Anyone Like This Scenario?

[Verdict]

Dez can play 5 plus more years and his arrow is pointing up. Everyone wants the Murray of last year (where was everyone last year wanting to sign Murray to 8 a year). He has had one great year and every other year he has missed multiple games.. He may already be used up (due to number of carries. Go look up the curse of 370 for evidence of that). If not, very seriously doubt he last as long as what Dez will. I'm betting he isn't a 1,000 yard rusher in two years (especially if he isn't playing behind this line). Meanwhile, running backs typically translate better from college to the NFL than WR's. This is also a very deep class. So, between keeping Dez (a very special talent) and Murray (a high character guy, a very tough guy who plays a position that is undervalued and easily hurt), I choose Dez every time. Go watch the Houston catch and answer if any WR could make that catch. WR is less dependent on the line as a running back is.

Now, do I want Murray back? Yes. But at the right price. If not, I have no problem letting him walk.

How much better do you expect Dez to get? I think he will get a little bit better, but I also think that there is more risk with Dez than Cowboys fans want to admit for a variety of reasons.

 

[Verdict]

I am trying to get a handle on how different the Cowboys are gonna be on offense next year without Dez and Murray...Defense is really gonna have to step up...

LOL.

 

[DWhite Fan]

Why would they be without Dez? He was franchised today so he will be a Cowboy this year.

If a team is willing to pay the price they most certainly could sign him...My statement is worst case scenario...hope for the best but always plan (or in this case contemplate) for the worst...

 

[coach steele]

How much better do you expect Dez to get? I think he will get a little bit better, but I also think that there is more risk with Dez than Cowboys fans want to admit for a variety of reasons.

I think Dez can still get better and that Dez will be top 5 for his position a lot longer than what Murray will be. Dez does have some issues that may scare you, but we are franchising him, in part so that we can create a contract that limits risk for ourselves. Franchising Dez was the smart move.

 

[Blackspider214]

I think Dez can still get better and that Dez will be top 5 for his position a lot longer than what Murray will be. Dez does have some issues that may scare you, but we are franchising him, in part so that we can create a contract that limits risk for ourselves. Franchising Dez was the smart move.

Well for one,I'd like to see him be better in getting off the line. For someone his size, he sure does get jammed at the line quite a bit. And his disappearing acts get old sometimes. I think he can get somewhat better but it's not like he will exponentially get better the next years. What else is he going to add to his game that he hasn't did by now?

I will keep saying this. Look at what the Lions did with Johnson and tell me if that's smart? That much wrapped up in a WR is not a good thing. They way overpaid for him. I think he was 60mill guaranteed. Dez wants up in that range which is ridiculous for my taste. And Dallas, too seeing as no way they are doing something like that.

 

[coach steele]

Well for one,I'd like to see him be better in getting off the line. For someone his size, he sure does get jammed at the line quite a bit. And his disappearing acts get old sometimes. I think he can get somewhat better but it's not like he will exponentially get better the next years. What else is he going to add to his game that he hasn't did by now?

I will keep saying this. Look at what the Lions did with Johnson and tell me if that's smart? That much wrapped up in a WR is not a good thing. They way overpaid for him. I think he was 60mill guaranteed. Dez wants up in that range which is ridiculous for my taste. And Dallas, too seeing as no way they are doing something like that.

Dez is getting better, which is scary. Getting off the jam is something that he continues with. He is still getting better with his routes. I don't think he disappears in games as much as Romo doesn't force the ball into double coverage and spreads the ball around more. Still he led the league in TD's and is a monster. He is physical and probably the best jump ball catcher in the league. He is a top 5 receiver.

 

[Blackspider214]

Dez is getting better, which is scary. Getting off the jam is something that he continues with. He is still getting better with his routes. I don't think he disappears in games as much as Romo doesn't force the ball into double coverage and spreads the ball around more. Still he led the league in TD's and is a monster. He is physical and probably the best jump ball catcher in the league. He is a top 5 receiver.

In general, I just don't see the need to pay that position big time money, no matter who it is. Teams have already proven you can win without top flight WRs. We would have to sure up other positions but it can be done. Getting two 1st rounders would be very good. An money free to go get a Suh or Hardy, which instantly improve this offense.

Another issue is our offensive scheme but I won't really dive into that here.

 

[coach steele]

In general, I just don't see the need to pay that position big time money, no matter who it is. Teams have already proven you can win without top flight WRs. We would have to sure up other positions but it can be done. Getting two 1st rounders would be very good. An money free to go get a Suh or Hardy, which instantly improve this offense.

Another issue is our offensive scheme but I won't really dive into that here.

