News: Are Ezekiel Elliott’s actions tainting the Dallas Cowboys image?

[tyke1doe]

It's tragic to see thoughts like this.

We've been told that we shouldn't bring up Thompson's lying to police, witness tampering and extortion talks. That's 'victim shaming.' However, those things are directly involved with the incident at hand.

Yet, when it comes to EE it is perfectly fine to discuss that he has a speeding ticket, was at a bar where witnesses claim he didn't throw a punch, and that he pulled the top down of a girl he was dating...all of which have nothing to do with the Thompson case.

The hypocrisy is is extreme. The hypocrisy is stunning.

Here's a crazy thought...all 22 year olds are not grown up. They still have a lot of learning to do and wisdom to gain.

A guy like Josh Brent tarnishes the image of the Cowboys. A guy like Joseph Randle tarnishes the image of the Cowboys. A guy like Rolando McClain tarnishes the image of the Cowboys.

A guy like Ezekiel Elliott exposes the ignorance and hypocrisy of those that support Tiffany Thompson. His situation exposes that despite the Duke lacrosse scandal that only happened 11 years ago and despite so many of the Crystal Mangum supporters saying they were 'sorry' for making the Duke kids guilty until proven innocent...not a single one of them has learned a damn thing and in reality...they were never truly sorry. They just wanted to sound good.

YR

In this particular case, I support Zeke because I don't find Thompson credible.

Having said that, I don't find those mentioning Zeke's other questionable episodes hypocritical at all.

There is a principle at work here: "To whom much is given, much is required."

Zeke has been given more in terms of talent that allows the country to take notice, responsibility as a man to govern his dealings with women more appropriately, celebrity which puts his actions (good or bad - Thompson can't jump in a Salvation Army kettle and cause the organization's donations to skyrocket) in a national spotlight, etc.

Thompson enjoys none of what Zeke enjoys, and the only reason we know anything about her is based on her affiliation to Zeke.

So, yes, Zeke is more responsible to govern who he makes friends with, who he dates, etc. based on the platform he has been given.

You and I may not like it, but it is one of the immutable truths that govern humanity, relationships and responsibilities.

Wise people don't curse the dynamic but adjust their lives accordingly.

 

[MeTed]

We'll see how this shakes out but I'm leaning towards the NFL decision .I was influenced by the panel decision ,I can be swayed back.
#winwithout21

The challenge is not unique to the NFL. Research Title IX false accusations.

 

[Doomsday101]

Based on how the policy is written and the wide latitude the Commissioners office has in ruling conduct detrimental I'd have to agree that accusations are a vital ingredient along with any pics or videos along with placing the player at the scene or history they might have.

It appears unlike a criminal case the burden is on the player needing to prove his innocence.

I'd suggest with the image concerns of the NFL that all players tread carefully and choose wisely out in public because it could threaten their careers.
#winwithout21

So pretty much all it takes is a person accusing. The photos, where they from the altercation she got into with another person whom their is clear cut evidence she was in a fight. When she called the police and they asked her if she wanted to get medical attention she declined to get that attention. Heck they would have examined her and documented it. Instead the photos the NFL got where the same photos that she posted on Instagram. While this may not be a court of law there should be some required evidence and some burden of proof

 

[erod]

So pretty much all it takes is a person accusing. The photos, where they from the altercation she got into with another person whom their is clear cut evidence she was in a fight. When she called the police and they asked her if she wanted to get medical attention she declined to get that attention. Heck they would have examined her and documented it. Instead the photos the NFL got where the same photos that she posted on Instagram. While this may not be a court of law there should be some required evidence and some burden of proof

She's a two-bit skank and money-grubbing attention *****.

He's a party playboy with a drinking problem and a taste for illicit drugs.

You can imagine how solid this relationship was. ANYTHING could have possibly happened.

 

[Philmonroe]

In this particular case, I support Zeke because I don't find Thompson credible.

