News: Are Ezekiel Elliott’s actions tainting the Dallas Cowboys image?

Yakuza Rich said:
It's tragic to see thoughts like this.

We've been told that we shouldn't bring up Thompson's lying to police, witness tampering and extortion talks. That's 'victim shaming.' However, those things are directly involved with the incident at hand.

Yet, when it comes to EE it is perfectly fine to discuss that he has a speeding ticket, was at a bar where witnesses claim he didn't throw a punch, and that he pulled the top down of a girl he was dating...all of which have nothing to do with the Thompson case.

The hypocrisy is is extreme. The hypocrisy is stunning.

Here's a crazy thought...all 22 year olds are not grown up. They still have a lot of learning to do and wisdom to gain.

A guy like Josh Brent tarnishes the image of the Cowboys. A guy like Joseph Randle tarnishes the image of the Cowboys. A guy like Rolando McClain tarnishes the image of the Cowboys.

A guy like Ezekiel Elliott exposes the ignorance and hypocrisy of those that support Tiffany Thompson. His situation exposes that despite the Duke lacrosse scandal that only happened 11 years ago and despite so many of the Crystal Mangum supporters saying they were 'sorry' for making the Duke kids guilty until proven innocent...not a single one of them has learned a damn thing and in reality...they were never truly sorry. They just wanted to sound good.





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And a whole decade just increases the affect by media types and a whole inexperienced group of naïve fans.
 
Diehardblues said:
There's no Conspiracy against the Cowboys.

Jerry has brought all of this on himself with all of the bad boys we harbor and pursue leading the league in suspended players.

And if that isn't enough he publicly pleads for his players acquittal to sway public opinion while lobbying the NFL to lift the mandatory drug testing on Marijuana so his players can play .

Jerry runs our franchise thru the eyes of a fan only concerned about suiting up his guys without any accountability to their conduct in the community, harm to the teams chemistry and culture along with any potential damage to the NFL image.

Basically a total disregard for the rest of the league for his own self interest . I'd definitely promote and support the league taking stronger action against Jerry even if it means hurting the Cowboys temporarily to deter him continuing his selfish ambitions which up to this point I'd argue is hurting us more than it's helping us.
#winwithout21
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Jerry Jones hasn't been accused of anything. You have an agenda.
 
Diehardblues said:
Ms Thompson was physically battered . Elliott was with her in the apartment for several of the days which match up with them occurring . She accused him of inflicting them despite her inconsistencies and poor character.

All we have is Elliotts word.
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And many affidavits saying she is lying or that she asked others to lie - don't spread fake news!
 
aikemirv said:
And many affidavits saying she is lying or that she asked others to lie - don't spread fake news!
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I'm just spreading the news and conclusion the Commissioners Panel of 4 investigators unanimously arrived at which they determined Elliott did in fact commit Domestic Violence battering Ms Thompson.

Did y'all miss that part or only focused on the criminal case? I'm not here to argue his innocence or guilt . I'm only interested in the NFL decision and how that effects the Cowboys .
#winwithout21
 
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Diehardblues said:
I'm just spreading the news and conclusion the Commissioners Panel of 4 investigators unanimously arrived at which they determined Elliott did in fact commit Domestic Violence.

Did y'all miss that part or only focused on the criminal case? I'm not here to argue his innonce or guilt . I'm only interested in the NFL decision and how that effects the Cowboys .
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Yeah, I focus on the point that the LAW did not feel there was a case and dropped it. We are in America if you did not realize it! The girl was in a bar fight and no one noticed any bruises before that if you take the time to read the FACTS!
 
I think Zeke needs to start using better judgement. I don't think he is a bad guy

While I know some here will argue all I can say is even is own father has concerns

My biggest worry is ... I don't believe my son knows how to navigate in life being a superstar," he said, via ESPN.com. "He's like a little boy who wants to play football and have fun and enjoy people."

Stacy Elliott is concerned the world is full of unpleasant things and his son may be thrust into uncomfortable situations while in the limelight.

"We've always said this about Ezekiel, ever since he came into the world," Stacy said. "He's just happy to be alive. He's a happy guy. But this world is not."

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/new...-cowboys-ohio-state/ukseeci06ap01cdj8tym5aci9
 
aikemirv said:
Yeah, I focus on the point that the LAW did not feel there was a case and dropped it. We are in America if you did not realize it! The girl was in a bar fight and no one noticed any bruises before that if you take the time to read the FACTS!
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I'm only interested in the facts that the NFL determined Elliott committed Domestic Violence against Ms Thompson.

I'm not entrenched in the Law over his guilt or innocence as I hadn't drawn a conclusion until the NFL did.