Every team is built differently. You can win without a top flight WR. Seattle did it but had a beast of a defense. However, there have been teams that have won with a top flight receiver. Dallas and San Francisco are two teams (92, 93, 94, and 95). Even Suh and Hardy, we would not be dominant. Our strength is our offense. Dez is a big part of that. He almost got us into the NFC Championship game with an incredible catch. Why do you want to change that? Romo has chemistry with the kid, don't mess with that.

By the way, Suh wants 18 or 19 per year. So it would still be difficult to obtain Suh and Hardy if we lost Bryant.

 

[mcc2121]

Would not surprise me in the least if the Raiders were to sign Dez to a huge offer sheet. They are already considering a WR at #4 and have an ownership contemplating a move to another city and looking to create an identity. Dez is a major talent, but you win because of the trenches, not skill positions. WR is a much easier position to fill. To have #4 and the Raiders 2016 #1 would set up the Cowboys future. Plus, the Cowboys could, as has been suggested, invest in Suh.

Suh, #4 overall (Kevin White) + Raiders 2016 #1 >>>> Dez

 

[coach steele]

Fantasy land. Doubt anybody tries to sign Dez. Secondly, doubt Washington gives up a first round pick after not having one for a long time.

 

[RS12]

Place the tag on Dez (which we already did). Let him see what he gets. Don't match. Get compensated two 1st rounders. Use that money we will not be throwing at Dez and go get Suh and Hardy to make this DL legit. I would be all over that all day. And find a young WR in the draft at a much cheaper cost.

I love Dez and his passion but don't feel you absolutely need him to win.

Would not be the worst thing that could happen.

 

[CyberB0b]

I don't mind letting Dez walk. I get the feeling he thinks he's better than he is.

 

[Blackspider214]

Every team is built differently. You can win without a top flight WR. Seattle did it but had a beast of a defense. However, there have been teams that have won with a top flight receiver. Dallas and San Francisco are two teams (92, 93, 94, and 95). Even Suh and Hardy, we would not be dominant. Our strength is our offense. Dez is a big part of that. He almost got us into the NFC Championship game with an incredible catch. Why do you want to change that? Romo has chemistry with the kid, don't mess with that.

By the way, Suh wants 18 or 19 per year. So it would still be difficult to obtain Suh and Hardy if we lost Bryant.

Ok but how long has Dez been here and how much success have we had? One single wild card win. Yes, his rookie year Romo was down for most the year but how about 2011-2013? I think if you are going to try and make the focal point of your team the WR position, then you won't go anywhere. Ala the Lions with Megatron.

And well those 90s teams had no cap. So you could pay everyone whatever you wanted and no consequences. Which is a main reason Jerry thrived. Also, Irvin was not commanding the type of salary Dez wants. And we did not win just because of Irvin, either. Irvin was not the focal point of our team.

You seem to think this formula will just magically work. When it hasn't for years. Yes we finally had a good season but was that just Dez? No. It was finally Romo understanding he doesn't need to be a gunslinger, our OL beefing up and relying on the run more.

If you keep neglecting the trenches on the other side of the ball, your ceiling will be eeking out one playoff win a year.

 

[big dog cowboy]

And well those 90s teams had no cap. So you could pay everyone whatever you wanted and no consequences. Which is a main reason Jerry thrived.

Your discrediting the successful drafts we had with that comment.

 

[coach steele]

Ok but how long has Dez been here and how much success have we had? One single wild card win. Yes, his rookie year Romo was down for most the year but how about 2011-2013? I think if you are going to try and make the focal point of your team the WR position, then you won't go anywhere. Ala the Lions with Megatron.

And well those 90s teams had no cap. So you could pay everyone whatever you wanted and no consequences. Which is a main reason Jerry thrived. Also, Irvin was not commanding the type of salary Dez wants. And we did not win just because of Irvin, either. Irvin was not the focal point of our team.

You seem to think this formula will just magically work. When it hasn't for years. Yes we finally had a good season but was that just Dez? No. It was finally Romo understanding he doesn't need to be a gunslinger, our OL beefing up and relying on the run more.

If you keep neglecting the trenches on the other side of the ball, your ceiling will be eeking out one playoff win a year.

1. the running game is the focal point of our offense... However, the offensive line is the main product.... Go watch the film to see how big of holes Murray had. An underwear their had 6.7 yards a carry in limited fashion.

2. Dez helps the running game because he draws attention to him.

3. By your logic, we have only won one game since Dez has been here so we should get rid of every player during that time frame (absolutely makes no sense). I've never said that Dez is the only factor. That was you putting words in my mouth. However, I do stand by the point that he is an important part of our offense. You would have to be ignorant of all things football to state otherwise.

4. Irvin was the focal point of our pass offense just like Dez is. Every team is built differently. Dez is important, just like this offensive line is. Running backs (either by committee or with another running back in this loaded draft) are easier to find. By the way, we only won one playoff game with Murray (your logic). It was the only time he stayed healthy for 16 games.