think that will happen before June.

So far, I generally agree with the personnel decisions that are being made.
 

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TwoDeep3;5020420 said:
It's this type of baiting to get a reaction from another fan, just for your amusement, that makes me question whether you are a real fan or a casual fan.
This happened before in a Romo thread, and the board went ballistic for about a week. HA! I gotta say it was one of the better threads on here in a while but it was clearly written to incite the crowd and when it did the OP got mad at all the people that didn't agree with him.
 
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