Anyone else excited about the Boys lately?

[Fletch]

yes, that would be back in the days when fans were ridiculed unmercifully for taking a position that was contrary to the accepted board posture on any given subject.

I can see how diversity would be uncomfortable for some, Fletch.

I wouldn't think diversity is the problem. It's the language being put forth.

 

[EGTuna]

i just don't have a loser's mentality so i refuse to just assume everyone with more cap space or with the ability to sign the big shiny new free agent is going to be better. we competed at a high level despite multiple injuries last season. if we can stay healthy, and add a few key pieces through the draft i believe we're in great shape.

you have to have that same approach in life. ACT AS IF.....!!!!!!!

I'm in sales so i believe this whole heartedly. "ACT AS IF you are the president of this firm"
"ACT AS IF you have a......" ; )

That's fine and dandy. SEA and SF and ATL don't have to sign shiny new free agents to be better than Dallas. They were better (significantly so) last season.

Too many fans over-rate the talent of their favorite team (not exclusively a Cowboys fan trait), and the Cowboys are the most extreme example of this due to the nature and exposure of their coverage.

The bottom line is that the majority of the core of this team is aging or has a history of injuries, and most of them are not trenches guys anyways. That core has accomplished diddly squat. 1 playoff win. 2 seasons of 10+ wins. That's not getting it done, but since the team stays heavily covered and heavily exposed, Jerry Jones is satisfied with the cashflows. Yet, he still publicly says he wants credit when the Boys win another Super Bowl. He's the problem, and he's not going away.

 

[DoomsDayD]

If 7-9 is something to get excited about then I'm in.

I couldnt agree more!!!! You didnt get the memo,this team is up and coming. A few more years for romo at the helm and he just might get us there. Lets see how many are excited after today when all the Good FA's are scooped up and we are left with junk. Someone should save this entire thread and bring it back out after next season.

 

[DFWJC]

I couldnt agree more!!!! You didnt get the memo,this team is up and coming. A few more years for romo at the helm and he just might get us there. Lets see how many are excited after today when all the Good FA's are scooped up and we are left with junk. Someone should save this entire thread and bring it back out after next season.

So we can assume that 7-9 is your call for the 2013 season?

 

[Fletch]

I couldnt agree more!!!! You didnt get the memo,this team is up and coming. A few more years for romo at the helm and he just might get us there. Lets see how many are excited after today when all the Good FA's are scooped up and we are left with junk. Someone should save this entire thread and bring it back out after next season.

So you win through FA? Guess the Dream Team Iggles didn't get that memo.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Always. Tomorrow is another day.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

I'm always excited and optimistic for the Cowboys but sitting on the sidelines and watching FA take place w/o us sure is frustrating/ I hope we extend Romo, redo Spencer and either redo or cut Free pronto so we can partake in the festivities!!!

 

[DoomsDayD]

I'm always excited and optimistic for the Cowboys but sitting on the sidelines and watching FA take place w/o us sure is frustrating/ I hope we extend Romo, redo Spencer and either redo or cut Free pronto so we can partake in the festivities!!!

You didnt get the memo SUNBUM..according to FLETCH FA's dont matter. After all,our drafts have been spot on,our record these past 3 years can contest to that. What a freaking joke this has become.

 

[Gaede]

Normally, this time of year I am extremely excited for the draft and the upcoming season.

But this year, I have a nagging feeling that the draft will be a major letdown. No particular reason for it, but I don't get a good feeling about it.

 

[DoomsDayD]

So we can assume that 7-9 is your call for the 2013 season?

Why not!! Hope they prove me wrong!! After 6-10,8-8,8-8 seasons,i might as well shoot for the moon and say 7-9.

 

[DFWJC]

Why not!! Hope they prove me wrong!! After 6-10,8-8,8-8 seasons,i might as well shoot for the moon and say 7-9.

Ok
7-9 it is.

 

[egn22]

That's fine and dandy. SEA and SF and ATL don't have to sign shiny new free agents to be better than Dallas. They were better (significantly so) last season.

