Are pass rush DE's obsolete?

[NorthwestDallas40]

Not just because we don't have any at the moment, but in today's NFL (and in Marinelli's defense) are pass rushing DE's becoming obsolete? Meaning with the prevalence of 3 step drops and quick passes to WRs within 5 yards when DB's cannot touch WRs, is it necessary to have a premier outside pass rusher that will to typically have time to get to the QB (except maybe on 3rd and long)? Not saying this is a conscious strategy by our FO (I don't give them that much credit), but maybe the pass rush by DT's right in the QBs face is far more important. And the Tyronne Crawfords, David Irvings, Maleik Collins, and Cedric Thorntons rushing right in the QB's face (not to mention LB blitzes in the G-C gap) are more important. Just a thought.

 

[phildadon86]

Not just because we don't have any at the moment, but in today's NFL (and in Marinelli's defense) are pass rushing DE's becoming obsolete? Meaning with the prevalence of 3 step drops and quick passes to WRs within 5 yards when DB's cannot touch WRs, is it necessary to have a premier outside pass rusher that will to typically have time to get to the QB (except maybe on 3rd and long)? Not saying this is a conscious strategy by our FO (I don't give them that much credit), but maybe the pass rush by DT's right in the QBs face is far more important. And the Tyronne Crawfords, David Irvings, Maleik Collins, and Cedric Thorntons rushing right in the QB's face (not to mention LB blitzes in the G-C gap) are more important. Just a thought.

I see your point. However. Von Miller won the superbowl basically single handedly

 

[fifaguy]

Cowboys DE are.

 

[Setackin]

This is gonna be good...

 

[Nova]

Actually a really interesting question.

I don't think the NFL is there yet though. And if we do ever get to that point, it won't be long lived.

Rushing the passer will always be important.

 

[Sydla]

Looking at recent SB winners...... Seattle, Denver, NE, Ravens, Giants, etc...... Most could generate pressure from the outside and were quite good at it.

So I would say no to the question is edge rushing not as important anymore.

 

[Boomer22]

I think you may be on to something an elite interior pass rush can shake even the quickest decision makers into making mistakes, like arguably the goat brady. It can also make the DE jobs a whole lot easier.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Not just because we don't have any at the moment, but in today's NFL (and in Marinelli's defense) are pass rushing DE's becoming obsolete? Meaning with the prevalence of 3 step drops and quick passes to WRs within 5 yards when DB's cannot touch WRs, is it necessary to have a premier outside pass rusher that will to typically have time to get to the QB (except maybe on 3rd and long)? Not saying this is a conscious strategy by our FO (I don't give them that much credit), but maybe the pass rush by DT's right in the QBs face is far more important. And the Tyronne Crawfords, David Irvings, Maleik Collins, and Cedric Thorntons rushing right in the QB's face (not to mention LB blitzes in the G-C gap) are more important. Just a thought.

They're important but a scheme with the right personnel is more important, especially with a great DC.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I see your point. However. Von Miller won the superbowl basically single handedly

Don't forget Papa Wade. He makes great use of his players.

 

[CWR]

Thats makes alot of sense, however I think when the pressure come from the end and the qb still has a clean pocket to step into then your DTs are hurting you. Conversely when all the pressure come from the middle then the qb will roll out to the edges where you DEs are killing you. So I would think no, you need every lineman to have the ability to get penetration and generate pressure. Or at least threaten enough to keep qbs off balance.

 

[Alexander]

I guess this is a question asked when you have none and you swear that the 3-4 is useless.

 

[AbeBeta]

I see your point. However. Von Miller won the superbowl basically single handedly

How many guys like that are in the league? How many are paired with an older version of them?

 

[JBS]

With all the rules favored towards more scoring...defense as a whole is obsolete

 

[cowboys1981]

Pass rushers will always be a must.

 

[CCBoy]

Defensive ends?

I really fail to observe a downward movement in contracts given to the position...at all. They are among the higher contracts in the NFL, with the exception of quarterbacks.

They still get paid strongly for their skills. To reach similar contract demands, the Cowboys' defensive ends have to start improving upon productions.

 

[CF74]

If they don't apply much pressure they better at least be able to contain the perimeter.

 

[LocimusPrime]

I'd trade t Crawford and McClain for Khalil Mack and Collins and Thorton for Ezikiel Ansah and feel reeeeeeeal good about my D

 

[ScipioCowboy]

They get you off the field on third and long.

The point is valid, though. When most NFL passing offenses are predicated on getting the ball out in less than three seconds, the effectiveness of a strong pass rush is somewhat nullified.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Quick drops have been a staple since the WCO became a thing. That is the staple of the offense. Coughlin and the Giants used to do do it and people would scream about Almost Anthony when it was Alan Ball and co covering. When Newman and Jenkins played well in 2009 we had a top defense.

It means that coverage is important underneath because you need the QB to go through options or try and fit throws into coverage. it's why corners have made the big bucks for quite some time because they handle the underneath coverage outside off the snap.

People like to go partisan and pretend pass rush is all that matters but there is a symbiotic relationship between it and coverage. Always has been.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I guess this is a question asked when you have none and you swear that the 3-4 is useless.

Do you ever have anything meaningful to add to the discussion?