Archie Manning wants Arch to play for the Dallas Cowboys

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Why would he want his grandson to play somewhere where the quarterbacks get blamed for the lack of a running, defensive problems and special teams problems? Dallas is the only place quarterbacks get blamed for things beyond their control.

Just ask Romo and Dak.
I think those who see football as a very well-paying job see it differently than fans do. They are not worried about blame. They are concerned about job security, pay, etc. Manning sees a team where a high level of success (as far as playoff wins go) is not necessary to become the top-paid QB in the league. He sees an ownership that takes care of its own. Who wouldn't want their kid to have a job where they're going treated that way by their boss? Manning knows as a former player that you are going to get criticized by fans no matter how good you are if the team isn't any good (he experienced that firsthand with the Saints), so I don't think that's a consideration.

Football as a business looks a lot different than football from a fan perspective. And business in Dallas is always booming ... unless you are an outside free agent looking to get in.
 

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well First off I'm a Longhorn fan and I got to tell you right now we need to see arch manning play in college FIRST..

I mean right now he's being held back by his head coach who refuses to acknowledge that Quinn is average and can't play in big games consistently, he has nothing special to offer but being a system quarterback .. that's how most of us feel about Quinn but until we see how arch handles Texas and the SEC, there's no reason to be trying to skip ahead to the NFL...

that's funny because at the beginning of this year we all were hearing about Quinn being a Heisman Trophy candidate in a pro prospect I've watched it for three years I don't see any of that so let's not believe the hype and I've been wanting Arch to play this year he should have played more than the injury games.

IMHO Sarkeesian is actually trying to avoid the fan favorite bringing in the quarterback for two or three series or more a game , for complete series, like get the guy in, Get Arch playing in all the games because he doesn't want the blowback in the controversy when fans find out when arch gets a little bit of rhythm and gets comfortable he's going to look a lot better than Quinn and that's my opinion there's no other reason why you wouldn't pull it you're struggling quarterback your starter when he's not playing well at all when he's injured you don't even take him out you just run the ball 24 straight times but why wouldn't you put arch in? in that case you guys got a bad ankle, and you leave him in the game?

That's a conspiracy theorist from live view Sark is trying to avoid the quarterback controversy,

but until there's actual evidence that arch can actually play at a high level why are we talking about the NFL if he does get that far and he is a top prospect are they going to try to pull the same thing that John Elway and Eli pulled are they going to be able to control that because I don't even think Dion is going to end up being able to control where his kid goes I know they're going to try but you don't control the draft you only have those certain moments where they were able to do so but most are not going to do it and don't have the power to do it....

So sometimes you just end up where you end up and you make the best of it if you're that good you will change your team from bad to good... I mean aren't they a New Orleans southern like lineage wouldn't they want to play for the Saints or add in Atlanta all could use a good quarterback but yes Dallas by that time will be probably picking a new quarterback...
This is rough on the eyes trying to read this but I agree. I am a UT alum and follow them closely. Ewers was always going to be the starter while Arch awaits his chance. There was no QB competition and Ewers is not the better QB even as Arch as a freshman. It is not a meritocracy in Austin, boosters play a big role.
 

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I’m the problem with the franchise? :rolleyes: This isn’t about me. The Cowboys went from 4-12 to 13-3 with Dak his rookie year. This last QB draft has been one of the better ones so far. However, the Bears are still struggling with Williams. Stroud hasn’t looked as good this year. Burrow is having a good season but his team has a worse record than the Cowboys. Despite using the number one overall pick on a QB four years ago, Jacksonville is still struggling. Justin Herbert was a top 10 pick 5 years ago and is only 2 games over 500. Wilson has looked much better with a good team around him. No QB would have success against contending teams with this Cowboys team.
Some fans get too caught up with small samples and struggle big picture regarding players' careers and/or performances. It's why many have been all over the chart looking for Dak's replacement. How many times have we heard "I'll take him over Dak" or " he's better than Dak". This after seeing a backup or rookie win a game or two.

But I have stopped trying with his hardcore critics coz it's a waste of time. Their disdain for Dak is personal and nothing anyone can do will change their mind. Even if you put proven football facts in front of them, doesn't matter.......
 