Too many fans over-rate the talent of their favorite team (not exclusively a Cowboys fan trait), and the Cowboys are the most extreme example of this due to the nature and exposure of their coverage.

The bottom line is that the majority of the core of this team is aging or has a history of injuries, and most of them are not trenches guys anyways. That core has accomplished diddly squat. 1 playoff win. 2 seasons of 10+ wins. That's not getting it done, but since the team stays heavily covered and heavily exposed, Jerry Jones is satisfied with the cashflows. Yet, he still publicly says he wants credit when the Boys win another Super Bowl. He's the problem, and he's not going away.

There you go again worrying about the next man. As if Seattle has been so much better than us for such a long period of time. As if we haven't beaten SF recently.

We were PLAGUED by injuries last year dude. Yes we are in tough financial times right now. But if we can field a healthy team this season, you're in complete denial if you don't recognize some of the talent that we have.

A poor draft would obviously make things tough. But if we can draft a few good pieces I think we're in decent shape. not the greatest, but not as doom and gloom as you guys make it out to be. every year is a new year, and i can't tell you what to do on your sundays, but i'll be watching the cowboys on mine, with hope AND belief that we can win.

 

[big dog cowboy]

We were PLAGUED by injuries last year dude. Yes we are in tough financial times right now. But if we can field a healthy team this season, you're in complete denial if you don't recognize some of the talent that we have.

See sig.

 

[Hook'em#11]

I'm in zombie mode with this franchise.

I will start getting excited on Sept 10.

I don't really want them extending either Romo or Spence. Especially Spencer.

I guess if they can fix the O-line, that is one less excuse the Romo'ers will have.

I would like to see new blood on both sides of the ball where old blood has worn out their welcome ,IMO..

 

[egn22]

See sig.

 

[EGTuna]

There you go again worrying about the next man. As if Seattle has been so much better than us for such a long period of time. As if we haven't beaten SF recently.

We were PLAGUED by injuries last year dude. Yes we are in tough financial times right now. But if we can field a healthy team this season, you're in complete denial if you don't recognize some of the talent that we have.

A poor draft would obviously make things tough. But if we can draft a few good pieces I think we're in decent shape. not the greatest, but not as doom and gloom as you guys make it out to be. every year is a new year, and i can't tell you what to do on your sundays, but i'll be watching the cowboys on mine, with hope AND belief that we can win.

Not worrying about the "other man". I am simply evaluating the competition, which is what all teams do, and when I look at it objectively, I see a number of teams that are much more talented than Dallas, and hence have much better mathematical odds of having a winning season next year.

I recognize the talent on this team, and objective analysis doesn't allow me to believe they're able to contend for a super bowl in 2013. 6-10, 8-8, 8-8 the last 3 years combined with a lack of infusion of healthy, young talent is no reason to believe they will suddenly jump to an 11-12 win team. Every team has injuries, and many of the players Dallas lost to injury (Murray, Lee, Carter) have a history of being injured both as Cowboys and in college. And current talent is aging and becoming more prone to long term injury, e.g., Ware, Austin, Ratliff. Older guys take longer to recover, and are less effective playing with minor injuries than younger players. That's the point; the core of the team is mostly aging and/or has a history of injuries. Only Tyron Smith and Brandon Carr don't fit this category. Hopefully Mo Claiborne does as well, but time will tell.

I think you over-estimate the overall talent level, particularly in the trenches and up the middle, which is the most important part of the team. Did you see how bad the offensive line was for a majority of the season? The DL was mediocre at best despite getting good play from Spencer.

Maybe a subset of the upcoming 2013 draft class + Tyrone Crawford, Kyle Wilbur, Matt Johnson, Jeremy Parnell, John Hanna, Phill Costa and Barry Church will alll emerge as very good players in 2013, which is possible. However, there's no on the field evidence to suggest that that group just listed will be the infusion of young talent this team needs to get over the mediocrity hump they've been mired in since 2010 (Crawford and Church have flashed from time to time, but we can't count on them making The Leap without more evidence). And only 1 of those players listed so far are an interior OL -Phil Costa- and if this team needs a talent burst anywhere it's interior OL. My bet would be that Jerry Jones once again ignores this critical area of need. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong about all of my analysis. The evidence suggests I'm not.