Having said that, I don't find those mentioning Zeke's other questionable episodes hypocritical at all.

There is a principle at work here: "To whom much is given, much is required."

Zeke has been given more in terms of talent that allows the country to take notice, responsibility as a man to govern his dealings with women more appropriately, celebrity which puts his actions (good or bad - Thompson can't jump in a Salvation Army kettle and cause the organization's donations to skyrocket) in a national spotlight, etc.

Thompson enjoys none of what Zeke enjoys, and the only reason we know anything about her is based on her affiliation to Zeke.

So, yes, Zeke is more responsible to govern who he makes friends with, who he dates, etc. based on the platform he has been given.

You and I may not like it, but it is one of the immutable truths that govern humanity, relationships and responsibilities.

Wise people don't curse the dynamic but adjust their lives accordingly.

If you don't find these people hypocritical it is because maybe you're bias. You put this on the other foot folks talking about victim shaming and the like. Mentioning things that aren't related to the case to try to sway folks is junk period. If you can't do it on one side same should apply to the other or else its hypocritical.

 

[Diehardblues]

Without Jerry Jones, our beloved Cowboys would have two Super Bowl championships from the 1970s and no others.

That's an unknown.

Without Jimmy it's unlikely if we would have added any but regardless just an opinion without either we wouldn't have any more .
#winwithout21

 

[Doomsday101]

She's a two-bit skank and money-grubbing attention *****.

He's a party playboy with a drinking problem and a taste for illicit drugs.

You can imagine how solid this relationship was. ANYTHING could have possibly happened.

if we go by anything could have happened then who is not guilty in the NFL and across the country?

 

[Doomsday101]

That's an unknown.

Without Jimmy it's unlikely if we would have added any but regardless just an opinion without either we wouldn't have any more .
#winwithout21

True it is an unknown, then again who hired Jimmy? I take it Johnson did not hire himself. Even then Jones came under fire one for firing Landry and 2nd people got a good laugh over him hiring a college coach to replace Landry. That is until they won championships.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

In this particular case, I support Zeke because I don't find Thompson credible.

Having said that, I don't find those mentioning Zeke's other questionable episodes hypocritical at all.

There is a principle at work here: "To whom much is given, much is required."

Zeke has been given more in terms of talent that allows the country to take notice, responsibility as a man to govern his dealings with women more appropriately, celebrity which puts his actions (good or bad - Thompson can't jump in a Salvation Army kettle and cause the organization's donations to skyrocket) in a national spotlight, etc.

EE worked to get where he is. And EE has talent to get where he is at today. And every man or woman, has certain inalienable rights in this country regardless of race, religion, wealth, etc. And ask yourself if this was a case where a wealthy, celebrity woman was being accused of raping a regular man by drugging his drink, would that female celebrity be attacked for things that have nothing to do with the case at hand? And would people continue to give that regular dude the benefit of the doubt if he was caught lying to police, tampering with a witness and trying to extrot the celebrity female?

I live a pretty good life now because I make good money at a job and have a successful side business that I own and operate. 10 years ago, that wasn't nearly the case as I made less than half the money I make now.

Because of my increase in earnings, I'm given a lot more than I was 10 years ago. Should I be held to a different standard than I was 10 years ago? I don't think so.

And one of the things that is great about this country is that every man or woman , regardless of race, religion, economic status, etc...are given certain rights. It applies if you are homeless living on the street or if you are Warren Buffett.

In the case of EE, you're innocent until proven guilty. And while this is a case involving a private business, from a business ethics standpoint that applies to. Yet, the NFL has clearly shown that they have treated EE as he is guilty until proven innocent and have used these instances that have nothing to do with the case at hand while completely dismissing the lies and extortion talk by Thompson...which have EXACTLY to do with the case at hand.

Then the NFL issued a statement that Thompson was being 'victim shamed' which is terribly incorrect and hypocritical when they have actually done the same thing to EE.

