Are receivers getting open?

ufcrules1

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Wait I though Romo had more authority in the offensive play calling this season?? If things aren't developing due to a conservative play selection doesn't he have the ability to change to something more aggressive?

Im confused. I really think this offense is a product of Romo's confidence after the meltdown picks last season, especially against Washington on that last drive. Everybody and their mom called for Romo to make better decisions and I think that's exactly what he is trying to do. Less aggressive, higher percentage, less risky choices by ROMO not CALLAHAN.

Oh bravo friend... you nailed it.
 

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How do you know he's not? I believe one of our better series was when Romo was in no huddle at the end of the 4th qtr. He was able to get us down to the 6 yard line, and then SD called timeout. This gave Garrett & Co. the opportunity to call the play, and look what happened. Total speculation, but if SD doesnt call TO, Romo never calls a play short of the endzone. JMO

Right.. so you're saying Romo didn't get involved until the 4th quarter and when he did it was a great drive and then he left it up to JG and CO and they blew it. Come on son... What about the game against the Chiefs when Romo audibled OUT of the pass to Dez(in one on one coverage) and instead threw a screen pass SHORT OF THE ENDZONE? I know you love Romo but at some point you have to be honest with yourself. :)
 

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The offense isn't designed for YAC, it's almost designed to limit it in fact. Sure the drops hurt and can't be ignored, but the scheme is not putting them in position to take advantage of, and maximize on, their abilities. The players can never reach their potential with this system, and that is a colossal failure of coaching.

If the ball hits em in the hands and they drop it they were in a position to make a play and they failed. Witten one and one on a small safety down the seam and he can't make the grab. Jimmy Graham fights off tight double coverage to catch a td pass. Dez w key drops. Williams has made mistake after costly mistake out there. Harris has muffed some.

Everyone talks about all this talent we have and why aren't we better. Thats why. If they're so talented they make those plays. Besides Dez name one great catch this season. Name one great run after the catch with tackles broken.

I'm not saying we have perfect coaching. We surely don't. But players have to make plays and certainly not make elementary mistakes like drops and fumbles. Our receivers aren't playing well enough. Our qb, RB, and Oline are
 

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If the ball hits em in the hands and they drop it they were in a position to make a play and they failed. Witten one and one on a small safety down the seam and he can't make the grab. Jimmy Graham fights off tight double coverage to catch a td pass. Dez w key drops. Williams has made mistake after costly mistake out there. Harris has muffed some.

Everyone talks about all this talent we have and why aren't we better. Thats why. If they're so talented they make those plays. Besides Dez name one great catch this season. Name one great run after the catch with tackles broken.

I'm not saying we have perfect coaching. We surely don't. But players have to make plays and certainly not make elementary mistakes like drops and fumbles. Our receivers aren't playing well enough. Our qb, RB, and Oline are

These silly mental mistakes are exactly the kind of thing that people went after Wade for despite him having little to do with the offense, I thought Mr. Ivy League history degree would come in and fix this.
 

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These silly mental mistakes are exactly the kind of thing that people went after Wade for despite him having little to do with the offense, I thought Mr. Ivy League history degree would come in and fix this.

I don't see Garrett get after anyone. He should have lit into Harris in the 1st quarter for dropping an easy first down pass when Romo was running for his life. His silence makes it seem ok and so we dropped passes all game. After the game its oh well we didn't make enough plays Rivers is a good qb blah blah
 

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Every third down drop means three less chances for us and three more chances for the opponent
 

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Every third down drop means three less chances for us and three more chances for the opponent

Yup and we had a ton of them in the game. Besides our horrific defense that was the story of the offense. Not game plan, Romo etc. Our receivers stunk up the joint
 

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Yelling at Harris for dropping a pass isn't going to do anything.

Do you think Harris doesn't know it's not ok to drop a pass?

Yelling at people is not leadership
 

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Yup. Everyone wants to talk about scheme and romo blah blah. But our receivers stunk in the SD game. Numerous key game changing dropped passes from all of them including Dez and Witten. They make those plays and it's a way different ballgame.

Romo, Murray and the Oline have played well this year. The pass catchers have been the inconsistent weak link, both in drops and poor YAC. Sometimes players gotta make plays to win - regardless of coaching we could have won both games we lost if they did

Have to wonder about Dooley and Wes Phillips though. Tight ends should be a strength here and we are not even trying to use them.

Same with Dunbar. What other team has weapons and does not even attempt to use them?
 

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It seems like they're not spread out, they all run the same depth and/or area.
 

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Have to wonder about Dooley and Wes Phillips though. Tight ends should be a strength here and we are not even trying to use them.

Same with Dunbar. What other team has weapons and does not even attempt to use them?

Yeah all we heard was Dunbar was gonna be our Sproles Lite. I get that he fumbled but where is he? Where are the plays that use his speed?

I really think our offense has been predicated on we finally have a great defense so just don't screw things up. News flash we don't have a very good defense and our offense is still making key mistakes
 

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Really really glad this stuff got posted. This not only shows you what experts talk about when referencing Romo and his ability but it also shows just how good he is extending and play in making something out of nothing.