I do love your avatar. Breaking Bad is the best. Show. Ever.

 

[noshame]

We have a new defensive coach,added some other key coaches maybe a new play caller, we've cut some players who were holding us back, we have injured players on the mend, we will add some rookies and some FAs to an 8-8 team that was very close to the playoffs---what's not to be excited about.

You could have written the same thing a few times over the last 17 years so, for me, not so much.

 

[egn22]

Not worrying about the "other man". I am simply evaluating the competition, which is what all teams do, and when I look at it objectively, I see a number of teams that are much more talented than Dallas, and hence have much better mathematical odds of having a winning season next year.

I recognize the talent on this team, and objective analysis doesn't allow me to believe they're able to contend for a super bowl in 2013. 6-10, 8-8, 8-8 the last 3 years combined with a lack of infusion of healthy, young talent is no reason to believe they will suddenly jump to an 11-12 win team. Every team has injuries, and many of the players Dallas lost to injury (Murray, Lee, Carter) have a history of being injured both as Cowboys and in college. And current talent is aging and becoming more prone to long term injury, e.g., Ware, Austin, Ratliff. Older guys take longer to recover, and are less effective playing with minor injuries than younger players. That's the point; the core of the team is mostly aging and/or has a history of injuries. Only Tyron Smith and Brandon Carr don't fit this category. Hopefully Mo Claiborne does as well, but time will tell.

I think you over-estimate the overall talent level, particularly in the trenches and up the middle, which is the most important part of the team. Did you see how bad the offensive line was for a majority of the season? The DL was mediocre at best despite getting good play from Spencer.

Maybe a subset of the upcoming 2013 draft class + Tyrone Crawford, Kyle Wilbur, Matt Johnson, Jeremy Parnell, John Hanna, Phill Costa and Barry Church will alll emerge as very good players in 2013, which is possible. However, there's no on the field evidence to suggest that that group just listed will be the infusion of young talent this team needs to get over the mediocrity hump they've been mired in since 2010 (Crawford and Church have flashed from time to time, but we can't count on them making The Leap without more evidence). And only 1 of those players listed so far are an interior OL -Phil Costa- and if this team needs a talent burst anywhere it's interior OL. My bet would be that Jerry Jones once again ignores this critical area of need. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong about all of my analysis. The evidence suggests I'm not.

I do love your avatar. Breaking Bad is the best. Show. Ever.

I hear you, and what you're saying makes sense. but again, with a good draft, we will be in a position to make some noise. i can't say we're superbowl contenders, but i do think we'll be able to at least compete for a playoff spot which is all i can ask for at this point. I'd be happy w/ that.

I'm not going to let myself get worked up about what other teams have because we all witnessed that epic philly collapse last season and the season before. they "won" free agency and sucked on the field.

so yeah, i like our chances if we stay somewhat healthy.

and yes, breaking bad is the best show on TV (still waiting for last season to make it to Netflix)

 

[Silverstar]

Excited?

We'll see how they do in the draft and whether they cut Free or not. I'm not sold on Costa starting 16+ games either....he reminds me of Matt Lehr.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Was this a copy and paste from the beginning of last year. Seems this is a rehash of what you say every year.

How's that 8-8 working out for you, Fla?

I could be like you and preach doom and gloom every year. Then if things look good toward the end of the season, you can have one of your infamous proclamations how you are now sold on Romo, or the Cowboys or whoever is doing well at the time.

You used to troll your own board that you were the admin on and take contrary opinions just to stir stuff up.

Last year, I think injuries had more to do with the finish than anything else. If we have more of the same, we likely will have a similar or worse year.

It's hilarious how seem to consider yourself the arbiter of who and who isn't a fan.