And that goes for any other person. And in fact, it really doesn't matter if EE was a star in the NFL or just some Joe Schmoe that worked in accounting...you would still be the same hypocrites giving Thompson the benefit of the doubt and shaming the accused.

Why?

Because Thompson is a woman and she is accusing a man of assaulting her.

It's a PR game that the hypocrites are employing and they are the same hypocrites that criticize the NFL for playing the PR game. They are so afraid of what others may think of them for daring to think that woman actually lied about being abused.




YR

 

[erod]

if we go by anything could have happened then who is not guilty in the NFL and across the country?

But it's all-day, every-day with these two, 100 mph.

 

[Doomsday101]

But it's all-day, every-day with these two, 100 mph.

I don't know that as the truth. I'm not saying Zeke is a saint but what I will not do is accuse him of this act based on what has been put in the public arena. I think I have been pretty consistent in supporting the NFL when facts have pointed to a players guilt but in this case once Thompson sent text to a friend to lie about abuse then I find it hard to believe anything she says and so would most any juror. I think her action have lead to more than a reasonable doubt but unfortunately the player is not afforded a reasonable doubt, Zeke is being held to a standard that is the most difficult to do which is prove your innocent. How does anyone do that? It is almost impossible because it comes down to your word vs the accusers word.

 

[CCBoy]

EE worked to get where he is. And EE has talent to get where he is at today. And every man or woman, has certain inalienable rights in this country regardless of race, religion, wealth, etc. And ask yourself if this was a case where a wealthy, celebrity woman was being accused of raping a regular man by drugging his drink, would that female celebrity be attacked for things that have nothing to do with the case at hand? And would people continue to give that regular dude the benefit of the doubt if he was caught lying to police, tampering with a witness and trying to extrot the celebrity female?

I live a pretty good life now because I make good money at a job and have a successful side business that I own and operate. 10 years ago, that wasn't nearly the case as I made less than half the money I make now.

Because of my increase in earnings, I'm given a lot more than I was 10 years ago. Should I be held to a different standard than I was 10 years ago? I don't think so.

And one of the things that is great about this country is that every man or woman , regardless of race, religion, economic status, etc...are given certain rights. It applies if you are homeless living on the street or if you are Warren Buffett.

In the case of EE, you're innocent until proven guilty. And while this is a case involving a private business, from a business ethics standpoint that applies to. Yet, the NFL has clearly shown that they have treated EE as he is guilty until proven innocent and have used these instances that have nothing to do with the case at hand while completely dismissing the lies and extortion talk by Thompson...which have EXACTLY to do with the case at hand.

Then the NFL issued a statement that Thompson was being 'victim shamed' which is terribly incorrect and hypocritical when they have actually done the same thing to EE.

And that goes for any other person. And in fact, it really doesn't matter if EE was a star in the NFL or just some Joe Schmoe that worked in accounting...you would still be the same hypocrites giving Thompson the benefit of the doubt and shaming the accused.

Why?

Because Thompson is a woman and she is accusing a man of assaulting her.

It's a PR game that the hypocrites are employing and they are the same hypocrites that criticize the NFL for playing the PR game. They are so afraid of what others may think of them for daring to think that woman actually lied about being abused.




YR

I really am not in favor of empowering self-motivated back stabbers.

Thanks for the share...and you have done it the old fashioned way, you earned.

 

[zrinkill]

I'd define his thuggish behavior with his conduct following this incident. There's definitely a pattern of thuggish conduct and my money is this won't be the last time.
#winwithout21

What a stupid post and hashtag.

 

[CowboyStar88]

You should just have given up after issuing the words...I can see - and quit the mirage of a discussion.

Get off your high horse

 

[CowboyGil]

And you believe Elliott is completely innocent and has never laid a hand on this girl?
#winwithout21

it's not what you believe, but what you can prove. That is unless you're part of the NFL investigative panel. Then it's open season based on accusations and hearsay.

