Are fans ready to accept the Micah trade devasted our defense?

Diehardblues said:
I don’t think anyone is arguing against that. The bigger point is are we a better defense with him. Good GM’s figure out how to build around not tear it down.

We’ll see how long it takes to reload this defense since rebuild is a forbidden term with our dysfunctional ownership.

My hunch is longer without a talent like Micah. And probably waste these last few years with Dak.
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Re signing Dak meant we were wasting everyone else.
 
stilltheguru said:
The pff pass rush grade champ was on the field in that game?

Let's dive into Mr. 90 plus pass rush grade.

2021 postseason pass rush grade....73
2022.....79
2023 74

These are the facts people want to ignore. But hey he's always ranked first in the regular season :rolleyes:
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That laying around on the medical table pre season game was real classy
 
cowboyec said:
our defense has not been the same since the play-off loss to green bay.
and that happened with micah.
we couldn't stop the run before micah got here.
we couldn't stop the run with micah.
and its continued.
its been going on for 10yrs +.
the only way it changes is if the f/o has a philosophical change on how they view the defense.
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That was one game and Quinn thought it would be smart to basically install a completely new scheme for that game.
 
AstroPilota said:
If you owned the Cowboys and he publicly said he no longer wanted to play for you, would you be eager to sign a $200 million dollar contract with him? I don't believe the divorce was really all that sudden, it was brewing for some time.
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If I owned the team and wanted to keep him I would have signed him when he first asked to.
 
Diehardblues said:
I understand if we were actually in an official rebuild mode and Micah wasn’t in our plans as we planned on trading him to highest bidder during Free Agency that could have actually been a strategic plan. But that’s not what happened. We had every intention on resigning. We just couldn’t get a deal done . But I’m not here to argue out as that’s been exhausted over last couple months.

This thread is about what the impacts of losing Micah has meant to this defense . The fact we lost him a week before the season had to be devasting to a DC and schemes with other losses on defense in FA and injuries.

Where was our pass rush going to come from. We also lost Lawrence as a Cap Casualty. Our top two edge rushers gone .

And with our 2 CB’s not a 100% recovering from injuries we were leaving our secondary very vulnerable without a pass rush.

WTH were we thinking. We had to know it could be a disaster .
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How about “exposed.” It was fool’s gold with Micah.
 
RonWashington said:
That laying around on the medical table pre season game was real classy
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He was supposedly stretching his back. But the whole situation never should have occurred. That was on Jerry and his bully negotiating tactics.
 
Diehardblues said:
They need a bunch more than they would have with him. How long will that take.

And will that basically waste Daks remaining years? Like it will this year.

I’d argue we have more questions than answers at this point. Perhaps some of you have more faith in our dysfunctional ownership than I do.
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I haven't seen anyone say they have faith in the FO.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
Well the offense is actually good. The defense has so many issues and Micah didn’t mask them. Micah was out there when guys ran on us for 200 yards. People pretend now but he was out there during the Packers debacle.

I will say we got wore getting rid of him. I felt getting rid of him meant we’d keep Bland and Pickens and I was totally against that.
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I've seen nobody pretend Micah wasn't out there for the GB debacle.
 
Diehardblues said:
I understand if we were actually in an official rebuild mode and Micah wasn’t in our plans as we planned on trading him to highest bidder during Free Agency that could have actually been a strategic plan. But that’s not what happened. We had every intention on resigning. We just couldn’t get a deal done . But I’m not here to argue out as that’s been exhausted over last couple months.

This thread is about what the impacts of losing Micah has meant to this defense . The fact we lost him a week before the season had to be devasting to a DC and schemes with other losses on defense in FA and injuries.

Where was our pass rush going to come from. We also lost Lawrence as a Cap Casualty. Our top two edge rushers gone .

And with our 2 CB’s not a 100% recovering from injuries we were leaving our secondary very vulnerable without a pass rush.

WTH were we thinking. We had to know it could be a disaster .
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The real question is, are Michael fan boys ready to accept that keeping Lil Michael also would have also devestated our defense?
 
Diehardblues said:
I understand if we were actually in an official rebuild mode and Micah wasn’t in our plans as we planned on trading him to highest bidder during Free Agency that could have actually been a strategic plan. But that’s not what happened. We had every intention on resigning. We just couldn’t get a deal done . But I’m not here to argue out as that’s been exhausted over last couple months.

This thread is about what the impacts of losing Micah has meant to this defense . The fact we lost him a week before the season had to be devasting to a DC and schemes with other losses on defense in FA and injuries.

Where was our pass rush going to come from. We also lost Lawrence as a Cap Casualty. Our top two edge rushers gone .

And with our 2 CB’s not a 100% recovering from injuries we were leaving our secondary very vulnerable without a pass rush.

WTH were we thinking. We had to know it could be a disaster .
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Our defense was gonna suck with him.
 
stilltheguru said:
The pff pass rush grade champ was on the field in that game?

Let's dive into Mr. 90 plus pass rush grade.

2021 postseason pass rush grade....73
2022.....79
2023 74

These are the facts people want to ignore. But hey he's always ranked first in the regular season :rolleyes:
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The grade is the outcome, not why.
 
Parsons has 5 tackles & 2.5 sacks on the season. Only 1.5 sacks if you discount the bs sack they gave him against Dak.

I'm not sorry he was traded. He wouldn't have helped our defense much.
 
RonnieT24 said:
You can't get a lead and force them to pass if the defense refuses to even slow the other team down. The best you can hope for is a tie in those situations.. and unfortunately our offense is not getting the benefit of facing our defense so they are at a distinct disadvantage.
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Since you didn't address what I said I don't know how to respond to this.
 
A single one-trick pony pass rusher that has to be utilized on a snap count because his endurance is junk would not have made any difference.
 
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