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We need to accumulate multiple 1st, 2nd and 3rd picks to trade for Arch when he comes out...WE NEED HIM! We may need to pull a Chicago draft and trade all picks to land Arch....but jerry is the GM....we will do nothing...
 

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This is rough on the eyes trying to read this but I agree. I am a UT alum and follow them closely. Ewers was always going to be the starter while Arch awaits his chance. There was no QB competition and Ewers is not the better QB even as Arch as a freshman. It is not a meritocracy in Austin, boosters play a big role.
Oh 100% agree with that I already knew this this old news but that doesn't mean you can't give arch a couple of series in each half where he's not coming in just to run a ball once and back out kind of obvious what you're gonna do the kid deserves more snaps he doesn't have to be named a starter he doesn't have to get the bulk of the stats I'm thinking there's absolutely a underlying worry that there'll be a quarterback controversy..

That's my opinion but I think he deserved more look are you trying to win games or are you just trying to make people happy because it's about winning games these big games you should use everything you have and arch is one of those things he needs to be in a lot more these next two games.,.

well it's about to be game time

hook em horns!!!! go horns!!!
 

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We need to accumulate multiple 1st, 2nd and 3rd picks to trade for Arch when he comes out...WE NEED HIM! We may need to pull a Chicago draft and trade all picks to land Arch....but jerry is the GM....we will do nothing...
How do you know he’s any good? Maybe we should see what he can do in the SEC before we assume he’s capable of being a capable NFL quarterback. Hopefully the goal is he wins more games in the NFL than his grandfather did. Archie Manning is a big mouth loser. When Jerry needs his advice I’m sure he’ll ask for it. So far he hasn’t.
 

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How do you know he’s any good? Maybe we should see what he can do in the SEC before we assume he’s capable of being a capable NFL quarterback. Hopefully the goal is he wins more games in the NFL than his grandfather did. Archie Manning is a big mouth loser. When Jerry needs his advice I’m sure he’ll ask for it. So far he hasn’t.
Arch Manning could come out next year without starting a game in college and still run circles around Dak’s sorry ***.
 

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Arch Manning could come out next year without starting a game in college and still run circles around Dak’s sorry ***.
However good he is he’s apparently not the best quarterback at the University of Texas. And Ewers is projected as a second round pick in a weak quarterback draft. Arch Manning has proven nothing.
 

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All Arch Manning has to do is make sure he's not an early 1st rounder and the Cowboys have a chance of drafting him. Otherwise, probably not. We normally end up in the middle to later part of the 1st round to get our desired players in round one. It would be sweet if we were able to take him.
 

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I think we can probably wait for him to actually be a college starter before crowning him.
 

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Oh 100% agree with that I already knew this this old news but that doesn't mean you can't give arch a couple of series in each half where he's not coming in just to run a ball once and back out kind of obvious what you're gonna do the kid deserves more snaps he doesn't have to be named a starter he doesn't have to get the bulk of the stats I'm thinking there's absolutely a underlying worry that there'll be a quarterback controversy..

That's my opinion but I think he deserved more look are you trying to win games or are you just trying to make people happy because it's about winning games these big games you should use everything you have and arch is one of those things he needs to be in a lot more these next two games.,.

well it's about to be game time

hook em horns!!!! go horns!!!
I was very disappointed with the outcome of the UT-Georgia game yesterday. I thought I was watching the Cowboys with all the penalties, and several that killed the drives and momentum!! But I was mostly disappointed in the stubborness of Sarkisian to not give Arch more playing time. He's the most stubborn coach!! Not sure Arch would have secured a victory, but I was getting sick of seeing Ewers taking sacks and getting out of FG range!! Arch is more mobile, and could have avoided some of those. Then again, what do I know. I do know that I will be happy when Ewers leaves.
 

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However good he is he’s apparently not the best quarterback at the University of Texas. And Ewers is projected as a second round pick in a weak quarterback draft. Arch Manning has proven nothing.
His upside is a zillion times more than Dak’s was coming out of college. You will be proven wrong yet again if Arch stays healthy.
 