 

[Diehardblues]

it's not what you believe, but what you can prove. That is unless you're part of the NFL investigative panel. Then it's open season based on accusations and hearsay.

Right and that's where I'm aligned.. the NFL panel whose decision swayed my opinions because that decision is what effects the Cowboys. The criminal case is of no concern to me.
#winwithout21

 

[tyke1doe]

EE worked to get where he is. And EE has talent to get where he is at today. And every man or woman, has certain inalienable rights in this country regardless of race, religion, wealth, etc. And ask yourself if this was a case where a wealthy, celebrity woman was being accused of raping a regular man by drugging his drink, would that female celebrity be attacked for things that have nothing to do with the case at hand? And would people continue to give that regular dude the benefit of the doubt if he was caught lying to police, tampering with a witness and trying to extrot the celebrity female?

I live a pretty good life now because I make good money at a job and have a successful side business that I own and operate. 10 years ago, that wasn't nearly the case as I made less than half the money I make now.

Because of my increase in earnings, I'm given a lot more than I was 10 years ago. Should I be held to a different standard than I was 10 years ago? I don't think so.

And one of the things that is great about this country is that every man or woman , regardless of race, religion, economic status, etc...are given certain rights. It applies if you are homeless living on the street or if you are Warren Buffett.

In the case of EE, you're innocent until proven guilty. And while this is a case involving a private business, from a business ethics standpoint that applies to. Yet, the NFL has clearly shown that they have treated EE as he is guilty until proven innocent and have used these instances that have nothing to do with the case at hand while completely dismissing the lies and extortion talk by Thompson...which have EXACTLY to do with the case at hand.

Then the NFL issued a statement that Thompson was being 'victim shamed' which is terribly incorrect and hypocritical when they have actually done the same thing to EE.

And that goes for any other person. And in fact, it really doesn't matter if EE was a star in the NFL or just some Joe Schmoe that worked in accounting...you would still be the same hypocrites giving Thompson the benefit of the doubt and shaming the accused.

Why?

Because Thompson is a woman and she is accusing a man of assaulting her.

It's a PR game that the hypocrites are employing and they are the same hypocrites that criticize the NFL for playing the PR game. They are so afraid of what others may think of them for daring to think that woman actually lied about being abused.

YR

What you said still doesn't negate the principle "to whom much is given, much is required."

 

[CowboysRule]

I just want to see any shred of proof that Zeke did anything. They have an eyewitness...it's the accuser. Can you be an eyewitness to your own accusation? Other witnesses also refute her facts, and it is documented in texts messages that not only has she lied, but she asked others to lie. There are pictures of her with bruises. A witness stated that she had seen the "victim" in basically a bathing suit during the time when the domestic assaults were happening and she had no bruising UNTIL the night she was involved in a bar fight. It's basically just his word verse hers with the NFL choosing to side with someone who obviously wanted to ruin Zeke's career, had motive to do so, and with the NFL chomping at the bit to right the wrong with Josh Brown and his DV case, the means.

So please just show me one bit of solid evidence that DV was comitted and then I can side with the NFL. Don't bring up the weed shop, that's not illegal. Don't bring up the parade, that's not illegal. Don't bring up the bar fight, witnesses say it was not him. Show me proof of domestic violence.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

What you said still doesn't negate the principle "to whom much is given, much is required."

It does because it's a ridiculous principle.

You are basically punishing somebody for success.

And just like I mentioned in the hypothesis...if it was a famous celebrity woman who was accused of drugging and raping an ordinary dude...you wouldn't say 'to much is given, much is required.'

It's hypocritical...point blank.









YR

 

[cowboy_ron]

Without Jimmy Johmson our beloved Cowboys would have two Super Bowl championships from the 1970s and no others.

FYP.....without Jimmy we wouldn't have 3 championships in the 90's.....if it was Jerry we would have been able to win post Jimmy, but we haven't, it's just been one bad decision after another.