Two major things I noticed wer
A: the fact that the pocket continuously collapsed especially on plays where primary targets or mismatches were deep. One of the first GIF's shows Romo on a play-action, roll out and he has the matchup of Terrence Williams one on one with a corner deep but by the time he completes the play action and the rollout there's too much pressure to try and complete that deep of a throw.

B: This offense just is not the same without the threat of Miles Austin. It never will be. This offense is predicated on having at least a second receiver who can instill fear in a defensive coordinator. We've seen it for how many years now? Without that second wide receiver as a threat who are we going to beat you with? This is a huge part of why I think we are seeing so much Terrence Williams so early. He can become that guy wether Miles is in the game or not. But he has to step up. Are going to have growing pains with players like him but we have to continue to go his way or run the risk of him losing all of his confidence and basically becoming a waste here in Dallas. Same thing can be said for Escobar we know there's going to be rookie mistakes made but if we lose confidence in him as a option then he loses confidence in himself and even worse the other team knows the balls not going that way.

All in all I see an interior offense of line that still needs a little more time to gel and a rookie wide receiver he has the talent but also needs the time to come into his own. Only time will tell. If Miles stays hurt then you are going to see a lot of what we saw in San Diego until Terrence Williams has time to grow & The offense of line has time to gel as a unit.

I have no doubts that the outcome of that game or at least the action in that game would have been completely different with a healthy Miles Austin. Also I have no doubt that that game was an opportunity for Williams to get more action experience and opportunities to grow as a player.

Now the flipside to all of this is installing wrinkles in the offense. Things that we will see on tape play out a certain way and hopefully Garrett Callahan and Romo can come together and create plays off of other plays.

I again go back to the play action rollout. If you look at that play I see huge opportunity for a screen on the backside of the field. now that is a dangerous play but it is one that could also be dangerous to the defense. It causes the D line and And linebackers to think and choose what are they going to do versus playing with their natural instincts.

Sorry for the long read but I really hope people see this film opens a lot of doors as to where we are as a football team. This is just my take on some of what we saw in San Diego. And with this being a copycat league you better believe teams are going to look at that down and say this is how we stop Dallas. The good thing about it is there's no Miles Austin on that film
 

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Getting OT, but Dunbar was always vastly overrated. Sproles was a stud in a top conference. He led the nation in rushing, finished 5th in the Heisman voting. Lance Dunbar is an undrafted FA from little North Texas. He might chip in here and there, but odds are heavily against him being some huge contributor. It's nothing against him, it's that people were expecting way too much of him.
 

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I'm pretty sure I saw many of those plays from the gifs in 1989's Tecmo Bowl. :) The sad part is that I'm being serious. :D
 

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Right.. so you're saying Romo didn't get involved until the 4th quarter and when he did it was a great drive and then he left it up to JG and CO and they blew it. Come on son... What about the game against the Chiefs when Romo audibled OUT of the pass to Dez(in one on one coverage) and instead threw a screen pass SHORT OF THE ENDZONE? I know you love Romo but at some point you have to be honest with yourself. :)
Where is your source that he audibled out of the fade to Dez? I never once heard that it was a designed fade to Dez and he audibled out of it. I do agree that Dez should've got the ball with that coverage. Those are two different scenarious, the clock was working against us in SD, and the other happened on the first possession of the 3rd qtr.
 

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Until the last pass of the 1st half. I might finish later, there are definitely better things I could be doing:



This post deserved it's own thread. Wow. Can't believe how sad and unimaginative our O is.
 

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It's clear SD did not respect the deep ball, They are sitting 10 yards back and never bothering to even turn,. They have to go deep 3 or 4 times a game or the coverage will never loosen up. Yes the routes could be more imaginative but they need to take some shots and that alone will help.
 

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This post deserved it's own thread. Wow. Can't believe how sad and unimaginative our O is.

What plays should they call so that the receivers don't continually drop passes that are perfectly thrown?
 

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Seeing a lot of people talk about all these dropped passes. According to PFF, dallas has the 4th LEAST amount it dropped passes in the nfl.
 

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Seeing a lot of people talk about all these dropped passes. According to PFF, dallas has the 4th LEAST amount it dropped passes in the nfl.

In the SD game, though, the 3rd down drops killed three drives. That's why it's an issue.

I really like the content in this thread, but I'm not sure I'm on the same page with some of you as to where we should have been going with those footballs. I love Dez one-on-one as much or more than the next guy, but when he's wide out and the CBs in great position and has inside leverage, that's not necessarily a ball I want to see thrown. We also shouldn't be surprised to see receivers looking back on a blitz adjustment. At the end of the day, Tony was 27/37 for 244 and 2 TDs. We were doing somethings right, against what looked to me like really good coverage from a weak set of defensive skill players. Maybe the issue really isn't the offensive play design.

I know how much work it is, and I'm not asking for it, but if hairic had posted our coverages instead of our routes, I suspect you'd see something hardly recognizable when you compare it to what we were throwing into. Actually, that's more than a suspicion, because it was obvious watching the game live.
 
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