Twitter: Archer: Cowboys have sent a new proposal Dak's agent

[Dre11]

When did Garrett work with those guys?

his direct coach was Richard and before that Baker.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

his direct coach was Richard and before that Baker.

What does that have to do with Garrett?

 

[erod]

Not even close. Heath wouldn't turn that down. Plus I don't get all the Jeff hate. I don't think he brags about himself. I don't think he on social media calling out the fans. I don't think he's selling sunglasses in the locker room. The guy shows up every day and tries to do his best. Is that less than other safety's? Sure.

I like Jeff Heath. Make no mistake. He's a better football player than Bill Bates ever thought about being, and yet this fan base lauds Bates like he's was some star player and trashes Heath at the same time.

My point is, Heath is as good at his position as Dak is at his. They're both just average guys who don't win games for you. Paying Dak almost $40 million as a QB would be like paying Heath $15 as a safety. Too much for either of them.

 

[Dre11]

What does that have to do with Garrett?

exactly nothing, which is my point. You brought Garrett into the conversation.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

exactly nothing, which is my point. You brought Garrett into the conversation.

What do you mean exactly nothing? When discussing how good or bad a player on this team is.....it starts with Garrett. He can't coach his players up. So if someone produces despite crappy coaching? I take notice.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

What do you mean exactly nothing? When discussing how good or bad a player on this team is.....it starts with Garrett. He can't coach his players up. So if someone produces despite crappy coaching? I take notice.

Coaching does make a difference, there is no question. Anybody, regardless of talent level, will be a better Football Player with good Coaching. Is that enough, that's a different discussion but you are 100% right Rocy, Coaching does make a difference.

 

[Dre11]

What do you mean exactly nothing? When discussing how good or bad a player on this team is.....it starts with Garrett. He can't coach his players up. So if someone produces despite crappy coaching? I take notice.

since when did Garrett coach cornerbacks? when a player doesn't reach his potential it's mostly on the players, most players that make the league, have been taught from grade school, through high school and through college, by the time they reach the league and become a professional it's time for them to take ownership of their own success. But what makes this moot is Byron was good and among the top of his position. Zeke turned out to be among the top of his position , Dak is trending to be among the top of his position, Travis Frederick, Zack Martin, Demarcus Lawence, but Jones was held back by Garrett in your mind...lol

 

[Dre11]

Coaching does make a difference, there is no question. Anybody, regardless of talent level, will be a better Football Player with good Coaching. Is that enough, that's a different discussion but you are 100% right Rocy, Coaching does make a difference.

when you're talking head coach, his job is to coach and lead the team, its why there's position coach, because there's no coach that can coach every player individually. still at some point players must take on the task of getting better on their own. it's why most work away on they're own with specialists . players are asking for less practices and less time at facilities...lol

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

since when did Garrett coach cornerbacks? when a player doesn't reach his potential it's mostly on the players, most players that make the league, have been taught from grade school, through high school and through college, by the time they reach the league and become a professional it's time for them to take ownership of their own success. But what makes this moot is Byron was good and among the top of his position. Zeke turned out to be among the top of his position , Dak is trending to be among the top of his position, Travis Frederick, Zack Martin, Demarcus Lawence, but Jones was held back by Garrett in your mind...lol

Man what in the hell are you talking about? What the hell does Byron Jones or the cornerbacks have to do with Garrett sucking?Are you high?

 

[Dre11]

Man what in the hell are you talking about? What the hell does Byron Jones or the cornerbacks have to do with Garrett sucking?Are you high?

no you must be high. you claimed the reason Byron wasn't even better is because of Garrett....lol I told you Garrett has nothing to do with Byron Jones as a player. Go take you Meds, or put down the bong.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

no you must be high. you claimed the reason Byron wasn't even better is because of Garrett....lol I told you Garrett has nothing to do with Byron Jones as a player. Go take you Meds, or put down the bong.

I said no such thing.
Ultron said this:

If he turns down 35m/year $110m guaranteed - I’m tagging and trading him ASAP if I’m the Cowboys. All of these QBs he wants to be paid like (Wilson, Rothlessburger, Goff, and Wentz) have all been to a Super Bowl & 3 have won a SB (granted Wentz was hurt but let’s not kid ourselves he’s much better than Foles).

