Anyone watch Joey Bosa play?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I see his max potential to be a 6-10 sack guy (not his rookie year but over time; 4-5 is what is more likely if we're lucky this season) from LE and moving Lawrence to RE to accommodate the pick. Just not what I see as a great investment when Lawrence has shown to be just as productive @ LE and doesn't have recreational drug issues. I would prefer Lawson/Lynch in a slight trade back (I know you need a partner, etc.) or Joseph in a big trade back into the late 1st. Could get Dodd in the 2nd if we pick Lynch over Lawson.

If we can't do the above, I would take Tunsil if we can't find the trading partner.

I can make up predictive stats too but all I see here is repetition of group think as opposed to numbers arrived at by any real method.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And Illinois. And Oregon. I don't think it's overplayed, given that the guy is seen as an underwhelming candidate for our pick. But there's no doubt that, like all good DLs, he got a lot of attention in college last year. That's obviously better than the alternative.

And Rutgers.

 

[BigStar]

I can make up predictive stats too but all I see here is repetition of group think as opposed to numbers arrived at by any real method.

Okay disregard the potential sack numbers and read the rest of the post. It says the same thing...

 

[Solution]

I see his max potential to be a 6-10 sack guy but good in the run game (not his rookie year but over time; 4-5 is what is more likely if we're lucky this season) from LE and moving Lawrence to RE to accommodate the pick. Just not what I see as a great investment when Lawrence has shown to be just as productive @ LE and doesn't have recreational drug issues. I would prefer Lawson/Lynch in a slight trade back (I know you need a partner, etc.) or Joseph in a big trade back into the late 1st. Could get Dodd in the 2nd if we pick Lynch over Lawson.

If we can't do the above, I would take Tunsil/Ramsey if we can't find the trading partner.

"Doesn't have recreational drug issues."

Guys, should I tell him?

 

[BigStar]

"Doesn't have recreational drug issues."

Guys, should I tell him?

The suspension for PEs?

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

"Doesn't have recreational drug issues."

Guys, should I tell him?

Preach it brutha?

 

[Alexander]

I don't disagree, I am just trying to read where the boys spent time and they spent a lot of time on Dak.

Although I do think Dak has some tools, there are others I would prefer.

But do something, take a swing at the plate.

So you are saying that after our organization that has proven it has never valued QBs, has shown they can't evaluate the position and now just because they have spent a lot of time on Prescott, you are okay with just "doing something"?

I would rather do nothing than endorse a prospect I don't think can play.

 

[boysfanindc]

So you are saying that after our organization that has proven it has never valued QBs, has shown they can't evaluate the position and now just because they have spent a lot of time on Prescott, you are okay with just "doing something"?

I would rather do nothing than endorse a prospect I don't think can play.

No I am saying they have spent basically no resources on it in 2 decades and none since 2009, so how could we possibly know if the current scouts can evaluate kids coming out of college (said it that way for a reason), they see something in Dak it appears, so we will see and yes it is better then doing absolutely nothing. If you can't trust your scouts you need new scouts.

So if they see something in Dak I would like to see then take a swing, even if you don't think Dak can play.

 

[Alexander]

No I am saying they have spent basically no resources on it in 2 decades and none since 2009, so how could we possibly know if the current scouts can evaluate kids coming out of college (said it that way for a reason), they see something in Dak it appears, so we will see and yes it is better then doing absolutely nothing. If you can't trust your scouts you need new scouts.

So if they see something in Dak I would like to see then take a swing, even if you don't think Dak can play.

Nothing like that ol' college try on a player I don't think can play.

 

[boysfanindc]

Nothing like that ol' college try on a player I don't think can play.

Don't believe it is a old college try, believe it is finally tasking your scouts with finding you QB who has development potential, because finally you are going to spend a few resources on it.

But you may be right, not trying might get better results.

 

[Solution]

The suspension for PEs?

Oh sorry I never looked up what it was for, specifically. I'm so relieved that it's only PEs. WHEW!