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I was very disappointed with the outcome of the UT-Georgia game yesterday. I thought I was watching the Cowboys with all the penalties, and several that killed the drives and momentum!! But I was mostly disappointed in the stubborness of Sarkisian to not give Arch more playing time. He's the most stubborn coach!! Not sure Arch would have secured a victory, but I was getting sick of seeing Ewers taking sacks and getting out of FG range!! Arch is more mobile, and could have avoided some of those. Then again, what do I know. I do know that I will be happy when Ewers leaves.
Yeah too bad they didn't have Brandon Aubrey right he's been a terrible kicker 2 out of three years he's been here so I gotta blame that on the head coach they don't have a good punter or kicker and that is very big in a game that's gonna be played with mostly with the defense in the run game...

So yes the penalties were very frustrating it did remind you of a Cowboys game except for this was a championship game that went into overtime and it's not over because they'll still probably finish in the top five and we'll have another game or two cross our fingers... But I'm surprised sarkeesian didn't have a better special teams I mean we get all these recruits and all these big names and this is one of the worst kickers we've ever had... Those points were costly.
 

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I was very disappointed with the outcome of the UT-Georgia game yesterday. I thought I was watching the Cowboys with all the penalties, and several that killed the drives and momentum!! But I was mostly disappointed in the stubborness of Sarkisian to not give Arch more playing time. He's the most stubborn coach!! Not sure Arch would have secured a victory, but I was getting sick of seeing Ewers taking sacks and getting out of FG range!! Arch is more mobile, and could have avoided some of those. Then again, what do I know. I do know that I will be happy when Ewers leaves.
Yes it is strange but I don't know if I call it stubborn I I just believe he doesn't want a quarterback controversy and thinks the world of Quinn and doesn't want to hurt his confidence by bringing in arch and I'm not talking about for stupid one play runs I would love to have seen him in four series in this game where he got to run the offense for play drives and see what he has but apparently they don't wanna win a championship that bad they're gonna go down with their quarterback and I guess that you can call it stubborn he made promises when he came here to all these players and I guess if you bench a player who plays pretty well and cause a controversy it would be going against the promises you made..
 

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Yeah too bad they didn't have Brandon Aubrey right he's been a terrible kicker 2 out of three years he's been here so I gotta blame that on the head coach they don't have a good punter or kicker and that is very big in a game that's gonna be played with mostly with the defense in the run game...

So yes the penalties were very frustrating it did remind you of a Cowboys game except for this was a championship game that went into overtime and it's not over because they'll still probably finish in the top five and we'll have another game or two cross our fingers... But I'm surprised sarkeesian didn't have a better special teams I mean we get all these recruits and all these big names and this is one of the worst kickers we've ever had... Those points were costly.
Agree. We definitely need to find a better kicker!!
 

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Agree. We definitely need to find a better kicker!!
and Punter.. Pretty much a weak part of our game I mean I don't think he noticed it but apparently you don't have a backup kicker or punter but both of them are pretty bad they're average I mean you can't have average special teams when you're trying to win big games I mean it comes into play kickers I mean look at what's happening to some of the games that the Ravens have lost because Justin Tucker ironically right to EX Texas kicker one of the best kickers to ever play in the NFL is is contributing to losses recently and they seem to not have an answer or refuse to cut him right now because they don't think they can find someone off the street better..
 

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and Punter.. Pretty much a weak part of our game I mean I don't think he noticed it but apparently you don't have a backup kicker or punter but both of them are pretty bad they're average I mean you can't have average special teams when you're trying to win big games I mean it comes into play kickers I mean look at what's happening to some of the games that the Ravens have lost because Justin Tucker ironically right to EX Texas kicker one of the best kickers to ever play in the NFL is is contributing to losses recently and they seem to not have an answer or refuse to cut him right now because they don't think they can find someone off the street better..
I still can't believe the Horns' ST coach didn't look for that fake punt, especially with Georgia's starting punter out after being injured!!
 

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I still can't believe the Horns' ST coach didn't look for that fake punt, especially with Georgia's starting punter out after being injured!!
Right it's ironic that on Thanksgiving I have a certain section of my family who were there who are all A&M fans when I was talking to my nephew who goes to A&M he's a senior we're having a very mature discussion about our teams very honest and when I told him is if we somehow lost that game was going to be over special teams or Quinn was going to find a way to give them the game and it almost happened, I Mean in the second half of the A&M game all that happened , and literally if you look at these games you got to know your weaknesses and definitely special teams are right there going to be hard to win these bigger games when they're going to be tighter low scoring defensive games when you can't trust your special teams units...
 
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