#winwithout21
 
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Diehardblues said:
I'm only interested in the facts that the NFL determined Elliott committed Domestic Violence against Ms Thompson.

I'm not entrenched in the Law over his guilt or innocence as I hadn't drawn a conclusion until the NFL did.
#winwithout21
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The NFL is not concerned with the truth. They are concerned about their image. And you can't think for yourself!
 
aikemirv said:
The NFL is not concerned with the truth. They are concerned about their image.
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Those are my concerns as well along with the effects of that decision on Cowboy football.

Discussing whether he's actually guilty or innocent has no bearing on Cowboy football games if Elliott is suspended . Not a discussion I'm interested in.
#winwithout21
 
Im not embedded in Elliott's innocence or guilt.

I assume fans realize the NFL decision is not an admission of guilt or conviction in a criminal case only stating there was enough evidence for a violation of personal conduct policy which is in place to discipline players who's conduct is deemed detrimental to the leagues image.

I'd be happy to discuss those issues but not the criminal case which has obviously had no bearing on the NFL decision.
#winwithout21
 
John813 said:
This thread reminded me why I hate hashtags.
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#winwithout21 Is meant as a positive rallying cry for the Cowboys to have success winning football games without Elliott or while he's serving his suspension .
#winwithout21
 
Diehardblues said:
Im not embedded in Elliott's innocence or guilt.

I assume fans realize the NFL decision is not an admission of guilt or conviction in a criminal case only stating there was enough evidence for a violation of personal conduct policy which is in place to discipline players who's conduct is deemed detrimental to the leagues image.

I'd be happy to discuss those issues but not the criminal case which has obviously had no bearing on the NFL decision.
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Yes but it is based on a criminal case. His personal conduct in this matter is based on the fact that the NFL has claimed he was involved with domestic abuse which is a criminal matter and thus are handing him a 6 games suspension. Many of us including Jerry Jones and the NFLPA wants to know why and what is this based on? Is the policy of the league that anyone accused of a crime proven or not is to be punished? If that is the case then anyone can accuse a player of wrong doing and get them suspended.
 
Diehardblues said:
Funny but true .

The Cowboys aren't the only team with players who are tarnishing the image of the NFL . They just have had the most bad boys in recent years.

Being the most popular and visible franchise certainly adds to the exposure not to mention an owner who is not only publicly supportive and sympathetic to his " rock star " athletes conduct but has lobbied the league to lift mandated Marijuana drug test so his bong hitters can play .

Personally , I've been a Jerry Jone$ critic for his entire era so I believe and would argue his risk and intentions to continue these risk , how he's determined to run football operations and the culture he's created is an obstacle, hindrance and handicap for our team despite whatever more positive aspects he's contributed and feel he's deserving of any attacks and criticism . I'd like to see the league take stronger action against teams and owners or whoever is making these personnel decisions to further curb or deter.

This isn't all on the players . If a player has a history coming in then it's on the franchise for taking the risk . I'd like to see suspensions taken on front office , owners and coaches and possible lost draft picks .
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This type of post that make me defend JJones.
Since the beginning of the NFL the tough physical football players have drugged raped, DV, drank and got away with it.
The press had a no tell policy and the players allowed them closer into their ring.
We all fish from the same waters and to get that edge some GM's calibrate their view to get the advantage.Sometimes chickens,sometimes feathers. You can keep your grumps.
 
No. The Cowboys get destroyed no matter what. We get destroyed as fans. I read stuff on Twitter where we are delusional as fans. Worst fan base in sports because we brag about the Cowboys constantly even when the team sucks. Everyone always rips Jerry for all the players that he signs that have legal issues. I understand that "America's Team" will always be under a microscope and some people hate the Cowboys because of the attention the team gets. That's why Eagles fans hate us so much. That is a pathetic fan base. The things that they say and do are ridiculous. They cheered when Michael Irvin got injured. That is sickening, Yet they get referred to as "Passionate."
 
Doomsday101 said:
Yes but it is based on a criminal case. His personal conduct in this matter is based on the fact that the NFL has claimed he was involved with domestic abuse which is a criminal matter and thus are handing him a 6 games suspension. Many of us including Jerry Jones and the NFLPA wants to know why and what is this based on? Is the policy of the league that anyone accused of a crime proven or not is to be punished? If that is the case then anyone can accuse a player of wrong doing and get them suspended.
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Based on how the policy is written and the wide latitude the Commissioners office has in ruling conduct detrimental I'd have to agree that accusations are a vital ingredient along with any pics or videos along with placing the player at the scene or history they might have.

It appears unlike a criminal case the burden is on the player needing to prove his innocence.

I'd suggest with the image concerns of the NFL that all players tread carefully and choose wisely out in public because it could threaten their careers.
#winwithout21
 
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