 

[BigStar]

Oh sorry I never looked up what it was for, specifically. I'm so relieved that it's only PEs. WHEW!

Oh cool, you had me wondering I was about to get some good gossip/rumor related to Joseph/Lawson/Lynch/Dodd, etc. No big d tbh I thought it was for cocaine initially Felt bad for insinuating that.

 

[Solution]

Oh cool, you had me wondering I was about to get some good gossip/rumor related to Joseph/Lawson/Lynch/Dodd, etc. No big d tbh I thought it was for cocaine initially Felt bad for insinuating that.

Lol yeah, I simply read the headlines and just assumed it was the same issue as Gregory. Our d-line is a bad joke at this point.

 

[GroundZero1970]

I just watched OSU vs Oregon in title game and I am not impressed by Bosa at all

 

[kazzd58]

People remember that it was the running game that got us to 12-4 so they like to reinvent that. However, they forgot it was the DL play that lost the Packer game. We couldn't touch a one legged Aaron Rodgers.

Actually it was that Murray fumble which change the game the one where he had a lane as big as the red sea for a TD yea that one, if that don't happen I'm sure the defense would have held on fin the end or the win...


i've always believe that... so with Zeke we won't have to worry about that right? cause thats what he do he see the lane he gone for TD so the defense is not in position to lose the game more than likely

 

[reddyuta]

Bosa scored 37 on the wonderlic,this is really suprising to me ,i guess we shouldnt judge guys intelligence on how they speak or act.

 

[mattjames2010]

Bosa scored 37 on the wonderlic,this is really suprising to me ,i guess we shouldnt judge guys intelligence on how they speak or act.

Exactly what is wrong with how he speaks? He seemed to be pretty down to Earth in his interviews. Did he not use enough big words or something?

 

[gimmesix]

All this talk of Bosa makes me think everyone has completely given up on Gregory?

I don't like the suspension and other stuff with Gregory, but surely we need to see him play a most of a season before we write him off?

If we have both Bosa and Gregory, who starts and who gets moved to another position?

A this moment we have much greater needs than doubling up at DE.

I don't think we can count on Gregory at this point. If he proves reliable after his suspension, then I don't see having three quality ends as a problem. With Bosa having the ability to move inside on passing downs, we could easily get all three plenty of snaps.

I feel the opposite of you. I think DE is our biggest need and we're in position to take the consensus best one in this draft ... a player several respected draft analysts have as the No. 1 player in this draft.

Marinelli's defense relies on "Rushmen" and our failures to put together a top-quality defense up to this point have been because of our lack of a consistent pass rush. Gregory being suspended doesn't help. So I'm for getting all the help we can on the line.

 

[btcutter]

Actually it was that Murray fumble which change the game the one where he had a lane as big as the red sea for a TD yea that one, if that don't happen I'm sure the defense would have held on fin the end or the win...

You had too much faith on that D. The entire 2nd half DL wouldn't get close to Rodgers and he + Cobbs just torched up repeatedly.

 

[Solution]

I just watched OSU vs Oregon in title game and I am not impressed by Bosa at all

It's a forum, I get it. Rash opinions fuel this machine. But the ridiculousness of watching a couple minute clip of one single game, without at all considering the context, and coming to the conclusion that you are not impressed with a player is comedy gold and shockingly lazy.

My opinion of Bosa is high because his production was exceptional and the vast majority of professional evaluators across the nation love this kid. Did I watch every game of his, or break down his tape? Nope, not at all. If you did than I respect your opinion on the player what ever it may be. But lets assume 95% of this board doesn't do any sort of in depth analysis (please don't argue me on this, because it's probably closer to 99%). Based off this ASSumption, can we all please tone down the lazy, low effort posts that create these bogus narratives I have to read in every single draft thread that have little basis in reality.

As a side note, for anyone who is honest with themselves, has realized over the past few months that this board has an irrational love for Zeke and an irrational hate for Bosa.