Then I said this.....

None of those guys had Jason Garrett as head coach either.

And then here comes your high *** talking about Byron Jones and Connor Williams.....

Facts: he had coach, one of the best , a coach that worked with Cam Chancellor,Earl Thomas, Richard Sherman. Facts :if Conner Williams dont screw up his block, they definitely dont lose the minnesota game.

Go take a nap and hopefully you wake up on the right side of the bed and aware of what's going on.

 

[ultron]

I said no such thing.
Ultron said this:



Then I said this.....

None of those guys had Jason Garrett as head coach either.

And then here comes your high *** talking about Byron Jones and Connor Williams.....





Go take a nap and hopefully you wake up on the right side of the bed and aware of what's going on.

I don’t think I made that comment about Byron Jones, and after the contract that Tannehill just got - Dak is probably going to get around $37-$38/m at least, so I change my stance on that.

 

[Dre11]

I said no such thing.
Ultron said this:



Then I said this.....

None of those guys had Jason Garrett as head coach either.

And then here comes your high *** talking about Byron Jones and Connor Williams.....





Go take a nap and hopefully you wake up on the right side of the bed and aware of what's going on.

unless I'm imagining thing you didn't say this


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Simple. See what his peers got and that's a start You need Byron Jones to hit the market to know what he will get or a ball park?


Facts. Imagine if he had a real coach. Would've probably had a top 3 season. He surely wouldn't' have lost that Vikings game.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I don’t think I made that comment about Byron Jones, and after the contract that Tannehill just got - Dak is probably going to get around $37-$38/m at least, so I change my stance on that.

You didn't. You were talking about Dak. I replied to you talking about Dak. I don't know how or where he got Byron Jones from.

And I agree with you. I think the floor is at least 37 million.

unless I'm imagining thing you didn't say this


"
Simple. See what his peers got and that's a start You need Byron Jones to hit the market to know what he will get or a ball park?


Facts. Imagine if he had a real coach. Would've probably had a top 3 season. He surely wouldn't' have lost that Vikings game.

I'm not sure where the first sentence came from but those are two different posts. I said if he had a real coach he probably would've been top 3 last season. That's in regards to Dak not Byron Jones. I don't even know where this Byron Jones discussion is coming from you are bringing up.

 

[ultron]

You didn't. You were talking about Dak. I replied to you talking about Dak. I don't know how or where he got Byron Jones from.

And I agree with you. I think the floor is at least 37 million.



I'm not sure where the first sentence came from but those are two different posts. I said if he had a real coach he probably would've been top 3 last season. That's in regards to Dak not Byron Jones. I don't even know where this Byron Jones discussion is coming from you are bringing up.

No worries

 

[Dre11]

You didn't. You were talking about Dak. I replied to you talking about Dak. I don't know how or where he got Byron Jones from.

And I agree with you. I think the floor is at least 37 million.

You qouted 3 people in one post me included. my response was to the Byron Jones conversation you had with the poster Kevinuis. I took the post you said about if he had a real coach to mean Jones.



I'm not sure where the first sentence came from but those are two different posts. I said if he had a real coach he probably would've been top 3 last season. That's in regards to Dak not Byron Jones. I don't even know where this Byron Jones discussion is coming from you are bringing up.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That makes no sense. Byron Jones had Kris Richard who is the one who put him at corner and helped him have a career year two years ago lol. That line was about Dak.

 

[Dre11]

That makes no sense. Byron Jones had Kris Richard who is the one who put him at corner and helped him have a career year two years ago lol. That line was about Dak.

that's not the way you posted it. I know Richard was Jones coach, I said that in my post.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

that's not the way you posted it. I know Richard was Jones coach, I said that in my post.

Go quote my exact post. I did not word it anyway.

 

[AmericasTeam81]

I like Jeff Heath. Make no mistake. He's a better football player than Bill Bates ever thought about being, and yet this fan base lauds Bates like he's was some star player and trashes Heath at the same time.

My point is, Heath is as good at his position as Dak is at his. They're both just average guys who don't win games for you. Paying Dak almost $40 million as a QB would be like paying Heath $15 as a safety. Too much for either of them.

If they created a pro bowl position for Jeff Heath what would it be?